Confirmed with Link: [PIT/OTT/VGK] Brassard/Dunn/Lindberg/3rd for Gustavsson/Cole/1st/3rd for Reaves/4th | VGK ret. 40%

[Jaded-Fan]

But the Kessel trade was a damn steal. Phil's NMC made us the only option for Toronto to move him. It's not a fair measuring stick because they were forced to sell him for pennies on the dollar.


He's not a selke candidate, but he's a good defensive player.

But, but, but the Gretzky trade!!

McDavid will be traded to Vegas for Reaves.

Isn't that how it works? Any lopsided trade becomes the new precedent for justifying all future silly proposals.

 

[HandshakeLine]

It's finally happening! (The board is dying!)

 

[HandshakeLine]

This is true, but even if you factor in Reaves, the value is we gave up is close to what we gave up for Kessel. And Kessel is twice the player Brassard is.

I guess I was just expecting the Pens to give up less for a 50 point 2nd line center. Not to mention that, from what I read, he isn't all that great in his own end.

I mean, Sid is twice the player that Ovechkin is and Ovechkin is literally worth more. Sometimes value is a pretty arbitrary construct that doesn't always work out cleanly.

 

[Pengu]

Just have to tip my hat of to JR. I stopped doubting his genious after the Scuderi and Perron deals so I was confident he as going to pull something of.
Just waiting for that depth defenceman and I think JR is done.
Biggest enemy of this group of players now are themselves.

 

[Pengu]

I mean, Sid is twice the player that Ovechkin is and Ovechkin is literally worth more. Sometimes value is a pretty arbitrary construct that doesn't always work out cleanly.

Not to mention that the Leafs were desperate to get rid of Kessel and Kessel was desperate to leave.

 

[harmonica]

This is true, but even if you factor in Reaves, the value is we gave up is close to what we gave up for Kessel. And Kessel is twice the player Brassard is.

I guess I was just expecting the Pens to give up less for a 50 point 2nd line center. Not to mention that, from what I read, he isn't all that great in his own end.

While it may seem like an overpayment it needs to be put in to context. This is the exact sort of move that may help us earn the first dynasty status in the cap era. This sort of trade can be made when you have a lot of assets that are moving in to and filling former holes. We are in a position now that allows us to do this. Our window closes within 3-5 years, so prospects drafted now will most likely never be part of this Penguins team.

 

[Tom Hanks]

I’m just going to throw this out there

 

[Clare2904]

Not seen it mentioned anywhere but will Derick wear #19 here?

 

[Dick Sledge]

Not seen it mentioned anywhere but will Derick wear #19 here?

Yes

 

[KIRK]

What do you mean by "he was in the country"? I presume then that Brassard's visa from his NYR days has expired.

Pheneuf was in the US on a travel visa playing for the Sens when he was traded (during the Pens game). He was going to be traveling with them on an approved visa. So, LA just needed to amend an already issued visa.

 

[orby]

Yes

Hopefully it doesn't carry the Bennett Curse

 

[KIRK]

It's finally happening! (The board is dying!)

And to think you were here to shovel the dirt.

 

[KIRK]

Hopefully it doesn't carry the Bennett Curse

Yeah, that number needs to be taken out of circulation.

 

[Dick Sledge]

Hopefully it doesn't carry the Bennett Curse

Poor Beau.

He's probably hold up somewhere in a cast or shoulder dislocated etc.

 

[HandshakeLine]

And to think you were here to shovel the dirt.

I'm more of a "pissing on the freshly laid sod" kinda guy.

 

[KIRK]

I'm more of a "pissing on the freshly laid sod" kinda guy.

 

[Coastal Kev]

There's always one out there. That's for sure. Read the thread for crying out loud before just spewing negativity for negativity sake. You should be proving everyone else wrong, not 99.9% proving your thoughts incorrect.

I don't get your point. How many times has group-think here on HF boards proven out to be wrong. I remember everyone laughing at Vegas and the roster they were building...oops. I remember these boards calling Shero the GOAT after the Iginla trade.

The simple fact of someone questioning the Brassard trade as a whole isn't someone simply trying to be "that guy".

On the surface, it looks like a very good trade. But I haven't studied Brassard throughout his career, more like I have noticed him. I reserve my final judgement until once I focus on him for several games.

 

[Empoleon8771]

The more I read about Brassard, the more excited I get. I thought he was a mostly an offensive center with good playmaking talents before he came in, but I'm also seeing now that he's good defensively, very physical and also has a very good shot. He's going to be a fan favorite immediately, you can just tell with him.

 

[Ogrezilla]

The more I read about Brassard, the more excited I get. I thought he was a mostly an offensive center with good playmaking talents before he came in, but I'm also seeing now that he's good defensively, very physical and also has a very good shot. He's going to be a fan favorite immediately, you can just tell with him.

and a playoff beast up to this point in his career.

 

[DanielPlainview]

Where does this leave the Pens defensively? Any rumors for another trade?

 

[dogthateats]

I like that Brassard rips slapshots from in close and on breakaways.

 

[Penguin Suited Up]

Any chance Brassard makes the lineup tonight? I know it’s quick turnaround, but we’ve seen it before.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Where does this leave the Pens defensively? Any rumors for another trade?

I don't think specific rumors, just that there is almost certainly going to be another trade for a D.

Any chance Brassard makes the lineup tonight? I know it’s quick turnaround, but we’ve seen it before.

Nah. Tuesday's not even a guarantee.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Any chance Brassard makes the lineup tonight? I know it’s quick turnaround, but we’ve seen it before.

No, the Penguins are hoping he plays on Tuesday.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

I don't get your point. How many times has group-think here on HF boards proven out to be wrong. I remember everyone laughing at Vegas and the roster they were building...oops. I remember these boards calling Shero the GOAT after the Iginla trade.

The simple fact of someone questioning the Brassard trade as a whole isn't someone simply trying to be "that guy".

On the surface, it looks like a very good trade. But I haven't studied Brassard throughout his career, more like I have noticed him. I reserve my final judgement until once I focus on him for several games.

It didn't include Sprong, what's left to evaluate?