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[Scandale du Jour]

Has anybody heard anything regarding Brassard being in the lineup tonight versus Florida?

He has to go through the imigration process so I would say highly unlikely.

Tuesday seems like the more logical target.

 

[ColePens]

Has anybody heard anything regarding Brassard being in the lineup tonight versus Florida?

I already mentioned about 5 times throughout the threads. Immigration paperwork needs submitted. Multiple examples of this taking time. There is ZERO percent change paperwork is filed and good by tonight.

No way. We will be lucky if he's ready for the next one. He also needs time to meet the coaches, go over the system, practice, etc.

 

[KIRK]

I already mentioned about 5 times throughout the threads. Immigration paperwork needs submitted. Multiple examples of this taking time. There is ZERO percent change paperwork is filed and good by tonight.

No way. We will be lucky if he's ready for the next one. He also needs time to meet the coaches, go over the system, practice, etc.

Phaneuf got sorted in under 48 hours though.

Acquired on a Tuesday. Figure the paperwork was submitted on Wednesday. Good to go by end of business on Thursday for LA's game against us.

NOW, nobody is processing paperwork on the weekend. SO, figure this gets started Monday morning.

IF the Phaneuf timeline holds, then Brassard should be good to go for a game the following evening.

 

[ColePens]

^^ Remember that was during the week. I would imagine, like you said, processing starts Monday morning. I'm sure immigration doesn't give a shit that Brassard needs to play hockey. It's the weekend.

 

[KIRK]

^^ Remember that was during the week. I would imagine, like you said, processing starts Monday morning. I'm sure immigration doesn't give a **** that Brassard needs to play hockey. It's the weekend.

And Phaneuf was traded on a Tuesday night. Paperwork didn't start until Wednesday morning. It was approved for him to play the next evening.

Brassard was traded on a Friday evening. Paperwork won't start until Monday morning. IF the Phaneuf timeline holds, it will be approved for him to play the next evening.

Not a guarantee, because each case is different. BUT, in terms of the time frames, this is EXACTLY the same as when Phaneuf was traded . . . the paperwork needs to be approved within 34 hours.

 

[RottenScoundrel]

Thx guys.

 

[wej20]

Or it could be no one wants to fight a guy that they know that they'll lose to. Reaves' 6 fights with the Pens actually put him on a pace to eclipse his previous two seasons (6 last year and 4 the year before).

Pretty much no one left for him to fight. How many teams have a legit heavyweight these days? I count Wilson, Kassian, McLeod, Lucic, Chara, Simmonds and Haley (not a heavyweight but psycho enough to fight anyone).

 

[harmonica]

The worst part about this trade is that now everyone on HFboards thinks they are a rainman version of GMJR posting obscure three way trades between teams.

 

[Empoleon8771]

 

[Ogrezilla]

so I get tickets to a game or two every year from work. I got tickets to the Tuesday game vs the Devils. But now I will be out of town for work, so I can't go. Part of me (the jerk part ) hopes Brassard doesn't debut with us that night just because I'd be extra annoyed I can't be there

 

[wej20]

Got to think it gets sorted by the Boston game on Thursday.

 

[Asuna]

good time to make his debut against the broons

 

[ziggyjoe212]

Am I the only one who thinks the Pens may have overpaid for Brassard? If we reverse the Reaves trade we get:

1st 2017, 1st 2018, 3rd 2019, 4th 2018 (VAN), Gustavsson, Sundquist, Cole for 3rd 2018, 2nd 2017 (STL), Lindberg, Dunn and 40% Brassard.

In other words, it's two 1sts, a 3rd, a 4th, Gustavsson, Cole for a 2nd, 3rd, and Brassard.

I like Brassard and excited about our depth, but that is simply TOO much for a 50 point center that's not even known for his defense or PKing.

I am sincerely hoping someone proves me wrong/convinces me otherwise.

 

[ColePens]

There's always one out there. That's for sure. Read the thread for crying out loud before just spewing negativity for negativity sake. You should be proving everyone else wrong, not 99.9% proving your thoughts incorrect.

 

[KIRK]

@ColePens, acknowledged in another thread: One difference between Phaneuf and Brassard I forgot. Phaneuf had an approved visa and was in the country. Just needed to get it amended. Brassard is out of the country. New application.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Am I the only one who thinks the Pens may have overpaid for Brassard? If we reverse the Reaves trade we get:

1st 2017, 1st 2018, 3rd 2019, 4th 2018 (VAN), Gustavsson, Sundquist, Cole for 3rd 2018, 2nd 2017 (STL), Lindberg, Dunn and 40% Brassard.

In other words, it's two 1sts, a 3rd, a 4th, Gustavsson, Cole for a 2nd, 3rd, and Brassard.

no it's not, because you can't undo the Reaves trade. We traded Reaves for Brassard, not a 1st. I mean, we did trade a 1st, but you know what I mean

 

[Clare2904]

@ColePens, acknowledged in another thread: One difference between Phaneuf and Brassard I forgot. Phaneuf had an approved visa and was in the country. Just needed to get it amended. Brassard is out of the country. New application.

What do you mean by "he was in the country"? I presume then that Brassard's visa from his NYR days has expired.

 

[HandshakeLine]

Phaneuf got sorted in under 48 hours though.

Acquired on a Tuesday. Figure the paperwork was submitted on Wednesday. Good to go by end of business on Thursday for LA's game against us.

NOW, nobody is processing paperwork on the weekend. SO, figure this gets started Monday morning.

IF the Phaneuf timeline holds, then Brassard should be good to go for a game the following evening.

48 hours is about right if you have some good, expensive lawyers and connections.

 

[HandshakeLine]

What do you mean by "he was in the country"? I presume then that Brassard's visa from his NYR days has expired.

His work visa would be through his employer anyway, so when he changes clubs, he'd need a new one.

Don't get me started on the stupidity of immigration laws.

 

[888 98 twins]

Am I the only one who thinks the Pens may have overpaid for Brassard? If we reverse the Reaves trade we get:

1st 2017, 1st 2018, 3rd 2019, 4th 2018 (VAN), Gustavsson, Sundquist, Cole for 3rd 2018, 2nd 2017 (STL), Lindberg, Dunn and 40% Brassard.

In other words, it's two 1sts, a 3rd, a 4th, Gustavsson, Cole for a 2nd, 3rd, and Brassard.

I like Brassard and excited about our depth, but that is simply TOO much for a 50 point center that's not even known for his defense or PKing.

I am sincerely hoping someone proves me wrong/convinces me otherwise.

It's not.

Boom, convinced.

 

[Empoleon8771]

They're trying to have him play on Tuesday. Can he even practice without a visa?

 

[ziggyjoe212]

no it's not, because you can't undo the Reaves trade. We traded Reaves for Brassard, not a 1st. I mean, we did trade a 1st, but you know what I mean

This is true, but even if you factor in Reaves, the value is we gave up is close to what we gave up for Kessel. And Kessel is twice the player Brassard is.

I guess I was just expecting the Pens to give up less for a 50 point 2nd line center. Not to mention that, from what I read, he isn't all that great in his own end.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

As long as he makes it for the playoffs I am fine.

 

[Ogrezilla]

This is true, but even if you factor in Reaves, the value is we gave up is close to what we gave up for Kessel. And Kessel is twice the player Brassard is.

But the Kessel trade was a damn steal. Phil's NMC made us the only option for Toronto to move him. It's not a fair measuring stick because they were forced to sell him for pennies on the dollar.

I guess I was just expecting the Pens to give up less for a 50 point 2nd line center. Not to mention that, from what I read, he isn't all that great in his own end.

He's not a selke candidate, but he's a good defensive player.

 

[Killswitch7187]

It's still surreal the Penguins got Brassard.

I was mostly lurking around the time of the "Penguins are interested in Pageau" rumors - and the general census was how cool it'd be if the Penguins could get Brassard instead.

And it happened. Not to mention, he now has a cheaper caphit than Pageau, too. (Albeit, slightly.)