Prospect Info: Phantoms (AHL), Reading Royals (ECHL), NCAA, Jrs., Int'l, etc. [The Fall 2022 Edition]

[BringBackHakstol]

A good bit.

Main point: they are not stylistically similar in any meaningful/tangible way. Charlie can’t help but show his ass when talking about prospects. Ridiculous comparisons, wonky pro projections, etc.

Can anyone tell a fellow Millman why Millman is still toiling away in the ECHL? He was a very useful/good junior player. They still very focused on “this boy needs to get bigger” type energy?

Because there is no room for him since we just had to keep roster spots for Seelsie and Brauner

 

[Magua]

Main point: they are not stylistically similar in any meaningful/tangible way. Charlie can’t help but show his ass when talking about prospects. Ridiculous comparisons, wonky pro projections, etc.

I lol'd. We can ignore that Draisaitl is one of the handful of best offensive players in the game. They don't physically resemble each other in body type or skating; Draisaitl, besides being a 50 goal scorer, is an elite passer, especially off his backhand, whereas Gauthier has never met a low % shot he wouldn't take.

Much as ceiling comparisons are usually bad, I'll try my hand: Alex Tuch? Bit better lower body, bit less size. But it's not like Gauthier is a dynamic speedster, despite some hype as such. He's in that long strider, fine mover category; good athletic looking buildup, average short area. I'd focus more on his puck control 1v1 and through traffic as a tangential skating positive. More than toe drags, he does have a tight puck handle.

 

[Rebels57]

Crazy to me he isn't getting an immediate call-up, while they ice the waiver brigade instead. He's 23 and has hit the ground running and is at worst the 2nd most skilled forward down there. I'm not even sure why he got so little run.

Torts has no use for "soft Euros"

 

[PDX Flyer]

Crazy to me he isn't getting an immediate call-up, while they ice the waiver brigade instead. He's 23 and has hit the ground running and is at worst the 2nd most skilled forward down there. I'm not even sure why he got so little run.

Hextall pick

 

[Curufinwe]

Charlie O’Connor said Gauthier has a little bit of Draisaitl to his game on the latest BSH radio lol

Skating issues? That's why Drai dropped to 4th.

 

[flyersnorth]

Nice to see the Phantoms on a bit of a hot streak. 6-3-0-1 in their last 10.

On the flipside, Flahr and Lappy love this guy... so much so, they basically forced him into the Flyers lineup. If the coach was anyone other than Torts, he'd probably still be on the big club.

 

[mr4tno]

Nice to see the Phantoms on a bit of a hot streak. 6-3-0-1 in their last 10.

On the flipside, Flahr and Lappy love this guy... so much so, they basically forced him into the Flyers lineup. If the coach was anyone other than Torts, he'd probably still be on the big club.


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More importantly, the younger guys are the ones contributing. downside is they are taking AA along for the ride so there will be even more pressure from Totarella to get his guy a contract.

 

[deadhead]

If they could dump Willman or Brown, I'd be happy with Anisimov coming up.
Right now they have two true centers on the roster, and Frost ain't exactly shining.
Hayes is better suited to the wing (same with Laughton when he returns), and Cates is learning on the job.
If you want to accelerate the development of young forwards, a veteran center isn't the worst thing in a rebuilding year.

I see no reason to rush the 20 year olds, wait until after the TDL when they can debut in a no pressure situation.
Meanwhile they get more PT and more practice time in the AHL.

 

[Beef Invictus]

If they could dump Willman or Brown, I'd be happy with Anisimov coming up.
Right now they have two true centers on the roster, and Frost ain't exactly shining.
Hayes is better suited to the wing (same with Laughton when he returns), and Cates is learning on the job.
If you want to accelerate the development of young forwards, a veteran center isn't the worst thing in a rebuilding year.

I see no reason to rush the 20 year olds, wait until after the TDL when they can debut in a no pressure situation.
Meanwhile they get more PT and more practice time in the AHL.

You'd be happy with them doing the opposite of what you assured us they'd do?

Of course.

 

[TB87]

Nice to see the Phantoms on a bit of a hot streak. 6-3-0-1 in their last 10.

On the flipside, Flahr and Lappy love this guy... so much so, they basically forced him into the Flyers lineup. If the coach was anyone other than Torts, he'd probably still be on the big club.


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They genuinely think bad players are good. This is an all too common occurrence with these bozos. A purge of the entire front office structure is warranted, needed, and loooong overdue.

 

[MiamiScreamingEagles]

 

[Magua]

Still don't know what to take away from a grip and rip from the top of the circles on a floppy fishing goalie. But the assist was pretty nice.

 

[FLYguy3911]

I watched exactly three minutes of that game before the Flyers and saw the assist and thought that was a nice development.

 

[dats81]

Does anyone track how many games he has dressed as Center vs. Wing this season so far?

 

[iceman42]

Does anyone track how many games he has dressed as Center vs. Wing this season so far?

Not even sure the NCAA keeps track of that.

 

[deadhead]

Toumaala on a hot streak, traded? to Kettera in the Mestis (think ECHL). 5 goals in 3 games.

Mestis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Curufinwe]

Since I couldn't watch the game last night, I caught up with the Saturday Phantoms game on my DVR and that Lycksell goal was stupendous.

 

[mr4tno]

Phantoms are on the NHL Network - 2nd intermission

 

[mr4tno]

Phantoms suck. Ian really leans on the veteran nobodies which, I guess, is why they suck. hey play the same system as the Flyers - Chase, but don't catch, the opponent.

 

[captainpaxil]

Lyksell is a guy I expect to see up in January. He's of an age to fit right in with frost tippet etc and having adjusted we'll be able to see what it is we've really got with him.
Despite the readiness or pedigree of either I think any warm body will get a chance at the center position before Foerster gets a shot at rw.
There's plenty to sort at the forward positions and a lot of corrections needed among the veterans but I think we will see a few of the d get some significant time with the big club as well

 

[macleish1974]

Crazy to me he isn't getting an immediate call-up, while they ice the waiver brigade instead. He's 23 and has hit the ground running and is at worst the 2nd most skilled forward down there. I'm not even sure why he got so little run.

LOL

 

[deadhead]

Lycksell will be up, missing two weeks due to injury didn't help his cause, he's just going through the transition from the SHL to NA ice - and he really only had one good season in the SHL, so he's not a finished product. He's got 237 SHL games under his belt, so it's not going to take long - but he's only played 12 games this season.

@Appleyard, has he played center in the SHL? The fact that he hasn't been tried at center in LHV suggests he's a wing.

When JVR returns, Farabee, JVR, Laughton, Bellows do you bring Lycksell up in a 4th line role?
TK, Atkinson, Hayes, Tippett, Allison at RW makes it unlikely Farabee plays RW.
So to open a spot in the top 9 for Lycksell, Hayes/Laughton would have to move back to center.

Which is probably why they're in no rush to promote Lycksell, then send him back down in a week or two when there's a logjam at forward. Makes sense to audition the older, more experienced players, decide which ones are keepers, then look at the "kids."
You yo-yo guys like J Cates, Willman and Brown. If Lycksell isn't going to play minutes in the NHL, he's better off on the 1st line in LHV.

If you could add a former Selke center and a hot shot rookie next year at center, this might be a good forward group.

 

[Beef Invictus]

Lycksell will be up, missing two weeks due to injury didn't help his cause, he's just going through the transition from the SHL to NA ice - and he really only had one good season in the SHL, so he's not a finished product. He's got 237 SHL games under his belt, so it's not going to take long - but he's only played 12 games this season.

@Appleyard, has he played center in the SHL? The fact that he hasn't been tried at center in LHV suggests he's a wing.

When JVR returns, Farabee, JVR, Laughton, Bellows do you bring Lycksell up in a 4th line role?
TK, Atkinson, Hayes, Tippett, Allison at RW makes it unlikely Farabee plays RW.
So to open a spot in the top 9 for Lycksell, Hayes/Laughton would have to move back to center.

Which is probably why they're in no rush to promote Lycksell, then send him back down in a week or two when there's a logjam at forward. Makes sense to audition the older, more experienced players, decide which ones are keepers, then look at the "kids."
You yo-yo guys like J Cates, Willman and Brown. If Lycksell isn't going to play minutes in the NHL, he's better off on the 1st line in LHV.

If you could add a former Selke center and a hot shot rookie next year at center, this might be a good forward group.

He will not be up unless a few more forwards get injured.

 

[mr4tno]

Lycksell will be up, missing two weeks due to injury didn't help his cause, he's just going through the transition from the SHL to NA ice - and he really only had one good season in the SHL, so he's not a finished product. He's got 237 SHL games under his belt, so it's not going to take long - but he's only played 12 games this season.

@Appleyard, has he played center in the SHL? The fact that he hasn't been tried at center in LHV suggests he's a wing.

When JVR returns, Farabee, JVR, Laughton, Bellows do you bring Lycksell up in a 4th line role?
TK, Atkinson, Hayes, Tippett, Allison at RW makes it unlikely Farabee plays RW.
So to open a spot in the top 9 for Lycksell, Hayes/Laughton would have to move back to center.

Which is probably why they're in no rush to promote Lycksell, then send him back down in a week or two when there's a logjam at forward. Makes sense to audition the older, more experienced players, decide which ones are keepers, then look at the "kids."
You yo-yo guys like J Cates, Willman and Brown. If Lycksell isn't going to play minutes in the NHL, he's better off on the 1st line in LHV.

If you could add a former Selke center and a hot shot rookie next year at center, this might be a good forward group.

How is log jam defined here? Is it number of bodies with a pulse or bodies than can actually play good hockey

 

[Appleyard]

Lycksell will be up, missing two weeks due to injury didn't help his cause, he's just going through the transition from the SHL to NA ice - and he really only had one good season in the SHL, so he's not a finished product. He's got 237 SHL games under his belt, so it's not going to take long - but he's only played 12 games this season.

@Appleyard, has he played center in the SHL? The fact that he hasn't been tried at center in LHV suggests he's a wing.

When JVR returns, Farabee, JVR, Laughton, Bellows do you bring Lycksell up in a 4th line role?
TK, Atkinson, Hayes, Tippett, Allison at RW makes it unlikely Farabee plays RW.
So to open a spot in the top 9 for Lycksell, Hayes/Laughton would have to move back to center.

Which is probably why they're in no rush to promote Lycksell, then send him back down in a week or two when there's a logjam at forward. Makes sense to audition the older, more experienced players, decide which ones are keepers, then look at the "kids."
You yo-yo guys like J Cates, Willman and Brown. If Lycksell isn't going to play minutes in the NHL, he's better off on the 1st line in LHV.

If you could add a former Selke center and a hot shot rookie next year at center, this might be a good forward group.

He never played C in the SHL. Probably 85% of games at LW and a few at RW.

He last played C in J20.