Confirmed with Link: [PIT/MTL] Jeff Petry and Ryan Poehling for Mike Matheson and 4th PIT 2023

[Ozmodiar]

6 years younger. A little cheaper.

Born in Pointe-Claire.

His contract overlaps big Ed’s so he’ll be a veteran presence if Ed leaves. Good in the room.

Only D, off the top of my head, to make KK look like an all-star. lol

I suppose folks want salary cleared out ASAP, but that will come in time. HuGo would not have done this deal if it precluded any deal they’re working on. … if he’s working a deal for Dubois, money will be going back.

 

[MarioLeMoose]

Subban was booed even though he returned Webber and cried when he left. Petry returned us Matheson.

Can't boo Artturi, Chiarot, Kulak or Toffoli, so I'm booing the guy who forced the Habs hand for a trade, leaving the team with a longer contract at a similar cap hit for a lesser player. I don't boo often against former Habs players when at the Bell center, but this one I'll boo.

I wouldn't say he brought us to the finals. He was playing ok for a guy with a broken finger, but he was way better in the play-ins against the Pens. His reg eyes were awesome though

Who said he brought us to the finals?

Sounds like you’re just looking to boo for the sake of booing, so you have fun with that chief. Keep making us Habs fans look good.

 

[Habaneros]

Terrible trade.

I have been here to witness Petry trade from Oilers...i saw Oilers fans saying he was trash/glad he was gone,,,,.seen Habs fans here over reacting as well ...and whatever he was in Edmonton wasn't what he became in Montreal .....same goes for Chiarot, i seen Jets fans say 3,.5 million was way to much for him,,,,,glad he was gone .....i seen Habs fans even before he played 1 game calling him down lol......well he turned into a pretty good player for us .... WELL worth the 3,.5 million per yr.,

Mike Matheson, we got Pens fan happy he is gone?( i seen this before lol) and Habs fan who never watched him play saying garbage,,,,(i seen this before)

as with the 2 players above(Petry /Chiarot) GIVE Him (Matheson) A CHANCE ON THE ICE ...lets see 2 years from now who is eating crow and who isn't,,,

 

[Omar]

I'd trade Matheson ASAP, in case he becomes an anchor contract. He has 1 more year on his deal than Petry.

We believe in Matheson’s potential and so the extra year doesn’t matter to us when his cap hit is under $5M.

 

[LaP]

Pretty bad deal. I guess Petry wanted to be traded before the season starts. But to be honest i would have preferred to give him for nothing. Matheson's contract is not great either. Pens is a very well managed team no doubt about it.

 

[Wateredgarden]

Terrible trade.



Petry > Matheson.

And we never got to see Poehling under MSL.

Yes, Poehling was going to be a star under msl. And Petry is just going to get better at almost 34 years old.

Tbh, Matheson is better than Petry at this point.

We'll see next season, Petry is really good when he's on the second pairing, he'll get that in Pittsburgh, and Matheson will be a NHL #1 defenceman for the first time in his life, he might surprise us all.

 

[calder candidate]

Matheson is a warm body to play on the Top-4 and mentor a younger D which we have a lot of of. He’s also a Montrealer.

I expect he will exceed expectations, he’s one of those under appreciated guys across the league because he’s really good but doesn’t stand out doing it.

He will be a staple in the top4 the next 2-3 years and then likely gets flipped to contender for a prospect ready to make the jump.

I agree that Mathewson might be under appreciated but he still isn’t has good has Petry (RD) plus he has 1 more years, if we couldn’t get value for Petry 6.25M$ x3 y how are we going to get value for Matheson at 4.85M$ x4years… I would have rather traded Petry at 50% retention and get a better return than take on4.85M$ for 4years…

 

[jaffy27]

Hughes on Matheson: 'Mike is a five-star human being'​

The Canadiens' GM spoke glowingly about the new acquisition from the Penguins​

that's nice but has is he as a hockey player?

Even Hughes seems to express that he is not as good a dman as Petry and does bring a lot of what Petry did

Hughes on acquiring a veteran blueliner to replace Petry:

In any trade that we were going to contemplate with Pittsburgh or any other team that involved Jeff Petry, one of the elements that had to either come in the trade or we had to be able to thereafter acquire was a defenseman. Mike Matheson is a defenseman who was playing top-4 minutes in Pittsburgh that brings a lot of the qualities that we lose in a Jeff Petry in terms of his ability to transport the puck. Last season, Mike was in the 90th percentile for goals in the NHL at 5-on-5 per 60 minutes. He was 85th percentile in points. He scored five game-winning goals, and almost all of his offensive production came at even-strength. I also know him as an individual. I feel really comfortable that Mike is the kind of person in our locker room, at this point in his career, that can assist our young players, be it the draft picks like Juraj Slafkovsky or our young defensemen that are trying to make their way as regular NHL players. Mike is a five-star human being who can be of great assistance to our club.

His explanation is the polar opposite of this boards views on Matheson…..

HF boards: “he sucks” “bad trade” “Hughes honeymoon over”…..wow, what a take HF

Hughes take on Matheson: a methodical lengthy explanation

 

[Wateredgarden]

Let's be honest, are you sure about that?

No.

 

[JoelWarlord]

At the end of the day I think Matheson at 4x4.875 remaining is a much better investment than anything we could have done with a UFA defenceman had we just traded Petry for a pick.

It's a weird move still in some ways and I still am pretty adamant that Petry's market should be much higher, and that I think it is insane that teams would rather sign John f***ing Klingberg for 7 years than trade for him, but if this is what the market looked like I don't mind this as a way to move on from a guy who didn't want to be there anymore. Matheson should be a good soldier this year and help the PP out, and I think you can be pretty bullish on the idea of a Matheson-Barron 2nd pair in the future.

 

[OnTheRun]

Chillout man, we didn't get an Alzner in this trade.

We can't get another Petry's most reliable partner when Petry in gone with the deal.

 

[beowulf]

His explanation is the polar opposite of this boards views on Matheson…..

HF boards: “he sucks” “bad trade” “Hughes honeymoon over”…..wow, what a take HF

Hughes take on Matheson: a methodical lengthy explanation

I don't think he sucks I just don't think he is as good, especially offensively, as Petry right now. Things could change he is 5-6 years younger.

 

[Habby Patty]

Subban was booed even though he returned Webber and cried when he left. Petry returned us Matheson.

Can't boo Artturi, Chiarot, Kulak or Toffoli, so I'm booing the guy who forced the Habs hand for a trade, leaving the team with a longer contract at a similar cap hit for a lesser player. I don't boo often against former Habs players when at the Bell center, but this one I'll boo.

I wouldn't say he brought us to the finals. He was playing ok for a guy with a broken finger, but he was way better in the play-ins against the Pens. His reg eyes were awesome though

You’re a grown man bro. Whole account is cringe and didn’t age well btw

 

[LaP]

His explanation is the polar opposite of this boards views on Matheson…..

HF boards: “he sucks” “bad trade” “Hughes honeymoon over”…..wow, what a take HF

Hughes take on Matheson: a methodical lengthy explanation

Matheson doesn't suck. But he is a 3.5 to 4 millions dman not an almost 5 millions dman. If next season Petry plays like he did under MSL it's a very good trade for the Pens. We'll be able to flip Matheson in the last year of his contract but at this point we will probably try to win. If Matheson had 1 year remaining i'd be fine with the trade since we could flip him at the tdl this year for a 2023 pick. But he got 3 years.

 

[calder candidate]

That's a pretty bleak future, and I don't want any part of it.

the autocorrect mess up… even if they weren’t part of the future we should have gotten something better…

 

[26Mats]

Yes, Poehling was going to be a star under msl. And Petry is just going to get better at almost 34 years old.

Tbh, Matheson is better than Petry at this point.

We'll see next season, Petry is really good when he's on the second pairing, he'll get that in Pittsburgh, and Matheson will be a NHL #1 defenceman for the first time in his life, he might surprise us all.

Yes, we'll see about Matheson and Poehling. Petry should be the same Petry we saw under MSL. Looking at Petry's stats from last year when he was stagnant under DD is like looking at Caufield's stats without taking into account the difference under MSL.

But hopefully Matheson does well, and we'll see about Poehling...

 

[WeThreeKings]

I'm not a big fan of this move.. but I see it as instead of clearing Petry out for little and paying a UFA defenseman a similarly bad contract, they bring in the veteran D man that they have a preference for.

 

[26Mats]

We believe in Matheson’s potential and so the extra year doesn’t matter to us when his cap hit is under $5M.

If Matheson is good for us that would be great.

But if he's so good, why are the Pens moving him for 34 year old Petry?

 

[Omar]

If Matheson is good for us that would be great.

But if he's so good, why are the Pens moving him for 34 year old Petry?

They didn’t want to move him but they needed right defensemen.

 

[26Mats]

I'm not a big fan of this move.. but I see it as instead of clearing Petry out for little and paying a UFA defenseman a similarly bad contract, they bring in the veteran D man that they have a preference for.

Well if we were to sign a stop gap D, there should be a ton available for short term low cap hits.

But as long as Metheson plays well, this is a good deal.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Also not surprised Poehling is gone. They didn't like him and he doesn't seem like a smart hockey player, so the MSL system was never going to be a place for him.

End of the Poehling chapter and I'll be collecting my W.

 

[Captain Mountain]

If Matheson is good for us that would be great.

But if he's so good, why are the Pens moving him for 34 year old Petry?

Pittsburgh is win now and had a ton of money and players on the left side. No one wants Pettersson and they don't want to move Doumolin.

and Petry is better.

 

[Habs Icing]

Not really. If Price collects his signing bonus next July he’s only leaving 17 million on the table and he is definitely the kind of player that can ‘just walk away’ if that’s what he decides to do,

Walk away from 17 mil, right.

 

[Pickles]

Terrible trade.



Petry > Matheson.

And we never got to see Poehling under MSL.

Poehling is a bust. We got younger, faster and free'd up cap space.

 

[26Mats]

I have been here to witness Petry trade from Oilers...i saw Oilers fans saying he was trash/glad he was gone,,,,.seen Habs fans here over reacting as well ...and whatever he was in Edmonton wasn't what he became in Montreal .....same goes for Chiarot, i seen Jets fans say 3,.5 million was way to much for him,,,,,glad he was gone .....i seen Habs fans even before he played 1 game calling him down lol......well he turned into a pretty good player for us .... WELL worth the 3,.5 million per yr.,

Mike Matheson, we got Pens fan happy he is gone?( i seen this before lol) and Habs fan who never watched him play saying garbage,,,,(i seen this before)

as with the 2 players above(Petry /Chiarot) GIVE Him (Matheson) A CHANCE ON THE ICE ...lets see 2 years from now who is eating crow and who isn't,,,

I will definitely give him a chance.

But I have seen him play.

Hopefully HuGo saw something and saw right!