Value of: Pick #13. BUF looking for top 4 RD

Gabrielor

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This will probably be an unpopular opinion amongst Canes fans but I would consider trading Brett Pesce.

28 y/o rock solid defender who can be a 2/3 with 1 year left at $4m AAV.

NY state guy as well so he’d probably be cool resigning in Buffalo.

Canes need scoring wingers but draft capital and prospects are good too. We have some young D re-enforcements that will be looking to make a jump to the NHL soon and we can’t afford to keep all of Slavin, Skjei, and Pesce.
Yes to Pesce. Very much yes.

13 for Pesce, and I assure you a winger that's good is there (that's our problem, we don't need more wingers).

As for wingers that score that we have now? Rosen is probably the best we can offer that isn't giving you longshots with potential (Kisakov, Poltapov, Neuchev, etc)
 

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This will probably be an unpopular opinion amongst Canes fans but I would consider trading Brett Pesce.

28 y/o rock solid defender who can be a 2/3 with 1 year left at $4m AAV.

NY state guy as well so he’d probably be cool resigning in Buffalo.

Canes need scoring wingers but draft capital and prospects are good too. We have some young D re-enforcements that will be looking to make a jump to the NHL soon and we can’t afford to keep all of Slavin, Skjei, and Pesce.
Pesce would be an ideal add for Buffalo, if he'd be willing to extend with us.

Scoring wingers? Yep. We got them. Draft capital? Yep, can do.

#13 would certainly be on the table. We'd offer Olofsson at 50%, but I'm not sure Brind'Amor would be a fan....but he can score 25 in his sleep. I don't think you could get Peterka for him...or Kulich. But Rosen would be available.
 
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GIN ANTONIC

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Sorry guys… Olafsson ain’t it. 25-30 goal scorer who hasn’t cracked 50 points doesn’t move the needle. We’ve got those guys.

Also, Olafsson is only a year younger, makes $700k more than Pesce and is also set to be a UFA in a year. He’s not the type of player we’re looking for in the top 6, especially not at the cost of Pesce.

The 13th could be a piece of interest but if it’s gonna be a roster player it’s gotta be higher than that. Canes lose on that deal easily.
 

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Was it last draft Lou Lam used 13OA to get Romanov? I think it would cost 13 + 45 to get a top four youngish RSD. Unless there were more teams interested in the same guy. Then the price would go up.
 

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Was it last draft Lou Lam used 13OA to get Romanov? I think it would cost 13 + 45 to get a top four youngish RSD. Unless there were more teams interested in the same guy. Then the price would go up.

Just wondering else in that range is shopping for this sort of player or would have a willingness to put this sort of pick up? Vancouver at 11?

It was Romanov and 98 for 13.

Good point.
 

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Just wondering else in that range is shopping for this sort of player or would have a willingness to put this sort of pick up? Vancouver at 11?


Good point.

Didn’t the Canucks already get their top 4 RSD at the TDL - Roenek?

But for sure there will be teams bidding on any young (22-26) top four RSD who comes available. Could push up the price a lot.
 

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You will get garbage proposals…

to get 13OA it would be someone either on ELC or ELC just ended, or they finished year 1 of a 6+ yr contract signed after an ELC ended.

The player would have to be U25 and 4+ yrs of team control Who would be a 2/3 D. And actually shoots right, not just plays on right side.
No it wouldn’t, just for the record.
 

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It'd be interesting if they knew they could extend him. One year of control without knowing that would be too much risk, but it's always possible.

Also, while a NYS guy, his hometown is in the Hudson Valley, about a six hour drive away from Buffalo (sorta like Raleigh to say Brunswick, GA or Wilmington, DE).
I mean, all of that is a ‘you guys thing’. Pay Pesce appropriately in his next deal and it’s likely he stays. You have a year to convince him to do that while playing on an up and coming team on the rise.

As I mentioned and you did, he’s from NYS… I didn’t say Buffalo area or Western NY. It’s closer than 90% other teams in the league. It’s a plus for trying to get him to re-sign, not a slam dunk.
 

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Oh, it's REAL easy for me to see Adams keeping the pick. He's droned on and on and on about making sure Buffalo is set up for the long haul.

I think it should be available for the right guy......but Adams isn't going to trade it just to trade it.
Which of course is a good thing, we had Murray for that.
 
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I would hope this would be a trade at the time of the selection. If someone Buffalo loves slides, they keep the pick. If someone else they're talking with loves a guy who slides, then pull the trigger. No sense for either club to pull the trigger now only to regret it.
 

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Oh, it's REAL easy for me to see Adams keeping the pick. He's droned on and on and on about making sure Buffalo is set up for the long haul.

I think it should be available for the right guy......but Adams isn't going to trade it just to trade it.
I believe you are correct. I don't see Adam's moving the 13th OA. I also see him keeping one or both, of the 2nd rounders if the right deal isn't there.
 

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Roy maybe. Durzi, no.
13 OA pick in a strong draft for 1 season of Roy, who turns 29?
That won't cut it. If I am Buffalo, Durzi is the choice. He fits the age of the group and there is control after his deal.

With Clarke ready to go and with Roy, Walker, and Grans in the pipeline - if the Kings want a very good pick in this draft - I think Durzi is the price, especially if you look at the Romanov and Hronek deals. If Durzi is a deal breaker, then that's fine - Buffalo looks elsewhere and/or keeps the pick.
 

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13 OA pick in a strong draft for 1 season of Roy, who turns 29?

If I am Buffalo, Durzi is the choice.

With Clarke ready to go - if the Kings want a very good pick in this draft - I think Durzi is the price, especially if you look at the Romanov and Hronek deals. If Durzi is a deal breaker, then that's fine - Buffalo looks elsewhere and/or keeps the pick.
I think the Sabres could get Durzi for 13 but they’d need to add a second. Plus other teams would be in on Durzi too, which would Jack up the price.
 

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13 OA pick in a strong draft for 1 season of Roy, who turns 29?
That won't cut it. If I am Buffalo, Durzi is the choice. He fits the age of the group and there is control after his deal.

With Clarke ready to go and with Roy, Walker, and Grans in the pipeline - if the Kings want a very good pick in this draft - I think Durzi is the price, especially if you look at the Romanov and Hronek deals. If Durzi is a deal breaker, then that's fine - Buffalo looks elsewhere and/or keeps the pick.

No, it's that Durzi isn't the player Roy is. The idea would be to extend Roy or find another player, but they don't need another offensive defenseman like Durzi.
 

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