Player Discussion Peyton Krebs C/LW -- Re-signed 2 years, $1.45m AAV

[LongWayDown37]

Truly don’t think Krebs has been put in a position to succeed at all. He doesn’t belong at LW and he doesn’t belong on a 4th line. He’s a playmaking center. Problem is we have 3 C’s ahead of him playing better. It does seem like he would be better served playing top C minutes in Roch and coming in as an injury replacement if Tage/Cozens/Mitts misses time.

I think a lot of the reactions to him thus far has been pretty unfair. I don’t think he’s playing great - but it’s a square peg in a round hole. He’s not going to look good at 4th line LW.

I generally agree with this. I see him as a 100% natural center and really not a good winger at all. But we've got a numbers game down the middle.

 

[RhinoFan]

I generally agree with this. I see him as a 100% natural center and really not a good winger at all. But we've got a numbers game down the middle.

With Savoie en route, does this ever change?

 

[RefsIdeas]

With Savoie en route, does this ever change?

Savoie likely projects better at wing in the NHL. Ostlund is a natural center though.

 

[Fjordy]

Savoie likely projects better at wing in the NHL. Ostlund is a natural center though.

Not necessarily, he's decent defensively and can win faceoffs.

 

[GrierIsGod123]

I generally agree with this. I see him as a 100% natural center and really not a good winger at all. But we've got a numbers game down the middle.

I tend to agree that Krebs looks more natural in the middle. He seems to have trouble getting touches at wing, which a player like him needs in order to get engaged. There were a couple of times last year where Kreb's potential really shined, but believe it was mostly at C.

At some point, it might make sense to put him on a line at C and Cozens at W. I still think Cozens will be better and more dangerous as a winger in the NHL. He can be a bull on the boards and more of a straight-line Tuch type of player.

 

[RhinoFan]

Savoie likely projects better at wing in the NHL. Ostlund is a natural center though.

That's fair, as was mentioned he's decent defensively so I think we could get away with it, but still the list keeps going. Between him, Ostlund as you mentioned who is more of a natural center and Kulich who is another C/Wing hybrid, at least one should take a center spot...if not two. Just seems like too many cooks in the kitchen.

 

[RefsIdeas]

That's fair, as was mentioned he's decent defensively so I think we could get away with it, but still the list keeps going. Between him, Ostlund as you mentioned who is more of a natural center and Kulich who is another C/Wing hybrid, at least one should take a center spot...if not two. Just seems like too many cooks in the kitchen.

Yeah that’s all true. I’m mostly on an island I feel in saying that I believe Krebs can still be an effective player (2/3C kind of guy) - but when you look at who we have and who we have coming up, a move will have to be made eventually. Krebs does seem like a logical piece to ship out, but I don’t want to do so for pennies on the dollar when he still has so much potential.

 

[RhinoFan]

Yeah that’s all true. I’m mostly on an island I feel in saying that I believe Krebs can still be an effective player (2/3C kind of guy) - but when you look at who we have and who we have coming up, a move will have to be made eventually. Krebs does seem like a logical piece to ship out, but I don’t want to do so for pennies on the dollar when he still has so much potential.

I think I'm looking at the same sands lol, he's a middle 6er if it pans out, which is valuable and agreed, we should be retaining a player with his potential.

 

[HaNotsri]

Management will be patient but I'd be fine with him going to Rochester and not being the first call up.

Looks like their patience paid off already

 

[Jim Bob]

One year after trade to Sabres, Peyton Krebs is starting to find his way

Peyton Krebs has been getting guidance from veterans Alex Tuch and Kyle Okposo.

theathletic.com

 

[Matt Ress]

Glad to see Krebs starting to find his game.

 

[HaNotsri]

Looks like their patience paid off already

Nope

 

[Ness]

I’m willing to be patient with him, since hey, it’s a rebuilding year and all lol

 

[Djp]

Truly don’t think Krebs has been put in a position to succeed at all. He doesn’t belong at LW and he doesn’t belong on a 4th line. He’s a playmaking center. Problem is we have 3 C’s ahead of him playing better. It does seem like he would be better served playing top C minutes in Roch and coming in as an injury replacement if Tage/Cozens/Mitts misses time.

I think a lot of the reactions to him thus far has been pretty unfair. I don’t think he’s playing great - but it’s a square peg in a round hole. He’s not going to look good at 4th line LW.

i wanted him developing at center in rochester because he gets into better learning situations playing there than he would in buffalo.

maybe that happens once Girgs and Okposo are healthy.

 

[2 others]

maybe that happens once Girgs and Okposo are healthy.

Every coach has at least one player where you wonder why he treats him the way he does (see Krueger / Skinner as a negative example).
Granato and his treatment of Krebs is such a case, where everybody wonders why he isn't spending time in Rochester.

 

[old kummelweck]

Every coach has at least one player where you wonder why he treats him the way he does (see Krueger / Skinner as a negative example).
Granato and his treatment of Krebs is such a case, where everybody wonders why he isn't spending time in Rochester.

Granato isn't the one who decides who is up and who goes down, that's Adams.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

I don’t think he’s currently an NHL caliber player. Although I’m equally sure he will be.

 

[littletonhockeycoach]

Looks to me like mgmt was sold a bill of goods re: Krebs. Has yet to do anything to impress me or convince me he's a LT NHL keeper.

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

Looks to me like mgmt was sold a bill of goods re: Krebs. Has yet to do anything to impress me or convince me he's a LT NHL keeper.

I've been saying he's my least favorite of the young players and I don't see him being a major part of the roster. If a trade can be made to improve the D-corps, I hope Krebs is a piece the other team wants.

 

[Irie]

Looks to me like mgmt was sold a bill of goods re: Krebs. Has yet to do anything to impress me or convince me he's a LT NHL keeper.

I've been saying he's my least favorite of the young players and I don't see him being a major part of the roster. If a trade can be made to improve the D-corps, I hope Krebs is a piece the other team wants.

The thing with Krebs is that he reads the ice and uses the space better than the other centers on the team. When he has the puck, he skates away from the D and slows things down, while all the other forwards tend to either skate the puck toward defenders in an attacking fashion, or they skate it torward their own players, limiting options.

Krebs reads the spacing well and slows the game down, which does create space for his linemates. Unfortunately, Krebs tries to thread miracle passes for the big highlight play nearly everytime he has the puck instead of taking the space, drawing in defenders, and then making the safe pass/play.

The athletes are too good at the NHL level to sneak passes through two defenders. Someone will always get a stick on the play when you try that. I am certain it worked for him for years in Junior, but he has to adapt. Trying to make those passes 12 times a game results in 11 losses of possession typically, and causes a huge amount of frustration among the watching fans... like us in this thread

 

[toomuchsauce]

The thing with Krebs is that he reads the ice and uses the space better than the other centers on the team. When he has the puck, he skates away from the D and slows things down, while all the other forwards tend to either skate the puck toward defenders in an attacking fashion, or they skate it torward their own players, limiting options.

Krebs reads the spacing well and slows the game down, which does create space for his linemates. Unfortunately, Krebs tries to thread miracle passes for the big highlight play nearly everytime he has the puck instead of taking the space, drawing in defenders, and then making the safe pass/play.

The athletes are too good at the NHL level to sneak passes through two defenders. Someone will always get a stick on the play when you try that. I am certain it worked for him for years in Junior, but he has to adapt. Trying to make those passes 12 times a game results in 11 losses of possession typically, and causes a huge amount of frustration among the watching fans... like us in this thread

Rochester would be a great place for him to work on this. Be a leader, develop chemistry with some of the younger guys, etc.

 

[Snippit]

We are ruining his development. Give him consistent minutes in a scoring role and he will produce. His 5v5 game still needs work though so Rochester is a perfectly good option at this point.

 

[HaNotsri]

We are ruining his development. Give him consistent minutes in a scoring role and he will produce. His 5v5 game still needs work though so Rochester is a perfectly good option at this point.

Feels like ROR/Thompson 2.0 where we put a player in the lineup for optics instead of development.

If you want a player to become good in the NHL, let him dominate in the SHL/AHL/KHL first please.

 

[UnleashRasmus]

I still see this as the same thing with Middelstadt. Is everything going to happen at once, no. However, you see Casey is only 23, and now finally starting to produce. Krebs has a lot of upside, and is a quality skater. Just play your game.

 

[Fjordy]

and now finally starting to produce

Unfortunately only on PP