Chinatown88
1 year 1 month 1 day and counting
It's Howie. It's always fake money.
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JojoTheWhale
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Ok well, he does drop some balls.
But he’s got 4 years of consistently getting open including vs Man coverage and he cost functionally nothing.
SnS
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Ok well, he does drop some balls.
But he’s got 4 years of consistently getting open including vs Man coverage and he cost functionally nothing.
A drop or some are fine.
But hey he can get open. That’s better than pretty much everyone we had last year, outside of Thielan.
FatTugboatFlahr
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My gut says they still talk to Simmons; after Gay signed for 5M, don't think they're looking to LB in FA.
FLYguy3911
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Since it's coming from his agents I'm going to guess that's not real money or he never would have left.
Chinatown88
1 year 1 month 1 day and counting
I'll concede that Howie knows how to work the cap. The contracts are usually really good outside of a couple albatrosses.
JojoTheWhale
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Void Years.
It feels like this has to be low on guarantees, right? He played 3 games last year.
Love the player. I’m just talking about the contract market.
Chinatown88
1 year 1 month 1 day and counting
It's gotta be low guarantees with a crazy amount of void years. It's his trademark move.
Gregor Samsa
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I can never get used to the football offseason. It’s not quite as high of a roster turnover as the NBA but there are always good players released, traded or signed for cheap, some decent players getting crazy money, players who it felt like they were just rookies hitting free agency, weird creative accounting practices, and a whole bunch of other excitement
I have no idea what that is bb. NFL contracts feel like rocket science.
Chinatown88
1 year 1 month 1 day and counting
Don't worry about void years. Just focus on the CB class.
DancingPanther
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If NFL contracts are rocket science, NBA contracts are theoretical particle physics
JojoTheWhale
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The Eagles get creative to move cap hits far into the future because the cap only goes up.
FatTugboatFlahr
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JojoTheWhale
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DancingPanther
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Which btw I can't believe is legal. So much of these contract restructures that push salary out and pay via "bonus" etc etc is all such blatant cap manipulation lol
FatTugboatFlahr
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Chinatown88
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Flybynite
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philly_28
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It's a 3-year contract for CJGJ. On paper it's most likely a 7-year deal to push money into the 4-7 "fake" years. Then the contract voids in year 4 and the 4-7 "fake" years accelerate to year 4 as dead money.
So it helps in the first couple of years, but the bill will be due at some point. For example, we'll have a TON of dead money from Kelce and Cox this year AND next year due to these structures although they're both retired.
Flybynite
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CJGJ walking back in like George Costanza after quitting work like nothing happened lol.
DancingPanther
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Listen there is no morality here and even though I'll rip Howie he is a cap MASTER and for that I am very thankful and hope he continues to flex his power lol
philly_28
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Meh, it's really just creative accounting, pushing money into the future. Every last cent the players get will be reflected on the salary cap at some point though.
For example, we'll have a TON of dead money from Kelce and Cox this year AND next year due to these structures although they're both retired.
Yes, it does. The hit just comes in later years with these structures.
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