Reaper45
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They haven't signed Leipsic yet. My guess is they let him walk. Or maybe a guy like Lewis or Clifford gets moved at the draft?
Rumor: Planning Ahead: 2019 Off-Season Part 2
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KingCanadain1976
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my guess is Carter Dion and Quick will all disappear by training camp I can't see Clifford coming off career year and still loved by management. Lewis had a injury filled year and he was our teams unsung hero for the last 4 maybe 5 seasons Hell they named the award after him this year when Clifford won it. I highly doubt he ll get traded at the draft Deadline sure draft nah
Steve Zissou
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2018-19 Season in Review: What’s next for Jonathan Quick?
Interesting article comparing Quick to Roy and his trade to Colorado.
Interesting article comparing Quick to Roy and his trade to Colorado.
Raccoon Jesus
We were right there
Great on Sodergran, awful on Imoo.
Sodergran was the most impressive dude on the ice at that development camp, hope to see him again this year. He's just so imposing, nothing real flashy,
BigKing
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I love Quick, but what would Roy's numbers have been if he stayed on a garbage team as opposed to moving to a juggernaut? It is also hard to ignore the fact that contract numbers didn't matter during that period.
Quick would be the toughest player to see moved, from an emotional standpoint, other than Brown. I feel the author of this piece is writing this based off of emotion. Doesn't mean Quick can't still be good but, again, how much of that is going to matter the next two seasons?
Also, if Quick still thinks he can play when his contract is up and the Kings don't offer him one, we can all be witness to the sight of him wearing another team's sweater regardless.
Honestly, if the Kings could get something for him and send him somewhere where he gets to battle for a contender, that would probably be preferable to seeing him get shelled every night with Forbort and Walker as his #3 and #4 defensemen.
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Quick is the heart soul spine balls and shaft of this franchise. If/when he moves, that will truly mark a different era in Kings hockey.
I’m in a strange spot. I know these guys are winners. I know the Kings are transitioning. I want to see what they can do under TMac. Willie D. was a horrific hire but these players struggled with Stevens too. I still think a few guys need to have good years to increase their depleted trade values. The deadline is where shrewd moves need to be made.
BigKing
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It's hard because, even as Martinez said, the winning was five years ago now. The players struggled with Stevens to start this season but Kopitar and Brown had banner years for him the season prior. Things like that lead me to pin nearly all of it on the players and not Stevens, Willie or even Sutter. The latter had to go but it wasn't because he's a bad coach: the players weren't playing under him the way they needed to anymore.
Kopitar has been a shit season/bounce-back to silence the critics guy since his first trash season in 2015. I fully expect him to be better next season since he seems to only step up when he is doubted. Then he reminds everyone that he is great and then goes back to being Perimetar.
I'm not really worried about 11 and 8 for next season. 77 is a major, major problem though and is on the hot seat. 73 isn't a major problem because he has one year left. My hope is that he has a good year and can be flipped at the TDL. I'm not too worried about 32 for next season but where this franchise is at and how much term he has left needs to be considered. There just probably isn't much of a market for him.
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I generally catch 3 to 4 a year and bring by family when when i do see the games. We have seen TT waste 2 years of prime line 2 and PP time. If anyone thinks that’s good hockey to watch then i’d say have at it. For me i’ve seen enough and i don’t feel like going thru that frustration any more. The guys shooting % was horrendous. We need to cut our losses, TT is what you would call a Sunk Cost. Just get rid of him for whatever, maybe use with another pick as a move up of a pick. He’s not going to payoff anything more over time. Also the foolish attempt to take this sunk cost and get more from it later when “he gets better” is completely screwing up time young guys might be able to use for them to find another level.
RocketKing
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I would say that for upgrades in draft in the 1st round or through a bigger deal for a young player we should be thinking of Iafallo, Kempe, Carter, TT, Lewis, Clifford, Amadio, and Campbell. It depends on the circumstances of who we’re dealing with in terms of their wanting a cash controlled player or more veteran leadership but i think there could be good opportunities there. All these guys can’t play so we need to use what we can to move up. Wagner, Grundstrom, JAD, and Kupari shouldn’t be available IMO.
Buffalo could be a team for a 1st round move up and so could a few others.
Obviously if the guys like Kempe, or AI don’t get considered unless there a big deal but i still think they could be dangled for the right return.
KingsFan7824
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I don't know if any of those players are good enough to add to 22 to get up too much higher.
Start with Buffalo. They're not giving you the 7th pick for anyone listed. They have no NHL depth, but they can get players like that for much cheaper than the 7th pick. Same with Edmonton at 8. Anaheim is in much the same situation as the Kings, and of course they wouldn't trade the 9th pick to the Kings. Vancouver, similar to Buffalo and Edmonton. I guess Philly is open to trading 11, but it's not going to be for the players listed. Minnesota, Florida, Arizona, Montreal, Colorado, Vegas, Dallas, some of those teams don't need forwards, some can get depth cheaper than giving up their pick. Would Colorado even be worth trading with, to move up 6 spots?
Even if you gave a team both Iafallo, and Kempe, plus 22, who are we talking about? Iafallo should not be on a top line, probably not a 2nd either. Kempe hasn't done much to show he's better than even 22, much less 29 where he was drafted.
Carter is a league wide question mark. Toffoli isn't even looked at as Lucic was in 2015. The myth of Lucic was he was a hard hitting giant. What's Toffoli got? A sniper that doesn't really score that many goals.
I think they'll have to just live with 22. I'd be fine if the Kings were willing to take either Lucic or Eriksson, at 100%, for the 8th or 10th pick. I think that's probably the only way to get another, or a higher, 1st this year. The Kings don't have much value. What little they do have, is maybe a little bit of extra cap space, and their youth. If Kupari isn't available, if the 5th is't available, there's not a ton left on the organizational roster.
Steve Zissou
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f*** Milan Lucic. We're not taking on that albatross of a contract.
He had his time in the sun, let him rot away in the depths of Edmonton.
He had his time in the sun, let him rot away in the depths of Edmonton.
if it came with Bouchard and got us out of Dion I would do it.
Well that atrocity of a season is finally over... let’s get the speculation going! Draft in a little over a week. Free Agency in a few weeks...
Ziggy Stardust
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Ziggy Stardust
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Consider it getting rid of garbage that stinks. It's expensive, but garbage nonetheless.
redcard
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Opens up a roster spot for another "young" player like Roy, Ladue, Walker, Brickley.
instead of buying out dion I would rather LA trade him for Alzner. Alzner can be put on waivers and play in the AHL for a little less of a cap hit than a buy out would cost LA (for one of the years) more for two but be one year shorter than a Dion buyout.
You create a roster spot. You give Phaneuf the opportunity to try to extend his career on another team. You get significant cap relief in year 1 which you can use to make a Marleau type trade where you get picks/prospects for taking on an expiring contract.
IceColdOx
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Here's a decent primer of what should happen.
Los Angeles Kings Offseason Outlook - Last Word on Hockey
Los Angeles Kings Offseason Outlook - Last Word on Hockey
Phaneuf might be a great guy and loved in the locker room but he epitomizes the "fat and happy" losing culture that has infected the Kings. He is absolutely a liability in all three zones every time he steps on the ice. Buying him out is addition by subtraction. I doubt there is any trade market for him whatsoever.
redcard
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You can create a roster spot by parking Dion in the press box, if he doesn't like not playing he can waive his NMC for Ontario.
