Player Discussion Phillip Danault: What's My Line Edition

[CristianoRonaldo]

He caused a goal, but made a nice assist during the 3rd and his fans are out in full force.

"We told you, he's so good, eat your crows."

Calm down guys, of course he will get some points here and there, he's an NHLer...

 

[JeffreyLFC]

It has a ton of sense when he’s demanding top 6 minutes and expects to be paid as such.

Again, why is that relevant? He might ask to get McDavid salary it does not mean he deserves it nor will he ever get paid that much.

I think the hate is misplaced. People are hating on him as he is our top paid played. He is not and will never be.

 

[Belial]

It has a ton of sense when he’s demanding top 6 minutes and expects to be paid as such.

Again, why are you even bringing his contract? It's so weird...

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Who said he's a goalscorer? What's the point in bringing his goals all the time when it has no sense?

We are not asking him to be a goalscorer, but just around 15-20 goals per season... 2 goals in 50 games is pathetic.

 

[Belial]

We are not asking him to be a goalscorer, but just around 15-20 goals per season... 2 goals in 50 games is pathetic.

Yeah right, who are you trying to kid?

 

[JeffreyLFC]

He caused a goal, but made a nice assist during the 3rd and his fans are out in full force.

"We told you, he's so good, eat your crows."

Calm down guys, of course he will get some points here and there, he's an NHLer...

Stop the bullshit with his 'fans' comment. I don't give a shit about Danault, he could be traded tomorrow or waved and I would not be sad but based on his role on the team he has been doing an ok job and he is clearly NOT what I would call a problem or at least not even 1% as bad as his haters claim he is. He has been scapegoated by people around here because they always need a guy to hate. The hate is reaching new height, the guy is just an average NHLer and he has been good value and yes the habs are a better with him in the lineup than without him.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Again, why are you even bringing his contract? It's so weird...

The contract demand correlates with what he thinks he is as a player. He isn’t a top 6 center scoring at a 5 goal a year pace with little to no playmaking ability. Good defensive players with limited offensive talent get put in the bottom 6. This guy thinks he’s something he’s not.

 

[le_sean]

Hold on. Have you ever heard about team balance and playmaker?
He has been bad offensively and he needs to score at some point but his value to the team is not his goalscoring ability. He is a shutdown/checking line center and going by that standard he has been doing a decent job.

You’d have a point if he hadn’t scored in like 10-15 games. This is 50 f***ing games. He’s a top 6 centre playing with 60 point players in Gallagher and Tatar.

If you want to go with his “playmaking” he has 19 points in his last 46 games. This is while averaging around 19-22 mins a game.

But he wins faceoffs. Wow.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

Stop the bullshit with his 'fans' comment. I don't give a shit about Danault, he could be traded tomorrow or waved and I would not be sad but based on his role on the team he has been doing an ok job and he is clearly NOT what I would call a problem or at least not even 1% as bad as his haters claim he is. He has been scapegoated by people around here because they always need a guy to hate. The hate is reaching new height, the guy is just an average NHLer and he has been good value and yes the habs are a better with him in the lineup than without him.

When he's at his best, he's a great #3C, it's not the case this season. Tonight again, he looked lost on the first goal...

Of course he's our scapegoat, after his comments after the playoffs...

"I'm not ready to have a more defensive role to let KK and Suzuki get more offensive opportunities"

"I know that I can find another gear offensively"

"I already took a discount on my previous contract"

 

[Belial]

The contract demand correlates with what he thinks he is as a player. He isn’t a top 6 center scoring at a 5 goal a year pace with little to no playmaking ability. Good defensive players with limited offensive talent get put in the bottom 6. This guy thinks he’s something he’s not.

Let's agree to disagree. You seem to completely ignore the defensive side of the game.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

We are not asking him to be a goalscorer, but just around 15-20 goals per season... 2 goals in 50 games is pathetic.

15/20 goals, tame down your expectation. He is not that type of player. My expectation are 10/15 goals and around 40 ish points but being a shutdown type of center.

 

[le_sean]

15/20 goals, tame down your expectation. He is not that type of player. My expectation are 10/15 goals and around 40 ish points but being a shutdown type of center.

Then why does he himself claim to be a Top 6 centre that can thrive when given a chance offensively? He values himself as such too.

 

[Kojo]

He's losing a lot of money since he refused 5m x 6 so he's probably not feeling good about this right-now. We need him for this season but after that good bye Danault.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

You’d have a point if he hadn’t scored in like 10-15 games. This is 50 f***ing games. He’s a top 6 centre playing with 60 point players in Gallagher and Tatar.

If you want to go with his “playmaking” he has 19 points in his last 46 games. This is while averaging around 19-22 mins a game.

But he wins faceoffs. Wow.

Again, it's a team balance and his role is to help defensively so his wingers can 'cheat' more offensively. I swear if his wingers was Byron, Lekhonen people would still complain. He has been poor offensively and he needs to step up. He his losing money by the day for his next contract. He is still more valuable in the lineup than outside.

 

[Saundies]

15/20 goals, tame down your expectation. He is not that type of player. My expectation are 10/15 goals and around 40 ish points but being a shutdown type of center.

And how much do you realistically pay a player like that, keeping in mind that said player has already turned down 5 million a year?

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Then why does he himself claim to be a Top 6 centre that can thrive when given a chance offensively? He values himself as such too.

Because he is deluded? Does not mean he has no value for an NHL team.

 

[nhlfan9191]

Let's agree to disagree. You seem to completely ignore the defensive side of the game.

Pretending he hasn’t been putrid in that “defensive” area you talk about for a large majority of this season. He’s demanding a role and money that real top 6 players get.

 

[le_sean]

Again, it's a team balance and his role is to help defensively so his wingers can 'cheat' more offensively. I swear if his wingers was Byron, Lekhonen people would still complain. He has been poor offensively and he needs to step up. He his losing money by the day for his next contract. He is still more valuable in the lineup than outside.

No I didn’t complain when in the playoffs he sucked so much that they eventually put him with Byron and Lehkonen, because that’s where he belongs. He doesn’t belong with good offensive wingers because plays die on his stick and his shot is as bad as Mete’s.

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Stop the bullshit with his 'fans' comment. I don't give a shit about Danault, he could be traded tomorrow or waved and I would not be sad but based on his role on the team he has been doing an ok job and he is clearly NOT what I would call a problem or at least not even 1% as bad as his haters claim he is. He has been scapegoated by people around here because they always need a guy to hate. The hate is reaching new height, the guy is just an average NHLer and he has been good value and yes the habs are a better with him in the lineup than without him.

This is correct, I’d actually say he’s an above average defensive NHLr and a below average offensive NHLr so it evens out, a perfect #3C on a contending team. The hate comes from he doesn’t see himself as that and his coach doesn’t see himself as that so now he gets the 2 best wingers to try and get him out of a funk that’s not a funk, it’s the way it is. Muller had him playing where he belongs in the bubble and we saw Suzuki and KK play their best hockey. PD spat the dummy thinking he’s what Claude thinks he is - and why wouldn’t he when it’s reinforced with lineup like tonight.

 

[CristianoRonaldo]

15/20 goals, tame down your expectation. He is not that type of player. My expectation are 10/15 goals and around 40 ish points but being a shutdown type of center.

He was playing 19:00/night, with 1:34 of pp time/night, it's the minimum... Now in his new role, I expect around 10 goals and 35-40 points.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

And how much do you realistically pay a player like that, keeping in mind that said player has already turned down 5 million a year?

Easy peasy. Let the market decide. In his head he might be worth 6M or whatever the reality will sink in when he sees how much he receives on the open market.

 

[Belial]

Pretending he hasn’t been putrid in that “defensive” area you talk about for a large majority of this season. He’s demanding a role and money that real top 6 players get.

Can you somehow backup your biased opinion?

 

[Saundies]

Easy peasy. Let the market decide.

It's not easy man, that's the point. This man came out after the playoffs talking all kinds of ish. About his role, what he would accept, what he wouldn't. He bet on himself completely, which, althought admirable, has turned out to be very unwise. He turned down a 30 million dollar contract (wow, wtf MB) and clearly views himself as a great offensive player.

He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to go into this offseason and be like "well, guess I AM just a third line centre. I'll take a lot less money, thanks guys." He's still going to want to get paid. And I don't want the Habs to pay him.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

lololool imagine trying to make his first argument, where he doesn't come off emotionally inept and insinuates KK will play against AM34 in the playoffs. You do realize they were on together because Toronto tried to exploit him. Why do you think Julien put Lekhonen there along with Armia.

Lol, I asked a simple question of who will we want to play against AM34 in playoffs, nothing more. You might have missed it because you were blinded by rage seeing PD with that many minutes on the ice.

I'm not even trying to defend PD lmao, all I did was come in here and thank posters like yourself who bring me a good laugh

No more estate left in that in head thats forusre

Again, circle jerk with nothing worthy in it...wonder why no one takes anything you post seriously...

 

[Belial]

No I didn’t complain when in the playoffs he sucked so much that they eventually put him with Byron and Lehkonen, because that’s where he belongs. He doesn’t belong with good offensive wingers because plays die on his stick and his shot is as bad as Mete’s.

You have no clue what you're talking about! Just stop...