Playoffs: Don't Tell Me The Odds

[KingsHockey24]

No way we’ve reached the depths of seeing a player drop an instagram story of him eating ice cream in Beverly Hills 3 hours before puck drop of a road game. That’s the highlight of Blake’s tenure IMO.

Was this Kovy? How did I forget this.

I think this was the season Johnny Brodzinski would stream Fortnite on Twitch after games.

 

[Nasti]

you are definitely new to hockey

teams still manage to always add when they are confident about their roster

why would Tampa add every following year from a cup win?

so you are saying that every team in the top 16 added, except LA because only LA didn't want to mess with their chemistry?

it doesn't go both ways.... and to think with your top 4 D out, having a confidence vote with 6 inexperienced Ds confirms that Blake should not be GM for another second

furthermore, thinking LONG TERM... LOLLL we've been doing this long term thing for half a decade now, also
why didn't they trade away their UFAs then? your statement doesn't make sense, and it's ok

If you call over 30 years of watching ”new”, then sure I’m new. And “LOLLL” at comparing the current Kings to the two time defending champions.

 

[DoktorJeep]

Was this Kovy? How did I forget this.

I think this was the season Johnny Brodzinski would stream Fortnite on Twitch after games.

Thanks for the money Rob is what the text translates to.

 

[Little Psycho]

I would do the same if they used me to screen the goalie on powerplays.

 

[kilowatt]

imagine if they would have brought someone big in and missed.

I think the “wasted” part was that if we’re missing the playoffs, we could/should have potentially sold Brown, Athanasiou, and Quick, and possibly even some others.

 

[BringTheReign]

I think the “wasted” part was that if we’re missing the playoffs, we could/should have potentially sold Brown, Athanasiou, and Quick, and possibly even some others.

We’ve sold plenty of vets. Brown and Quick should be Kings for life, and no one was trading AA for anything worthwhile with all his injuries this season.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

No way we’ve reached the depths of seeing a player drop an instagram story of him eating ice cream in Beverly Hills 3 hours before puck drop of a road game. That’s the highlight of Blake’s tenure IMO.

Felt like the Kovy signing was an unnecessary move that the FO made to show up the previous General Manager. He clearly didn’t fit their philosophy or style.

 

[bland]

This is so true. And if the team misses the playoffs the organization will be in disaster recovery mode in the summer.

Beholding to who?

There is no media that cares. The same fans will show up regardless.

 

[bland]

Felt like the Kovy signing was an unnecessary move that the FO made to show up the previous General Manager. He clearly didn’t fit their philosophy or style.

To show up the guy who wanted no part of Kovalchuk? Lieweke was the one who wanted a big splash, not Lombardi.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

To show up the guy who wanted no part of Kovalchuk? Lieweke was the one who wanted a big splash, not Lombardi.

Well that’s the point, DL felt like Kovy wasn't a fit.

Current brass thought Kovy was the answer despite keeping mostly the same philosophy and style. They didn’t know what to do with him, it was an odd fit.

 

[Kudelski37]

you are definitely new to hockey

teams still manage to always add when they are confident about their roster

why would Tampa add every following year from a cup win?

so you are saying that every team in the top 16 added, except LA because only LA didn't want to mess with their chemistry?

it doesn't go both ways.... and to think with your top 4 D out, having a confidence vote with 6 inexperienced Ds confirms that Blake should not be GM for another second

furthermore, thinking LONG TERM... LOLLL we've been doing this long term thing for half a decade now, also
why didn't they trade away their UFAs then? your statement doesn't make sense, and it's ok

The Kings traded for a veteran defenseman at the deadline, Stretcher. Why are you arguing as if they didn't?

 

[Rumpelstiltskin]

I think the “wasted” part was that if we’re missing the playoffs, we could/should have potentially sold Brown, Athanasiou, and Quick, and possibly even some others.

Yeah, when I saw the outlandish returns on some of the initial trades in February, I began to suspect that it might behoove the Kings long-term to be "targeted" sellers. Now, depending upon who would've been traded away, that would've almost certainly resulted in missing the playoffs this season; but, now that that's a distinct possibility anyway, c'est la vie.

P.S. The "Player X should be a King for life" principle has never resonated with me, but especially not with Brown, given that his own friggin' team tried to foist him off in the expansion draft 5 years ago...

 

[KingPuckChoo]

If you call over 30 years of watching ”new”, then sure I’m new. And “LOLLL” at comparing the current Kings to the two time defending champions.

you spoke about VOTE OF CONFIDENCE, and that it goes both ways

to which i state, that even the most CONFIDENT teams STILL ADD

so it's absurd to think that Bowlby looked at the current roster of inexperienced players, and said you know what, i trust you guys will figure things out

do you get it? do you understand why Tampa was used as an example now?

but pick any of the 16 teams and youll see, that only BLAKE was extremely confident with his inexperienced roster as every other GM was active at either making their roster better or at least rewarding the team with additions

therefore as per YOU and YOUR analysis, one can only conclude that Bowlby needs a mental evaluation

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

you spoke about VOTE OF CONFIDENCE, and that it goes both ways

to which i state, that even the most CONFIDENT teams STILL ADD

so it's absurd to think that Bowlby looked at the current roster of inexperienced players, and said you know what, i trust you guys will figure things out

do you get it? do you understand why Tampa was used as an example now?

but pick any of the 16 teams and youll see, that only BLAKE was extremely confident with his inexperienced roster as every other GM was active at either making their roster better or at least rewarding the team with additions

therefore as per YOU and YOUR analysis, one can only conclude that Bowlby needs a mental evaluation

That's horsehit....A. Blake picked up Strecher.......so let's use that as a bench mark,

Top 16 teams, only 3 of the top 16 teams made any deals of significant, Giroux, Fleury/Middleton, and Hagel,

EVERY OTHER DEAL.......is pretty much the same premise as the Strecher deal that Blake did....

 

[All The Kings Men]

you spoke about VOTE OF CONFIDENCE, and that it goes both ways

to which i state, that even the most CONFIDENT teams STILL ADD

so it's absurd to think that Bowlby looked at the current roster of inexperienced players, and said you know what, i trust you guys will figure things out

do you get it? do you understand why Tampa was used as an example now?

but pick any of the 16 teams and youll see, that only BLAKE was extremely confident with his inexperienced roster as every other GM was active at either making their roster better or at least rewarding the team with additions

therefore as per YOU and YOUR analysis, one can only conclude that Bowlby needs a mental evaluation

Things are so much more complicated than all of that.

 

[Nasti]

you spoke about VOTE OF CONFIDENCE, and that it goes both ways

to which i state, that even the most CONFIDENT teams STILL ADD

so it's absurd to think that Bowlby looked at the current roster of inexperienced players, and said you know what, i trust you guys will figure things out

do you get it? do you understand why Tampa was used as an example now?

but pick any of the 16 teams and youll see, that only BLAKE was extremely confident with his inexperienced roster as every other GM was active at either making their roster better or at least rewarding the team with additions

therefore as per YOU and YOUR analysis, one can only conclude that Bowlby needs a mental evaluation

First of all, relax.

Second, this is oversimplification as others have pointed out. Very few teams make big moves at the deadline and the biggest moves are made by the top contenders. Those acquisitions also come at a big cost at this time of year. Blake picked up Stetcher to help the D. What other moves would you, Mr Expert, have made? How many assets would you be willing to move for a first round exit? You probably praised the Sopel/Parrish trade.

Do you get it?

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

Obviously more complicated than this but

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I'm not sure we can count on anything even better than 3-3 at this point, so flip a coin and drink some alka seltzer this week.

 

[kilowatt]

Vegas' remaining schedule:

@ CGY
@ EDM
NJD
WSH
SJS
@ DAL
@ CHI
@ STL

If I'm being optimistic about LA's chances, then Vegas might finish the season 5-3. They would have to lose two against any of Calgary, Edmonton, Dallas, St. Louis, and Washington, and one against any of New Jersey, San Jose, and Chicago.

LA's remaining schedule:

CBJ
@ ANA
CHI
ANA
@ SEA
@ VAN

All six of these games are winnable, but who knows what Kings team we'll see.

 

[kilowatt]

Obviously more complicated than this but

So we no longer control our own destiny. Vegas has to lose two of their next eight games if we want to make the playoffs.

 

[Bandit]

So we no longer control our own destiny. Vegas has to lose two of their next eight games if we want to make the playoffs.

 

[Herby]

I was thinking the same thing about the third line, it’ll be exposed in the playoffs. If we even make it.

I think people wanted it so badly to work that they are in complete denial about just how bad they have been as a whole since being put together about 15 games ago.

And it's not just blaming the younger players, it's been a huge issue all year, but right now it might be at the lowest point it's been all year.

Since the Nashville game where everyone was optimistic that they were turning a corner they have 1 goal at 5 on 5 and have given up 7. With as many 1 goal games as the Kings have played, an average third line the last 15 games certainly would have added at least 1-2 points to the Kings in the standings.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I think people wanted it so badly to work that they are in complete denial about just how bad they have been as a whole since being put together about 15 games ago.

And it's not just blaming the younger players, it's been a huge issue all year, but right now it might be at the lowest point it's been all year.

Since the Nashville game where everyone was optimistic that they were turning a corner they have 1 goal at 5 on 5 and have given up 7. With as many 1 goal games as the Kings have played, an average third line the last 15 games certainly would have added at least 1-2 points to the Kings in the standings.

In that same time period

The Kopitar line has been on for 8 goals for, and given up 13. almost same net effect, -5.
The Danault line has been on for 6, given up 12. same net effect. -6.

If you haven't noticed, NO ONE is getting results. No forwards, no defensemen, no goalies. But sure, everyone's in denial about the 3rd line.

Grundstrom, Kaliyev, and Spence have been our best players. Great for them, gross for us.

 

[Bandit]

In that same time period

The Kopitar line has been on for 8 goals for, and given up 13. almost same net effect, -5.
The Danault line has been on for 6, given up 12. same net effect. -6.

If you haven't noticed, NO ONE is getting results. No forwards, no defensemen, no goalies. But sure, everyone's in denial about the 3rd line.

Grundstrom, Kaliyev, and Spence have been our best players. Great for them, gross for us.

And Grundstrom gets scratched every time he scores to boot...

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

So we no longer control our own destiny. Vegas has to lose two of their next eight games if we want to make the playoffs.

Are you saying we could end the season with 100 points and still miss the playoffs? Why does that not sound logical to me?