Prospect Info: Phantoms (AHL), Reading Royals (ECHL), NCAA, Jrs., Int'l, etc. [The Final 2022, First 2023 Edition]

[CutOnDime97]

Frozen Four

 

[deadhead]

He's a decent passer so when you have him hold the puck and dish it you have a poor man's Hayes. He was always a project and I think it's funny to see how everyone is higher on him now that he's gone. Man strength means a ton when you are 6'6 and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he blooms. I think the organization was out of patience with him and he is going to try and make an impression.

He may end up a bottom six forward, but he's 24, so if he needs another year of seasoning, won't make the NHL until at least 25. I don't think he'll be the last guy moved out of the system the next few months.

 

[Appleyard]

Nice to see Andrae doing some good things early on

Only 2 games but certainly so far making the AHL look like a step down from the SHL.

Though on a better SHL team he would have made a far bigger mark than the very big mark he made this year. He played like an SHL #1 D.

 

[mr4tno]

It would be the same pick, one round later, so #51 (19+32).
Probably 2024, there's an outside chance it could be 2023, but that's unlikely.
2023: 1st, (2) 3rd, 4th, (2) 5ths, (2) 6ths, 7th
2024: (2) 1sts, 2nd, 3rd. 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th
Now a couple trades before the draft could drastically change this.

What determines 2023? If he signs with another team before the draft or we relinquish his rights before the draft?

 

[Magua]

It's hard for me to get past Andrae having no escapability with his feet. He's statue-esque by function, especially in the o-zone. And space will close even faster in the NHL.

The Flyers have no long-term offensive defensemen in the organization, but they're operating on the assumption York/Andrae will both fill that role, so they're set. That thought process doesn't change if Flahr is running the amateur show. I throw my hands up.

 

[deadhead]

Doubt "they're" (who is that these days?) are operating on any assumption.
Briere has to work with what's in the organization, not some with list.

Andrae dominated Allsvenskan at 19, was a top SHL D-man at 20, tied for scoring lead for all 22U D-men with Wallender at 26 points (next was 16).

 

[Ghosts Beer]

Andrae may not have the explosive first step.

But for a 54th pick, feels like they may be getting more than their money’s worth.

He does a lot of good things. I think the Timonen comparisons are apt.

 

[Larry44]

It's hard for me to get past Andrae having no escapability with his feet. He's statue-esque by function, especially in the o-zone. And space will close even faster in the NHL.

The Flyers have no long-term offensive defensemen in the organization, but they're operating on the assumption York/Andrae will both fill that role, so they're set. That thought process doesn't change if Flahr is running the amateur show. I throw my hands up.

The lack of offensive D, RHS D except Attard, is a problem. Lack of a 1C prospect is just as bad.

 

[Curufinwe]

It's hard for me to get past Andrae having no escapability with his feet. He's statue-esque by function, especially in the o-zone. And space will close even faster in the NHL.

The Flyers have no long-term offensive defensemen in the organization

Fletcher was probably going to extend Angelo if he was still GM this summer. Just like with Risto, he wouldn't have wanted to admit he wasted multiple picks trading for a stop-gap player.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Not only am I mad penn state lost, but I’m mad again the Flyers don’t have Samoskevich

Call me stubborn, but I'll still take him over Owen all things considered.

 

[Larry44]

Call me stubborn, but I'll still take him over Owen all things considered.

Fletcher wanted Tippett because he actually felt the team was ready to compete. Hard to believe he was capable of dressing himself, let alone running a hockey team.

 

[pit]

Hard to believe he was capable of dressing himself, let alone running a hockey team.

Do we have evidence that he actually successfully did either on his own? Maybe Clarke dressed him too.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Fletcher wanted Tippett because he actually felt the team was ready to compete. Hard to believe he was capable of dressing himself, let alone running a hockey team.

or maybe Tippet was the best player of the bunch offered no?

 

[Curufinwe]

Tippet is a decent young player, and as we saw with Kane the return for even a HoF player can be significantly reduced by a NMC. If you want to look at actual mistakes Fletcher made as GM, there are plenty of those.

 

[deadhead]

Samoskevich had a nice sophomore season, but he's also on a loaded team.

Jury is still out whether he'll be as good as Tippett in the NHL.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Remember when all the peeps thought Anisomov would be on the Flyers roster.

 

[Tripod]

Remember when all the peeps thought Anisomov would be on the Flyers roster.

That's what happens when the peeps watch years and years of idiotic things happen. They assumed this would just be the next one in a long line.

Did you really think they added Anisimov and he would be in the AHL all season?

 

[blackjackmulligan]

That's what happens when the peeps watch years and years of idiotic things happen. They assumed this would just be the next one in a long line.

Did you really think they added Anisimov and he would be in the AHL all season?

nope

 

[Tripod]

nope

So you were one of the peeps that thought this was next on the dumb list of things the Flyers would do. It wasn't without reason.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

So you were one of the peeps that thought this was next on the dumb list of things the Flyers would do. It wasn't without reason.

Seeing what they had at center not sure it would have been dumb once he was healthy. Shit they rolled out brown tanner and what not.

 

[CutOnDime97]

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

In America you have programs like IMG Academy at the high school level. One of their ways of funding their program is finding kids with rich parents who want to buy their kids statuses in sports. They’ll then turn that money around to essentially build a state of the art like mini-college program which attracts the actual top high school talent which in turn attracts the college coaches.

But obviously there’s no universal ruling body over what high schools do athletically. IMG just did what power house high school sports programs have done around the country for a long time now but took it to a national scale instead of a more local one.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Least surprising thing. We have had parents in the past buy minor and junior teams to support their kids. Even happened in the OHL with Flint.

 

[Tripod]

Least surprising thing. We have had parents in the past buy minor and junior teams to support their kids. Even happened in the OHL with Flint.

My former boss did this at the Jr level.

Bought a JrB team and had his kid play there 2 years, won a championship

Then bought a JrA team and had his kid play there, also "bought" many former CHL players, won a championship, then sold it once his kid aged out.

He may have even hired a former NHL coach...lol.

 

[gertbfrobe16]

High Schools recruit players to move there and play for them alot. Berwick was famous for this in football for years. Malvern prep does this as well I believe.