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Rumor: Planning Ahead: 2019 Off-Season Part 2

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BigKing said:
Kings are not competing so AEG isn't going to get excited about retaining salary for three-to-four years in exchange for a mid-round pick. The Kings won't be doing anything with the cap space they get for the un-retained portion of whatever contract they are dealing anyways.

How much money is AEG paying--or has paid--to players/coaches/executives that weren't even in the organization during the last five years or so? Then they drop $6MM a year on a dude and get rewarded with easily one of the worst seasons in Kings history.

All they can hope for is that these older dudes rebound so they can be traded or they are actually valuable. The plan is to rebuild but they can't burn it down because too much of the broken foundation is immovable. Due to this, we're just going to be riding it out for now.
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If Dustin Brown has another good season approaching the trade deadline, I could see him being of real value to a contender/pretender like Tampa Bay in the playoffs. The Lightning are not physical enough. If the Kings retained $2.5M on Brown's deal, I think the Kings could come away from that deal with a prospect and a 1st/2nd round pick.
 
DrewforNorris said:
I was thinking Colombus but not entirely sure what kind of return to expect at this point due to age and injuries. I would hate to lose him for nothing if Seattle plucks him in their draft by exposing him. Should be interesting either way.
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By the time Seattle gets here, Quick will be older than Fleury was when Vegas took him. It doesn't look like the Kings will have too much talent exposed for Seattle, but if they want a 35 year old Quick, more power to them. Like with any of the vets with term, they will likely not come out ahead on any deal.
 
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KINGS17 said:
If Dustin Brown has another good season approaching the trade deadline, I could see him being of real value to a contender/pretender like Tampa Bay in the playoffs. The Lightning are not physical enough. If the Kings retained $2.5M on Brown's deal, I think the Kings could come away from that deal with a prospect and a 1st/2nd round pick.
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Sure but, again, AEG has to pay for a guy to not be here in exchange for a prospect and a late 1st or late 2nd. I don't think they want to do that since it seems they should have been all over this 1st round pick for Marleau.

The other thing with Brown is that they don't want to trade him anyways: especially if he is still producing. With all of the youth expected to be coming up, I think they just prefer to keep him.

I don't think this is Brown's last contract with the Kings if things are looking pretty good in three seasons and he still has some gas in the tank. Both of those outcomes are questionable, however.
 
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KINGS17 said:
If Dustin Brown has another good season approaching the trade deadline, I could see him being of real value to a contender/pretender like Tampa Bay in the playoffs. The Lightning are not physical enough. If the Kings retained $2.5M on Brown's deal, I think the Kings could come away from that deal with a prospect and a 1st/2nd round pick.
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I dont think a late 1st or 2nd AND having to retain salary is appealing enough to tarnish Brown's legacy with the Kings.
 
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KINGS17 said:
If Dustin Brown has another good season approaching the trade deadline, I could see him being of real value to a contender/pretender like Tampa Bay in the playoffs. The Lightning are not physical enough. If the Kings retained $2.5M on Brown's deal, I think the Kings could come away from that deal with a prospect and a 1st/2nd round pick.
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That's still 2 additional seasons TB would have to deal with what will be a 36/37 year old Brown. They can probably acquire a rental that does the hitting Brown does.

And 2 assets coming back? This is faux leader Brown, and 35+ years old. They'd be lucky to get a prospect or a pick(probably not a great one either way), without also throwing in an asset.
 
Dustin Brown just put up 51 points on a total crap team.

Yes the clock is ticking, but a deadline trade for him is considering now over later, and assuming normal play, would return a damn good pair of assets, particularly if retention were involved.

Imagine him playing slightly reduced minutes in the middle six on a contender instead of top line heavy usage on the PK.

I don't want him traded anyway so it's moot, but still.
 
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Reaper45 said:
I dont think a late 1st or 2nd AND having to retain salary is appealing enough to tarnish Brown's legacy with the Kings.
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How would that tarnish his legacy? We won't/don't blame him for losing the C, and we've already kind of let him slide for those 4 down years after the last 2. Or just 17-18, whatever. We've been through the last 5 years, and we get what the team is now. There's really nothing that could happen(on the ice, considering this team) that could do anything to Brown's image at this point. He was the first King to touch the Cup. In 10 or 15 years, whatever it would be, when they're retiring his number, there won't be anything except the images with the Cup.
 
KingsFan7824 said:
How would that tarnish his legacy? We won't/don't blame him for losing the C, and we've already kind of let him slide for those 4 down years after the last 2. Or just 17-18, whatever. We've been through the last 5 years, and we get what the team is now. There's really nothing that could happen(on the ice, considering this team) that could do anything to Brown's image at this point. He was the first King to touch the Cup. In 10 or 15 years, whatever it would be, when they're retiring his number, there won't be anything except the images with the Cup.
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I think there is a gentleman's agreement that he isn't going anywhere. I highly doubt he would want to leave to chase a Cup at this point when he already has two to his name. He has 14 kids or something so I don't think he would want to uproot them. No team is going to blow the door down in a deal for him right now either due to his contract. Would they trade him in the last year of is deal and pull a Keith Tkachuk to Atlanta move where Brown just comes back as a UFA? Maybe, but we've got two more seasons until then.

He's the new Dave Taylor except he has already passed him in games played and wore the C for two Cup runs. Hockey history is littered with players toiling through one more season on some weird team for one last paycheck but I don't see that with Brown.
 
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BigKing said:
I think there is a gentleman's agreement that he isn't going anywhere. I highly doubt he would want to leave to chase a Cup at this point when he already has two to his name. He has 14 kids or something so I don't think he would want to uproot them. No team is going to blow the door down in a deal for him right now either due to his contract. Would they trade him in the last year of is deal and pull a Keith Tkachuk to Atlanta move where Brown just comes back as a UFA? Maybe, but we've got two more seasons until then.

He's the new Dave Taylor except he has already passed him in games played and wore the C for two Cup runs. Hockey history is littered with players toiling through one more season on some weird team for one last paycheck but I don't see that with Brown.
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There probably is some type of gentlemen's agreement. I would like to see Brown chase one more cup. I think he could be a difference maker in the playoffs for the right team.
 
KINGS17 said:
There probably is some type of gentlemen's agreement. I would like to see Brown chase one more cup. I think he could be a difference maker in the playoffs for the right team.
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Totally get it but I don't think he cares about that v. staying here in LA for family reasons. Think he'll be pretty happy if he gets to play alongside Kopitar for three more seasons.
 
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Frk will be one of the better players on the Reign and someone you can call up if there are injuries who won't be totally out of place. But that's about it.
 


No clue what Gusev is looking for, but he could be a nice addition if the price is right, especially if the team looks to move away from Toffoli and the Kings need someone to fill his spot in the top six. Gusev has Panarin like abilities, but more of a passer than shooter.
 
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BigKing said:
Totally get it but I don't think he cares about that v. staying here in LA for family reasons. Think he'll be pretty happy if he gets to play alongside Kopitar for three more seasons.
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I don't think you are putting enough weight on WHY these guys play the game they do....the vast majority of players with talent that NEVER make it to the NHL level, are because they don't have it in them to compete, sacrifice, and do what it takes to make it, once the players that do make it there, all they want to do is win, (the majority of them) ready any ex player's book, Hrudey, Gretzky, Gilmour, Hull, Dryden, Orr, go on down the list, the one thing in common, is how much they wanted to win the cup, each and every season they played..... so if Brown gets down to thinking it's his last year or two, last chance, you can absolutely be sure, he will do what he needs to do win another cup.
 
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GoldenBearHockey said:
I don't think you are putting enough weight on WHY these guys play the game they do....the vast majority of players with talent that NEVER make it to the NHL level, are because they don't have it in them to compete, sacrifice, and do what it takes to make it, once the players that do make it there, all they want to do is win, (the majority of them) ready any ex player's book, Hrudey, Gretzky, Gilmour, Hull, Dryden, Orr, go on down the list, the one thing in common, is how much they wanted to win the cup, each and every season they played..... so if Brown gets down to thinking it's his last year or two, last chance, you can absolutely be sure, he will do what he needs to do win another cup.
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Did any of those players have a family that included 78909876466545677544 kids?
 
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johnjm22 said:
For the millionth time. Quick doesn't have any trade value.

We’re talking about statistically the worst starting goaltender in the NHL last year, who turns 34 this season, has had injuries in 2 of the last 3 seasons, and is signed for 4 more years at 5.8M.

About the only thing Jonathan Quick is going to get you in a trade is Milan Lucic. Otherwise you'd have to give up a 1st (or equivalent prospect, possibly more) to get someone to take on his contract.

Only the thing the Kings can do is wait and hope he rebounds.
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You mean the TEAM rebounds. Those bums left him out to dry, including the fraud of a coach, more times last year than his entire career. It was pathetic watching forwards lolly gagging on the backcheck, trying to prevent another oddman rush.
 
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Joakim Ryan eh, are we ready for a strawberry blonde on the team? Who was the last one Jeff Cowan? (or am i missing someone obvious)
 
Reaper45 said:
I dont think a late 1st or 2nd AND having to retain salary is appealing enough to tarnish Brown's legacy with the Kings.
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I don't think Brown's image as a King can ever be tarnished. The second he retires plans for the retiring of his number begin.
 
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Frk signing also points to why Leipsic wasn’t qualified. Kings likely wanted him to sign a 2-way deal, but he got a 1-way from Washington. Frk is a good option to be a healthy scratch forward. No reason for guys like Luff to be healthy scratches. Keep prospects in Ontario until older players are moved at the deadline.
 
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