Rumor: Planning Ahead: 2019 Off-Season Part 2

[KINGS17]

Actually in the present circumstances there is no reason but there are risks:
1. You are selling him at his lowest value right now
2. You run the risk of ruining Campbell or Peterson behind a potentially bad team if you refuse to improve the team in any other areas.

I know you’re willing to take the 2nd risk but I’m not sure about the first.

What would the Kings be saving Campbell or Petersen for, their 30th and 27th birthdays?

 

[tomd]

What would the Kings be saving Campbell or Petersen for, their 30th and 27th birthdays?

Well, if you actually wanted your still largely untested goalies of the future to be in the league on their 30th and 27th birthdays you'd probably try to avoid putting the equivalent of the 1974 Washington Capitals in front of them next year. Nothing like getting peppered with 40 shots per night to beat the confidence right out of them.

 

[DryIslandBartender]

Trade Quick to the Sabres for a prospect prospects/2020 pick. I don’t think we need any more draft picks for this year.

 

[KINGS17]

Well, if you actually wanted your still largely untested goalies of the future to be in the league on their 30th and 27th birthdays you'd probably try to avoid putting the equivalent of the 1974 Washington Capitals in front of them next year. Nothing like getting peppered with 40 shots per night to beat the confidence right out of them.

The point is neither Campbell or Petersen may be the #1 goalie when the Kings are contenders again. It's going to be trial by fire for whoever is in goal. I am really not worried about the Kings ruining a goalie who is 25 years of age or older. If it was a 20-year old, then yeah get a veteran in here if Quick is traded.

 

[SFKingshomer]

Quick to Columbus for Wennberg makes sense on paper.

 

[Butch 19]

The point is neither Campbell or Petersen may be the #1 goalie when the Kings are contenders again. It's going to be trial by fire for whoever is in goal.

The Kings are not going to win with or without Quick. And his value is going down every day.

Throw Campbell and Petersen out there and see which one sticks. That's how Quick beat out Garon and LOLBarbara. They have 2 shots - use them now.

 

[KINGS17]

Quick to Columbus for Wennberg makes sense on paper.

Wennberg is a 24-year old defenseman that has had a solid start to his career, and has been in the NHL for five full seasons. I seriously doubt Columbus would give him up in a deal for Quick.

 

[Martyros]

Wennberg is a 24-year old defenseman that has had a solid start to his career, and has been in the NHL for five full seasons. I seriously doubt Columbus would give him up in a deal for Quick.

when the hell did Wennberg become a defenseman?

 

[tomd]

Wennberg is a 24-year old defenseman that has had a solid start to his career, and has been in the NHL for five full seasons. I seriously doubt Columbus would give him up in a deal for Quick.

Wennberg's stats makes it look like he is a defenseman but he's a center...and probably too old to make the cut for you.

 

[SFKingshomer]

Wennberg is a 24-year old defenseman that has had a solid start to his career, and has been in the NHL for five full seasons. I seriously doubt Columbus would give him up in a deal for Quick.

He's a center and had 1 good season and now has been seen as a disappointment. You must be thinking Werenski...

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

The buyout window is officially open, and the first casualty is Andrew MacDonald of the Flyers.

 

[The Tikkanen]

The UPS Store in Manhattan Beach sold out of moving boxes.

 

[johnjm22]

Trade Quick to the Sabres for a prospect prospects/2020 pick. I don’t think we need any more draft picks for this year.

Quick to Columbus for Wennberg makes sense on paper.

Quick doesn't have any trade value.

You'd have to give up an asset to get someone to take on his contract.

That might change if he has a great bounce back year, but as of now he has negative value.

 

[tomd]

Quick doesn't have any trade value.

You'd have to give up an asset to get someone to take on his contract.

That might change if he has a great bounce back year, but as of now he has negative value.

I tend to agree with you but actually a Wennberg trade would make some sense for both teams. Quick has 4 years left on his contract and so does Wennberg ($4.9m AAV). Wennberg could be the new 2c and will be 25 years-old when the season starts so he fits into the right age group for being competitive again in 2 years. Both players are semi-reclamation projects. Both players fill holes on the other team. Kings may have to retain a bit but it's not totally insane to imagine it..

 

[KingsFan7824]

The Kings are not going to win with or without Quick. And his value is going down every day.

Throw Campbell and Petersen out there and see which one sticks. That's how Quick beat out Garon and LOLBarbara. They have 2 shots - use them now.

That's the thing though; they don't really have time to just see who sticks. Petersen will be 25 in Oct, is already an RFA, and has already left a team for what he considered a better opportunity. Campbell is a UFA next year, hasn't made any money in his career, and will be 28 in Jan. Quick was 22/23 years old in 08-09, when he first played more games than any goalie on the roster. He was still signed for 2 full years when the 08-09 season started. When he played 72 for the first time, he was still on his ELC, and younger than Petersen will be next year.

Quick couldn't have had his worst season at a worse time. Petersen couldn't be a not really young young goalie up for a contract at a worse time. Trading Campbell, assuming another team might see him as a potential #1, might be selling high, because he's so damn cheap for one more year. Since Quick has a bunch of term left, and it would be nice to get Petersen under contract for a couple years, Campbell probably couldn't be a future UFA at a worse time.

Other than trading Quick for a solid young asset, which isn't going to happen, there's no clear road for the Kings in net.

 

[johnjm22]

I tend to agree with you but actually a Wennberg trade would make some sense for both teams. Quick has 4 years left on his contract and so does Wennberg ($4.9m AAV). Wennberg could be the new 2c and will be 25 years-old when the season starts so he fits into the right age group for being competitive again in 2 years. Both players are semi-reclamation projects. Both players fill holes on the other team. Kings may have to retain a bit but it's not totally insane to imagine it..

But why would Columbus do that?

Quick was statistically the worst starting goalie in the NHL last year. There's a difference between a 25 year old reclamation project and a 34 year old one.

 

[tomd]

But why would Columbus do that?

Quick was statistically the worst starting goalie in the NHL last year. There's a difference between a 25 year old reclamation project and a 34 year old one.

If Bobrovsky leaves via free agency (which seems likely) they are very thin in goal. Any trade of that nature would be predicated on Bobrovsky leaving.

 

[KingsFan7824]

But why would Columbus do that?

Quick was statistically the worst starting goalie in the NHL last year. There's a difference between a 25 year old reclamation project and a 34 year old one.

Because the meter is reading only 3.6 roentgen.

 

[johnjm22]

If Bobrovsky leaves via free agency (which seems likely) they are very thin in goal. Any trade of that nature would be predicated on Bobrovsky leaving.

Right but adding last year's worst starter doesn't fix that problem.

If you were a Columbus fan, I highly doubt you wouldn't be in favor of trading for Quick.

 

[tomd]

Right but adding last year's worst starter doesn't fix that problem.

If you were a Columbus fan, I highly doubt you wouldn't be in favor of trading for Quick.

You could be right but if I was a Columbus fan I would very likely be in favor of trading Wennberg and his salary. Like I said, it is a change of scenery trade for both players. Not advocating for it but just pointing out that there is some logic to it.

 

[Martyros]

Phaneuf is probably next.

 

[DoktorJeep]

If philly is shopping for goalies, maybe the other rumors are true as well and they’ve soured on Nolan Patrick. He’s an rfa and it’s up in the air what his next deal is, but he’s not due a big payday based on his numbers.

Maybe Philly would move Patrick and one of their third round picks for Quick and Carter, with 25% retained salary each.

Quick would provide a backup to Hart and Carter would end up where he started his ludicrous contract, so he shouldn’t have a great reason to suddenly retire.

Kings would get younger and save money, plus add a potential 2c who is still young.

 

[Reaper45]

If philly is shopping for goalies, maybe the other rumors are true as well and they’ve soured on Nolan Patrick. He’s an rfa and it’s up in the air what his next deal is, but he’s not due a big payday based on his numbers.

Maybe Philly would move Patrick and one of their third round picks for Quick and Carter, with 25% retained salary each.

Quick would provide a backup to Hart and Carter would end up where he started his ludicrous contract, so he shouldn’t have a great reason to suddenly retire.

Kings would get younger and save money, plus add a potential 2c who is still young.

Ha, from your lips to the gods ears.

 

[kovacro]

If philly is shopping for goalies, maybe the other rumors are true as well and they’ve soured on Nolan Patrick. He’s an rfa and it’s up in the air what his next deal is, but he’s not due a big payday based on his numbers.

Maybe Philly would move Patrick and one of their third round picks for Quick and Carter, with 25% retained salary each.

Quick would provide a backup to Hart and Carter would end up where he started his ludicrous contract, so he shouldn’t have a great reason to suddenly retire.

Kings would get younger and save money, plus add a potential 2c who is still young.

Don’t see the Flyers paying Quick that much to be Hart’s backup. Make no mistake, this is going be Hart’s gig going forward.

They’ll look for a cheap veteran backup. Think someone along the lines of a Khudobin, as an example.

 

[The Tikkanen]

If philly is shopping for goalies, maybe the other rumors are true as well and they’ve soured on Nolan Patrick. He’s an rfa and it’s up in the air what his next deal is, but he’s not due a big payday based on his numbers.

Maybe Philly would move Patrick and one of their third round picks for Quick and Carter, with 25% retained salary each.

Quick would provide a backup to Hart and Carter would end up where he started his ludicrous contract, so he shouldn’t have a great reason to suddenly retire.

Kings would get younger and save money, plus add a potential 2c who is still young.

If the Kings can get anything for Carter I'd be surprised. Injury, age and appeared to be totally disinterested in busting his butt for the betterment of the team. He like many King players will have to have bounce back seasons in order to have any sort of trade value. Blake is hoping for those bounce backs and then trade these guys at the deadline IMO.