Confirmed with Link: [PIT/MTL] Jeff Petry and Ryan Poehling for Mike Matheson and 4th PIT 2023
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General opinion seems to be Hughes got took on this trade. Petry less than Matheson. Poehling was starting to come around under MSL.
I think I would have hung onto Petry until trade deadline.
I think I would have hung onto Petry until trade deadline.
CHfan1
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Of the 23 players who played in the 2021 playoffs for the Habs, just over a year ago, only 9 are left. Quite the turnover.
Hmmm idk about all that… but Matheson is unique. He looks like a fast winger who can play D. He covers all the ice with his skating. He can join the rush and come back to his position in seconds. That’s why it’s very important to pair him with someone who can cover his ass when things go wrong.
You can bet on Matheson to open the play when the forwards are sleeping.
...that sounds a lot like a faster Petry...great offensive plays and boneheaded defensive miscues & all...
I get what you are saying, but Pitts just added a dman who will be not only happier but will also be playing on a way better team with a way better coach.
As such, it is quite likely he will revert to a 50 point dman if not better.
So in the end they got a (in all likelihood) a 50 point dman for a measly 1.5mill more on their cap and a 4th round pick
Sorry but they made out like bandits..
At least if we got a legit prospect back or even a 2nd rounder but geez...
Estimated_Prophet
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The entire D corps other than Edmundson is gone within 1 year of playing in the Cup finals......
No More Subban
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Nah.. this needed to happen before the season. Why drag this down for another 6 months? You don't want a disgruntled player in the locker room.
Glad this is over.
ArtPeur
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Hmmm idk about all that
You can bet on Matheson to open the play when the forwards are sleeping.
I guess Savard will be the one staying back. And by staying back, I mean literally below our own blue line
...is there any rule about Dmen wearing goalie gear??...cuz that Savard could do and it wouldn't hurt his game one bit...
Because you can't keep trading every player who doesn't like the team he is playing for regardless of the reason.
After the trades of McDonough Burns and Patches I’m actually surprised he got what he did. This trade could help secure a Top 5 pick in the upcoming draft. Thanks for all the years here Jeff!
Dr Quincy
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No More Subban
GHG
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Lol why the hell not?
When did Petry ask for a trade? Like start of last season? You really want to keep him around?
I don't.
I am worried about Poehling he’s still pretty young and never had a real chance on top lines.
I felt he would soon be way better than evans sooner than later.
I loved Petry's stay in Montreal
Wish him all the best in Pittsburgh. I suspect he does very well on that powerplay
Wish him all the best in Pittsburgh. I suspect he does very well on that powerplay
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GHG
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Lol you won't get a "legit" prospect for a 34 year old dman who played bad the previous season.
Habs did NOT retain any salary. That's already a W.
...Evans, while certainly less gifted and smaller, is tenacious and gives his all on every shift...the kid works his wee arse off for his opportunities...Poehling hasn't and doesn't...the kid just doesn't seem to want to work at getting better...
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Doubtful. Poehling hasn't been able to think the game fast enough at the NHL level. Not to mention, he'll likely end up a winger since he's atrocious in the circle.
The Great Weal
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Ultimately I don't really care about losing Petry and I'm sure Matheson will do fine here, but people here acting like he's Petry 2.0 and that his contract isn't unideal are out to lunch. I would have preferred to retain 50% on Petry and get back a better pick but we will still be a crap team so as long as we get a stud center this draft I'm ok with it.
OnTheRun
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He played with 0 sense of urgency last season, he had his chance to make an impression and he didn't. So he's gone now.
Zen Arcade
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Martin St Louis already said 'F" the systems.....he wants his players to be creative (more unleashed)...so Matheson will be in that enviroment.
New Canadiens coach Martin St. Louis prefers concepts over systems
"That was probably one of the things that I hated the most as a player is playing in a system," Hall of Famer says.montrealgazette.com
That was probably one of the things that I hated the most as a player is playing in a system," -Martin St Louis
“Systems, I feel like you box players in to be in a certain spot,” St. Louis said a day after being named to replace Ducharme. “Sometimes you don’t allow them to make reads because of it. A concept is more playing with a little more instinct with ideas of how we want to be as a team. Now, there is structure inside concepts.
“In systems, you box players in to only certain things they can do,” St. Louis added. “That was probably one of the things that I hated the most as a player is playing in a system. I was a great player when I was allowed to make reads because the best players make the best reads. But if you take the reads out of the equation, those best players become average. So I want to make sure that I allow my best players to make reads and I’d rather them make a bad one than not making a read at all. And sometimes in systems there’s not much reads. So I’m more excited as a player playing in a concept than in a system, but there’s tons of structure in a concept. It’s just a little more freedom.”
Not sure if that's ideal for Matheson, he needs structure more than freedom.
Fenwick McCorsi
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Well, thanks for all the years Jeff. I don't have a problem with this trade even if it didn't bring back anything sexy. An older D-man who shoots pucks into shins and who struggles if not in the right system approaching 35 with term isn't going to fetch a haul. Poehling is what it is, I think he's one of those young players who is at the "needs a change of scenery" to see if there's anything there point in his career.
Overall I rate this trade a solid OK.
Overall I rate this trade a solid OK.
ChesterNimitz
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This is a pretty accurate assessment: we traded a more expensive, older player for a younger, less expensive player. For the Penguins, the calculus was simple: their window of winning another championship with their aging core is quickly closing. In their mind, a declining Petry gives them a better chance of winning now than Matheson. For Montreal, we have no window of opportunity to worry about. We received a player who is quite mobile and can play big minutes. Matheson will never be the equal of Petry at his prime. But the team didn't trade Petry at his prime. The greater risk in this transaction is being assumed by the Penguins. Does he still have the juice to move the needle for the Penguins? That is their gamble. For Montreal, they traded a fading player for a younger player who I think is quite underrated. The cost of unloading Petry and his unfavorable contract was to sacrifice Poehling. A loss that should not be trivialized.
For those who now want to criticize Petry for wanting out of Montreal, they should remember that Petry served as a stout soldier and a leader of this team for almost a decade. We should wish him well.
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