Phoenix LXXX: Is there another way out?

[Phil Parent]

I agree. Cannot see Quebecor and the city of Quebec accepting to push over mid-June.
City is responsible for old Colisée's refurbishing process and works to be done there is more than just to spread 2-3 gallons of painting on the walls...

The refurbishing will be done whether or not a team moves in.

 

[OttawaRoughRiderFan*]

Unfortunately, me neither. I expect it to drag long enough for the NHL to be stuck in Glendale for another year. Then, next year, when Seattle will have the promise of an NBA expansion franchise, the Coyotes will move there and we will end up empty-handed. I don't believe we will have an expansion team either, the league will go to TO2 and somewhere on the American West Coast (Portland, perhaps).

I think the NHL will find a way to get the money out of Glendale. I, however, do think QC will get a team thru expansion. But, I promise you this...

If Gary Bettman were to come out and promise QC the right of first refusal on a franchise, either thru expansion or relocation, I would never say another bad word about him. To me, he would have righted a wrong. I just think it is a shame that a man like that would run my favourite league - minus the CFL.

 

[Slashers98]

I think the NHL will find a way to get the money out of Glendale. I, however, do think QC will get a team thru expansion. But, I promise you this...

If Gary Bettman were to come out and promise QC the right of first refusal on a franchise, either thru expansion or relocation, I would never say another bad word about him. To me, he would have righted a wrong. I just think it is a shame that a man like that would run my favourite league - minus the CFL.

And how do you expect them to do that KevyD? Glendale confirmed their tentative budget for 2013-14 once again last night during their city meeting and it's $6M/year, not a penny above...

 

[Wingsfan2965*]

Did they specifically say not a penny above?

 

[Major4Boarding]

Did they specifically say not a penny above?

Yes. When the minutes (or video - whichever is posted first) come out, snip-its will be posted here I'm sure

 

[Warhead77]

Last night during the Kings-Sharks telecast - they showed Bettman and Daley watching the game.

Bettman really looked agitated. I mean, it could certainly be the travel and long day but seriously he looked kinda unsettled.

Wish I had a screen cap of it.

 

[Donwood]

Last night during the Kings-Sharks telecast - they showed Bettman and Daley watching the game.

Bettman really looked agitated. I mean, it could certainly be the travel and long day but seriously he looked kinda unsettled.

Wish I had a screen cap of it.

Doesn't Bettman ALWAYS look that way?

 

[Donwood]

I don't understand the rational for anyone saying the NHL will stay. Even an optimist can't envision much more then 6 million to run the arena and that's IF Glendale is foolish enough to let the NHL do it.

The media coverage in all of this has been baffling. even out of Quebec you get some saying Bettman won't go to Quebec.

I honestly feel the NHL to avoid leaks and speculation over Quebec has quietly put out misinformation.

The NHL has played in a lot worse temporary venues then the old Collisee and I don't believe for a moment the NHL BoG's want another year of this garbage.

 

[OthmarAmmann]

Last night during the Kings-Sharks telecast - they showed Bettman and Daley watching the game.

Bettman really looked agitated. I mean, it could certainly be the travel and long day but seriously he looked kinda unsettled.

Wish I had a screen cap of it.

 

[Warhead77]

Doesn't Bettman ALWAYS look that way?

On a serious note - no, not necessarily.

He usually is in a talkative mood with Bill but they both seemed very quiet.
Bettman had the same "crap in his pants" look when he saw the Brunt story on his blackberry breaking the Thrashers to Winnipeg story in 2011.

Just an observation.

 

[Major4Boarding]

Enough!!

 

[Skidooboy]

One question i have been operating under the assumption that there was no lease signed for next year so if the coyotes stay in Glendale where would they play? Am I completely out to lunch ,or, have I read the sequence of events correctly?

No lease with NHL, no deal with Gosbee, QC is a there is left.

One more thing's Re: last season. It was worthwhile for the owners to maintain Phoenix on the books as a money-losing team going into the CBA negotiations. however this year they got the Cba they wanted so there is far less use in keeping the dogs in place

 

[Hal1971]

The refurbishing will be done whether or not a team moves in.

No, what's left to do will only be done IF a NHL team come... (players room, etc..)

 

[Scandale du Jour]

No, what's left to do will only be done IF a NHL team come... (players room, etc..)

The mayor said it would be done this summer no matter what, did he not? I remember him saying that they would be ready in October and all that was missing was a team. I might remember wrong, though.

 

[cheswick]

Doug Maclean on Hockey Central yesterday said it was his understanding that the NHL was playing hardball with the COG using Seattle as leverage, when the NBA deal fell apart the NHL has been much kinder to the COG. He told Bill Daily to call him up if he was wrong.

 

[Whileee]

I agree, I wouldn't expect a relo announcement this Friday either.

Man, if I could get a check in the mail for $10 for every post that had an '[announcement relocating the team] is coming this week or end of the week or tomorrow or some imminent date' prediction... that would be nice for me.

I'm sure we'd all accept those checks if someone wanted to issue them.

Hey... city of Glendale maybe? What's $25 million divided by $10 bucks? 2.5 million... That'd probably cover it, to date, right? Seems like the prediction of relocation has been predicted in BoH posts about 2.5 million times...

Expecting if they relocate, whoever posted in the first thread years ago that they would relocate to announce "I was right, I said it first, just slightly off on the timing!"

& Globe & Mail will probably have a big headline that day:

TOLD YOU SO, BACK IN '96

To raise more money for the cause, let's include $10 for every post that said that a deal for a local sale was imminent, with [insert name of owner] coming to keep the Coyotes in Glendale forever.

* edit - oops, I see that CF jumped on this already.

 

[OttawaRoughRiderFan*]

And how do you expect them to do that KevyD? Glendale confirmed their tentative budget for 2013-14 once again last night during their city meeting and it's $6M/year, not a penny above...

I don't know, buddy. I really don't. Just a gut feeling.

 

[MaskedSonja]

To raise more money for the cause, let's include $10 for every post that said that a deal for a local sale was imminent, with [insert name of owner] coming to keep the Coyotes in Glendale forever.

* edit - oops, I see that CF jumped on this already.

With an extra 5 dollars for every time the term "two weeks" has been mentioned

 

[RandR]

And how do you expect them to do that KevyD? Glendale confirmed their tentative budget for 2013-14 once again last night during their city meeting and it's $6M/year, not a penny above...

There may be options for the team and the city to tap into new revenue streams to find additional money beyond the $6million the city has budgeted for an arena manager, he [edit: Councilman Manny Martinez] said.

http://www.azcentral.com/community/glendale/articles/20130528nhl-executives-potential-coyotes-buyers-meet-at-glendale-city-hall.html

 

[Slashers98]

http://www.azcentral.com/community/glendale/articles/20130528nhl-executives-potential-coyotes-buyers-meet-at-glendale-city-hall.html

With cuts to other services... yes that will fly with the citizens of Glendale...

 

[Finlandia WOAT]

With cuts to other services... yes that will fly with the citizens of Glendale...

I have a question: why do people keep predisposing what Glendale citizens want?

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Because it is quite obvious that most of them don't care about hockey at all and it is also pretty obvious that EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD, even us in hockey-mad Quebec City, would prefer good firemen to a hockey team. But, yeah, I guess we aren't in their minds.

 

[New User Name]

I have a question: why do people keep predisposing what Glendale citizens want?

I don't give a damn what they want.
I do know what they don't want though.

 

[wunderpanda]

I legitimately don't know what to think about this anymore. At first I admired the CoG funding the team until an owner was found. Now that the city hasn't been getting any return on the investment its asinine for the league to expect it to continue. Even if the league was paying rent it would be less than the subsidy the city funneled back.

City funded arenas I get that, been around since the 1930s in one form or another, supporting an ownerless franchise is unique but for an owner to expect the city to continue the escapade is just wrong.
Falls squarely on ownerships shoulders to pay to use the arena, to cover team losses and for the city to benefit from the team.

I hope a deal gets worked out, but I doubt Gosbee has the money to do it, I doubt the CoG is foolish enough to pay for the team after he backs out and I doubt the NHL takes the chance of dealing with a 3rd party arena manager in July.

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[knorthern knight]

*Unless there is any truth to the rumor alleged to originate from within Quebecor that two teams are in major trouble. In that case the NHL might be trying to salvage Glendale because it can't put two separate teams in Quebec City!

Copps There's always Coliseum in Hamilton. In a real emergency Credit Union Centre in Saskatoon can seat 11,130 for hockey.