Confirmed with Link: [PIT/MTL] Jeff Petry and Ryan Poehling for Mike Matheson and 4th PIT 2023

[CHarlie]

Dont let the door slam you in the ass on the way out!!!!!

 

[Kimota]

...and Subban was the better of the two for the first half of that trade; it was Weber coming on near his end that made it a wash at best...Suzuki (and Tatar) FELL into his lap; he wanted Glass and Vegas said no and offered Suzy & Tatar (as a cap dump) instead...Bargain Bin was a horrid, horrid GM...period...

Weber made much more of a difference on his team than Subban on his. Subban never was better than the third best D in Nashville. And that's because he had already decline before leaving Montreal. He was not the player he used to be. Also Weber made more of a difference in our Stanley Cup run last year than Subban was when Nashville went there. Weber bascially WAS the Habs(he and Price).

As far as Suzuki, most of the time as GM, it's about luck. Look at the Nords in the Lindros sweepstakes they really wanted the trade with the Rangers more and the judge ruled in favor of the Flyers and the Nords basically got a king's ransom with Forsberg, etc....They were lucky but they still had picked all the players in the Flyers trade. Bergevin picked Suzuki even though he wasn't his first choice.

As far as MB being a "horrid GM" that's a childish discarding analysis. He was a good GM in my opinion. I say this all the time but to me he was the plummer of GM. It felt like he was good at patching and solving problems but he never had a real plan.

 

[Kimota]

Top 6 forward into top 6 forward and top pairing D into top pairing D.

The bar is low.

I mean he took a volatile guy on a decline that was problematic to the room and turned that into one of the greatest leaders the Habs ever had. Then turned a no character skilled guy into a far younger number one center with a ton of character. Not too shabby.

 

[KFlint]

Remember when our future was bonding during summer, 3 years later, another disappointment. It seems like it happens over and over again…

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Weber made much more of a difference on his team than Subban on his. Subban never was better than the third best D in Nashville. And that's because he had already declined before leaving Montreal. He was not the player he used to be. Also Weber made more of a difference in our Stanley Cup run last year than Subban was when Nashville went there. Weber bascially WAS the Habs(he and Price).

As far as Suzuki, most of the time as GM, it's about luck. Look at the Nords in the Lindros sweepstakes they really wanted the trade with the Rangers more and the judge ruled in favor of the Flyers and the Nords basically got a king's ransom with Forsberg, etc....They were lucky but they still had picked all the players in the Flyers trade. Bergevin picked Suzuki even though he wasn't his first choice.

As far as MB being a "horrid GM" that's a childish discarding analysis. He was a good GM in my opinion. I say this all the time but to me he was the plummer of GM. It felt like he was good at pitching and solving problems but he never had a real plan.

...just to remind you, Subban finished 3rd in Norris voting, as Nashville's Other Guy, in his 2nd year there...you are ignoring the problems while embellishing the solutions Bergevin provided us...he left us in Cap Hell...he never prioritized anything but the immediate to the detriment of the future...and even half of his "solutions" were guys like Ott, who were at the END and were actual detriments on the ice to the team...you can call it childish or whatever adjective you want; facts are facts...Bargain Bin was not a good GM; he completely wasted the Prime of a future HHoFer, imo, & the best goaltender we've had since Roy...he patchworked the roster constantly instead of actually fixing problems...his first act as GM was to hire probably the absolute worst coach for the job and then just ignored the problems Meathead Michel caused until it was faaar too late...I could go on and on, but why bother really; we all watched it happen in real time...if you still want to reminisce about "the good old days with Bergevin at the helm", have at it...just don't be shocked or offended when your views on that disaster are challenged with the facts...

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Weber made much more of a difference on his team than Subban on his. Subban never was better than the third best D in Nashville. And that's because he had already decline before leaving Montreal. He was not the player he used to be. Also Weber made more of a difference in our Stanley Cup run last year than Subban was when Nashville went there. Weber bascially WAS the Habs(he and Price).

As far as Suzuki, most of the time as GM, it's about luck. Look at the Nords in the Lindros sweepstakes they really wanted the trade with the Rangers more and the judge ruled in favor of the Flyers and the Nords basically got a king's ransom with Forsberg, etc....They were lucky but they still had picked all the players in the Flyers trade. Bergevin picked Suzuki even though he wasn't his first choice.

As far as MB being a "horrid GM" that's a childish discarding analysis. He was a good GM in my opinion. I say this all the time but to me he was the plummer of GM. It felt like he was good at patching and solving problems but he never had a real plan.

A good GM HAS a plan.

 

[ArtPeur]

Remember when our future was bonding during summer, 3 years later, another disappointment. It seems like it happens over and over again…

I can barely recognize them aside from Poehling, who are they?

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

As a side note - it wasn’t only a Julie Petry issue it seems:

- Romanov’s wife (Sofia Krasovskaya) left Quebec shortly after Xmas for Florida, didn’t want the hassle associated w mandates & never returned

- Poehling’s girlfriend (Jae Borgen) also headed back home to North Dakota same timeframe for same issues

- Xavier Ouellet’s wife (Liz Ann) headed back home to Michigan for same reasons including scathing instagram post on Canadian mandates

All 3-players have moved on from Habs org to US locales…

 

[KFlint]

I can barely recognize them aside from Poehling, who are they?

Brook, Fleury and Ylonen

 

[jrom]

Hughes not wanting retention doesn't mean it was the right think to not want retention. Besides, the whole concept of not wanting retention is actually to be able to use that money for better usage based on our current situation.

If you retain on a player with term, it reduces your possibilities at the TDL since you can only retain for a max of 3 players.

Already this year we want to move: Drouin, Byron, Allen, Dadonov. If we had retained on Petry only 2 of those players could be reasonably moved at TDL.

 

[Fainting Couch]

- Romanov’s wife (Sofia Krasovskaya) left Quebec shortly after Xmas for Florida, didn’t want the hassle associated w mandates & never returned

Not true.

 

[Kimota]

...just to remind you, Subban finished 3rd in Norris voting, as Nashville's Other Guy, in his 2nd year there...you are ignoring the problems while embellishing the solutions Bergevin provided us...he left us in Cap Hell...he never prioritized anything but the immediate to the detriment of the future...and even half of his "solutions" were guys like Ott, who were at the END and were actual detriments on the ice to the team...you can call it childish or whatever adjective you want; facts are facts...Bargain Bin was not a good GM; he completely wasted the Prime of a future HHoFer, imo, & the best goaltender we've had since Roy...he patchworked the roster constantly instead of actually fixing problems...his first act as GM was to hire probably the absolute worst coach for the job and then just ignored the problems Meathead Michel caused until it was faaar too late...I could go on and on, but why bother really; we all watched it happen in real time...if you still want to reminisce about "the good old days with Bergevin at the helm", have at it...just don't be shocked or offended when your views on that disaster are challenged with the facts...

I actually thought hiring Therrien was a good move at the time when it happened. In my mind bringing in an old school coach like that to bring in some structure and order what was the team needed. But the idea was, he should never be the guy when the Habs would be ready to compete. But MB's sentimentality amputated his work and he became too attached to Michou.

It was the same issue with Price. Again he was so in love with the guy that he refused to think about the contingencies when he was injured and cost us a season. Personally I would never have given him his big contract. Cause the team was going nowhere even with Price. It was time to plan ahead, trade him and finally get decent forwards for a change.

 

[ArtPeur]

Brook, Fleury and Ylonen

I could have guessed Ylonen but he looks like a 16yo teen

 

[The Great Weal]

...and Subban was the better of the two for the first half of that trade; it was Weber coming on near his end that made it a wash at best...Suzuki (and Tatar) FELL into his lap; he wanted Glass and Vegas said no and offered Suzy & Tatar (as a cap dump) instead...Bargain Bin was a horrid, horrid GM...period...

Bergevin sucked donkey balls but discrediting him for the Suzuki trade is just unfair. Cody Glass was an unbelievable prospect, everyone valued him more than Suzuki. He still nailed it by thinking highly of Suzuki because Brannstrom/Hague looked just as good as Suzuki if not better. Even the best GMs get "lucky" with their trades. You can nitpick pretty much every trade if that was the case.

The Subban/Weber trade is a wash, both players were an integral part for their respective teams SCF run. The trade itself wasn't the issue, it was the lack of vision. We wanted to trade Subban for futures but decided to do the complete opposite when Dubois surprisingly went at #3 to the Jackets. There was a legit chance we came out with Draisaitl and Tkachuk that year.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Bergevin sucked donkey balls but discrediting him for the Suzuki trade is just unfair. Cody Glass was an unbelievable prospect, everyone valued him more than Suzuki. He still nailed it by thinking highly of Suzuki because Brannstrom/Hague looked just as good as Suzuki if not better. Even the best GMs get "lucky" with their trades. You can nitpick pretty much every trade if that was the case.

The Subban/Weber trade is a wash, both players were an integral part for their respective teams SCF run. The trade itself wasn't the issue, it was the lack of vision. We wanted to trade Subban for futures but decided to do the complete opposite when Dubois surprisingly went at #3 to the Jackets. There was a legit chance we came out with Draisaitl and Tkachuk that year.

...it was actually Timmins who talked Bargain into taking what Vegas offered, just for the discussion's purposes...that is also documented...point is that he was a horrid GM...Benning - Chiarelli level...

 

[salbutera]

Not true.

Petry, Romanov, Ouellet, Poehling et Dea : des départs «politiques»

Ceux-ci (et/ou leur conjointe) ont tous critiqué ou posé des actions contre le Canada et ses mesures en lien avec la COVID-19.

www.danslescoulisses.com

 

[Fainting Couch]

Petry, Romanov, Ouellet, Poehling et Dea : des départs «politiques»

Ceux-ci (et/ou leur conjointe) ont tous critiqué ou posé des actions contre le Canada et ses mesures en lien avec la COVID-19.

www.danslescoulisses.com

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None of that makes the line about Romanov's wife true.
Know what makes it not true? Her Instagram stories showing her at every home game.
Remember him bumping into the boards to get her attention?
Remember the wave?
Like I said, not true.

 

[The Great Weal]

...it was actually Timmins who talked Bargain into taking what Vegas offered, just for the discussion's purposes...that is also documented...point is that he was a horrid GM...Benning - Chiarelli level...

That's not how it happened, I hate giving that f***ing clown Trevor Timmins any credit at all. Bergevin went up to him and asked if Suzuki was still a good main piece as a return and Timmins said yes. Bergevin still acknowledged that it was by far the best offer he managed to get so I doubt Timmins' input made the trade happen since it was still the best offer out there. Bergevin made the decision to make that trade happen, makes no sense for Timmins to come out of the blue and convince MB to accept the best available offer that MB managed to get himself.

Not to mention that there is nothing wrong with consulting your team to make a big trade like this, especially when the main piece is a prospect that your scouts have been looking at way more than you just a year ago.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

None of that makes the line about Romanov's wife true.
Know what makes it not true? Her Instagram stories showing her at every home game.
Remember him bumping into the boards to get her attention?
Remember the wave?
Like I said, not true.

As if DansLesCoulisses was a reliable outlet!

 

[salbutera]

None of that makes the line about Romanov's wife true.
Know what makes it not true? Her Instagram stories showing her at every home game.
Remember him bumping into the boards to get her attention?
Remember the wave?
Like I said, not true.

3. Alexander Romanov
On a tendance à l’oublier celle-là, mais Sofia Krasovskaya, l’épouse d’Alexander Romanov, a elle aussi quitté le Québec/Canada pendant plusieurs semaines en janvier/février, alors que le Québec sombrait à nouveau dans les restrictions en lien avec la COVID-19. Krasovskaya est allé rejoindre Romanov à Miami lorsque celui-ci a dû y rester après avoir été testé positif à la COVID-19. Elle n’est pas revenue au Canada en même temps que son mari, préférant plutôt passer plusieurs semaines sous le chaud soleil (et la vie plus libre) de la Floride.


Les Romanov n’ont jamais fait de vague. Mais on dirait bien que le Canadien (Kent Hughes) a souhaité faire plaisir à Romanov (et à son épouse ?), question de préserver une bonne réputation dans le milieu et de ne pas avoir un joueur déçu dans le vestiaire. Hughes souhaite surtout avoir des joueurs qui sont heureux de jouer pour le Canadien (au Canada).

Ah oui, j’oubliais, Romanov avait confié lors de son dernier point de presse à Brossard qu’il n’allait pas voyager en Russie durant l’été… et quelques semaines plus tard, il était à Moscou avec sa conjointe. Le Canadien n’a possiblement pas trop tripé sur celle-là, même s’il prétend le contraire…

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

You said she hadn't came back since going to Florida.

It's false, no matter if you post lines from the rag you posted earlier.

 

[Fainting Couch]

See

You said she hadn't came back since going to Florida.

It's false, no matter if you post lines from the rag you posted earlier.

He sees actual proof of her being at the game and still goes back to an article written weeks before that event happened. He is denying reality!

 

[A55P2]

Can't quote the message above me, but this is a response to it.

Romanov's girlfriend probably never had been very long in Florida. She went on a vacation as people do, doesn't mean they were unhappy. Many people go on vacations, especially if they're loaded. To think this means anything else is really pushing it.

 

[Fainting Couch]

Remember this? NO YOU DON'T! @salbutera insists it never happened!

 

[Takeru]

As far as MB being a "horrid GM" that's a childish discarding analysis. He was a good GM in my opinion. I say this all the time but to me he was the plummer of GM. It felt like he was good at patching and solving problems but he never had a real plan.

It's-a-me, Bergevin!