Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary Cap Thread: Clever Thread Title Needed

[CrosbyMalkin]

One of Tanev Zucker or petts will be in Seattle. Trade Zar for pick pre expansion

I wouldn't trade anyone pre expansion. Just let them make the pick and move on. We are only losing one player and no use trying to protect more than we can. Those deals almost always go worse. Protect Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Rust, Kapanen, McCann, and Blueger as the forwards and Dumoulin, Letang, and one of Matheson/Pettersson. They will take one of Tanev, Zucker, Pettersson, and maybe even Carter if they want a veteran leader. Whoever they pick we still will have plenty of fire power coming back and adjust from who they take.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

I wouldn't trade anyone pre expansion. Just let them make the pick and move on. We are only losing one player and no use trying to protect more than we can. Those deals almost always go worse. Protect Crosby, Malkin, Guentzel, Rust, Kapanen, McCann, and Blueger as the forwards and Dumoulin, Letang, and one of Matheson/Pettersson. They will take one of Tanev, Zucker, Pettersson, and maybe even Carter if they want a veteran leader. Whoever they pick we still will have plenty of fire power coming back and adjust from who they take.

If we trade Zar we forced them to take a bad contract in a cap frozen season
I am on record saying that I will explore trading rust at the draft and having a heart to heart with Letang. 5 million a year next 4 to finish out here Letang one team tons of friends or do you want to get paid

 

[JTG]

I am curious to see how Burke and Hextall are planning on maneuvering this offseason. I could see them selling guys off for futures. Hextall really doesn't seem like he's down with the "all in" JR theme.

 

[CrosbyMalkin]

If we trade Zar we forced them to take a bad contract in a cap frozen season
I am on record saying that I will explore trading rust at the draft and having a heart to heart with Letang. 5 million a year next 4 to finish out here Letang one team tons of friends or do you want to get paid

You can be on record all you want because you literally have nothing to do with the organization. All pass on all your ideas you presented. Have a nice day.

Actually that last one wasn't that bad. Worth a shot but I doubt someone playing at such a high level like Letang first for that this summer but worth a shot. I guess I would try and get Rust, Letang, and Malkin for bargain extensions a year early. Doesn't hurt to ask. As for expansion if they want to take ZAR then I will jump for joy and have a ton of talent to choose from on making the team. Will have plenty of good options if we want to trade someone. Pettersson will not be hard to trade if we wanted to do so. All see how Zucker does in the playoffs before deciding on him this summer. Definitely not protecting him but might not dump him for nothing either.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I'd trade ZAR because frankly I don't think he'll be worth the cost to re-sign him after the year.

Let Zucker be the expansion draft pick and try to move ZAR's rights after the expansion draft.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

I am curious to see how Burke and Hextall are planning on maneuvering this offseason. I could see them selling guys off for futures. Hextall really doesn't seem like he's down with the "all in" JR theme.

Especially when the purge is going to take place after next season. Letang Malkin Rust Kap Mccan Teddy are all up and the cap will be frozen.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

If a team offers an overpayment for Marino, do you do it?

 

[The Old Master]

If a team offers an overpayment for Marino, do you do it?

how much overpay?

 

[Randy Butternubs]

how much overpay?

Not sure. I guess a better question is:

What type of deal would you need to trade Marino?

 

[Jules Winnfield]

If a team offers an overpayment for Marino, do you do it?

Like a lumber yard of wood overpayment?

 

[Peat]

If a team offers an overpayment for Marino, do you do it?

Very tempted if the overpayment is in high end ELCs. I mean, if you can get Ceci signed and get a good 2nd pairing next year from him and Matheson again, how much role does Marino have here anyway? Obviously there's a few tripping points with that sentence but it's not like we're talking moving a piece we have no replacement for.

 

[wheelz87]

I am curious to see how Burke and Hextall are planning on maneuvering this offseason. I could see them selling guys off for futures. Hextall really doesn't seem like he's down with the "all in" JR theme.

I mean. Look at what we’ve been though this year. And we still won the division. I mean which guys should we be looking to sell off? I don’t understand the need to blow up this team. We’re good.. Unless you’re simply regarding maybe a Pettersson type. Possibly Zucker.

 

[Goalie_Bob]

If a team offers an overpayment for Marino, do you do it?

Yes. But I would like to see a proposal as to what people consider a over payment.

 

[Gurglesons]

If a team offers an overpayment for Marino, do you do it?

Not really sure why a team overpays for him, but yes.

I can’t think of one physical attribute that sticks out in his game as being elite outside of his IQ which is possibly a one year thing at this point.

aka. Exactly what we saw with Olli.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

I mean. Look at what we’ve been though this year. And we still won the division. I mean which guys should we be looking to sell off? I don’t understand the need to blow up this team. We’re good.. Unless you’re simply regarding maybe a Pettersson type. Possibly Zucker.

Well are you paying Rust 7 million a year or would you rather take a 1st and prospect then watch him walk for free.
You have Kap Teddy McCan all who will get raises to 5 million a season
You have Letang and Malkin entering the last year of contracts.

 

[Tender Rip]

Not really sure why a team overpays for him, but yes.

I can’t think of one physical attribute that sticks out in his game as being elite outside of his IQ which is possibly a one year thing at this point.

He is not an elite skater now?

 

[Gurglesons]

He is not an elite skater now?

Was he ever?

 

[66-30-33]

I am curious to see how Burke and Hextall are planning on maneuvering this offseason. I could see them selling guys off for futures. Hextall really doesn't seem like he's down with the "all in" JR theme.

I think they both want Pens to get bigger, so more adding pieces like the Carter type (minus the age). They wont take us away from our game and change us to be more of a hitting team, but add some size with skill/speed. Maybe add a few pieces that adds a physical element.

 

[Headshot77]

Seattle can only take:

Petterson - A bland middle pairing D
Zucker - bye Felicia
ZAR - a 4th liner
Carter - 1 year from retiring
DeSmith - An average backup goalie

Literally none of that will break us. Infact I bet the Pens get better relative to other teams given what other teams will lose.

 

[KIRK]

Seattle can only take:

Petterson - A bland middle pairing D
Zucker - bye Felicia
ZAR - a 4th liner
Carter - 1 year from retiring
DeSmith - An average backup goalie

Literally none of that will break us. Infact I bet the Pens get better relative to other teams given what other teams will lose.

Tanev won't be protected.

 

[Tender Rip]

Was he ever?

Well, if elite signifies too much for you, I’ll say his skating ability certainly “sticks out” as way beyond average in this league.

Further, he has barely more than 100 games in this league. You ponder trading him to re-sign Ceci because in his prime year ever he has done as well as Marino did as a rookie.

I like Ceci a lot and would be happy to keep him, but you don’t even consider this asset management play on Marino before he has a season where he could really bring a haul. Eventually, with his abilities, he will. Next time Letang misses a real # of games for instance.

 

[Gurglesons]

Well, if elite signifies too much for you, I’ll say his skating ability certainly “sticks out” as way beyond average in this league.

Further, he has barely more than 100 games in this league. You ponder trading him to re-sign Ceci because in his prime year ever he has done as well as Marino did as a rookie.

I like Ceci a lot and would be happy to keep him, but you don’t even consider this asset management play on Marino before he has a season where he could really bring a haul. Eventually, with his abilities, he will. Next time Letang misses a real # of games for instance.

I think the hypothetical was if a team over pays for him. I’m thinking a blue chip and a higher 1st. Yes I move him.

Friedman seems to be a solid enough bottom pairing D and that’d allow us to likely sign Ceci who comes in cheaper and with less term.

Even in Marino’s amazing season last year I saw nothing that would lend itself to him replacing Letang.

 

[Peat]

Tbh, the better answer to Butternubs' question is arguably "Who wouldn't you trade for an overpay". Sentimentality aside, it's a pretty short list consisting solely of guys we probably couldn't replace without overpaying ourselves, and for me it's about Sid, Geno, maybe Tanger and Dumo, maaaybe Jarry and Jake. That's it. This is a deep team, please overpay for our stuff.

 

[wheelz87]

Well are you paying Rust 7 million a year or would you rather take a 1st and prospect then watch him walk for free.
You have Kap Teddy McCan all who will get raises to 5 million a season
You have Letang and Malkin entering the last year of contracts.

Well Rusty, as well as everyone else sans Blue, has an additional year on their contracts. I don’t think Blue will break the bank. I’d hope Geno/Letang can take a discount to stay. Petts is really the only one I’d shop. And possibly Zuck. I know we all want to move on from guys and get assets.. but sometimes you gotta keep a good team together as long as you can.

 

[Tender Rip]

Tbh, the better answer to Butternubs' question is arguably "Who wouldn't you trade for an overpay". Sentimentality aside, it's a pretty short list.

Of course, I agree. I’d go further and say I’d trade anyone on the roster if the return made it seem meaningless not to. Including Sid/Geno.
Then the question always becomes “what return would that then be for X?”

If I baulk at the thought of trading Marino (or Rust) it is then due to thinking that if I were most any other team, I would not give up enough that as a Penguins fan, I’d consider it enough of a home run.