Confirmed with Link: [PIT/MTL] Jeff Petry and Ryan Poehling for Mike Matheson and 4th PIT 2023
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I think most of us understand that this is the best Hughes could do at this time. The writing was on the wall on the first day of UFA Frenzy — cap space is the rarest and most valued of assets.
We cringed when those other teams made deals that looked subpar to us and couldn’t understand how Hughes was not able to make some cap room or just make the one trade.
Today was our turn. We still managed to gain some cap room, get younger and did it by ridding ourselves of a toxic asset in Petry (maybe Poehling was non grata too and had his own issues in the dressing room on account of his political views, who knows).
Martin St Louis already said 'F" the systems.....he wants his players to be creative (more unleashed)...so Matheson will be in that enviroment.
New Canadiens coach Martin St. Louis prefers concepts over systems
"That was probably one of the things that I hated the most as a player is playing in a system," Hall of Famer says.
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That was probably one of the things that I hated the most as a player is playing in a system," -Martin St Louis
“Systems, I feel like you box players in to be in a certain spot,” St. Louis said a day after being named to replace Ducharme. “Sometimes you don’t allow them to make reads because of it. A concept is more playing with a little more instinct with ideas of how we want to be as a team. Now, there is structure inside concepts.
“In systems, you box players in to only certain things they can do,” St. Louis added. “That was probably one of the things that I hated the most as a player is playing in a system. I was a great player when I was allowed to make reads because the best players make the best reads. But if you take the reads out of the equation, those best players become average. So I want to make sure that I allow my best players to make reads and I’d rather them make a bad one than not making a read at all. And sometimes in systems there’s not much reads. So I’m more excited as a player playing in a concept than in a system, but there’s tons of structure in a concept. It’s just a little more freedom.”
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So he played 2 seasons in Pittsburgh - this year he was great and the other was the COVID shortened season
So by every year besides this year you meant his 44 game COVID season?
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From what I gather from interviews they work as a team which is far better than Bergevin and his bicep club of yes men. I think you're right about Gorton having the last word though.
Tbh Matheson was a better player last season than Petry who's 33. I was hoping for a steal but let's be honest, the player coming back is the best in the deal.
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He wasn’t but I was hoping for pick or prospect that could have a chance / some hope of maybe being something… I was hoping he would get something for taking on Matheson or trading them Petry+ Peohling… Pit had to move a contract to make room so we paid Poehling and only got a 4th for taken the contract so they can upgrade there D…
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Canadiens acquire Mike Matheson from the Penguins | Montréal Canadiens
Jeff Petry and Ryan Poehling were traded to Pittsburgh in exchange for the veteran defensemanwww.nhl.com
Terrible trade.
Petry > Matheson.
And we never got to see Poehling under MSL.
At the end of the day, for whatever reason Petry did want to move I guess. I can only hope that Matheson can become a bigger leader and produce some points. When he is basically your default #1 dman, you know it's going to be a long season (unless another dman is acquired somehow of course). Right now it looks like the team will be going with at least 2 rookies (Harris, Guhle, Barron) + 3 vets in Matheson, Edmundson and Savard and 32 year old Wideman and his 245 career games.
Man some of you guys.... talk about Chicken Little syndrome. Guaranteed any other deals involved salary retention and i highly doubt they were getting a first back.
You'll probably all bitch about them finishing bottom 5 next year too! This is going to take 2-3 years before they're competitive.
You'll probably all bitch about them finishing bottom 5 next year too! This is going to take 2-3 years before they're competitive.
Kulak never showed this type of offensive potential.
Matheson's 11 goals and 20 assists mainly at even strength clearly show that there's offense in this guy.
Petry had an 8 G 20 A season before he hit 40 points during his next season.
26Mats
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I'd trade Matheson ASAP, in case he becomes an anchor contract. He has 1 more year on his deal than Petry.
...so just throw the kids to the wolves, then??...we need at least a couple of vets back there to carry the water until the kids are ready to do so...this seems to be one of those cases, not to mention that Matheson isn't the "cap dump" that many in here are making him out to be...
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Subban was booed even though he returned Webber and cried when he left. Petry returned us Matheson.
Can't boo Artturi, Chiarot, Kulak or Toffoli, so I'm booing the guy who forced the Habs hand for a trade, leaving the team with a longer contract at a similar cap hit for a lesser player. I don't boo often against former Habs players when at the Bell center, but this one I'll boo.
I wouldn't say he brought us to the finals. He was playing ok for a guy with a broken finger, but he was way better in the play-ins against the Pens. His reg eyes were awesome though
This is probably the deal that was rumoured to be done. Petry was vocal about going closer to home, and shipping out Romanov when you know Matheson is coming in makes some sense.
Now, the right side of the defence is a big question mark. The LD is looking jammed and there's an overload of wingers. Since draft day, Hughes has probably been working on fixing this much more than finalizing the details of the Petry trade. If Dubois really does come here, I bet players like Edmundson and Demelo are included in the deal.
Now, the right side of the defence is a big question mark. The LD is looking jammed and there's an overload of wingers. Since draft day, Hughes has probably been working on fixing this much more than finalizing the details of the Petry trade. If Dubois really does come here, I bet players like Edmundson and Demelo are included in the deal.
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I don’t care, Petry is a lot better than he get credit for. you need to manage your asset you aren’t getting F all for dumping Drouin and Byron especially you might retaining 50% so how much cap are you getting + those deal are done at the end year anyway… I understand not getting anything or having to include Poehling to move Byron but not Petry…
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26Mats
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We can sign vets. There are many still available for cheap, short term deals.
Yes, I only know Matheson so well. Hopefully he won't be or become an anchor contract.
Chillout man, we didn't get an Alzner in this trade.
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We can sign vets. There are many still available for cheap, short term deals.
Yes, I only know Matheson so well. Hopefully he won't be or become an anchor contract.
Can he play the right side????
