Friedman: Pettersson says he’ll only re-sign if Canucks have successful season

Montreal could offer:

Dach
Reinbacher
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1st in 2024


But I think a team like Detroit makes more sense, they are further down the rebuild and less pressure for poor Pertterson.

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1st in 2024
 
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Canucks have made the playoffs 1 time since Petey has been in the league...the bubble playoffs where the Canucks turned out to be a mirage

Oilers have made it 4 times...the situations aren't comparable at all

every year we hear the Canucks are supposed to "take the next step", and every year they managed to embarrass themselves
maybe Tocchet changes the fortunes of the team unlike "Bruce there it is" Boudreau...
Similar to how we hear every year that Edmonton will take the step to becoming a contender? These teams are at different stages but still struggling with the similar issues
 
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I mean success to him is just being in the hunt for a playoff spot right? He's been on a dumpster fire his whole career so don't blame him. I think Vancouver can challenge for a WC spot so maybe that is good enough success for him.
 
Montreal could offer:

Dach
Reinbacher
Xhekaj
1st in 2024
That's a pretty serious haul for a arbitration eligible RFA. Depending on how Dach looks and where that 1st round pick ends up, I'm not sure VAN can turn that down for a arbitration eligible RFA at the end of this season.
 
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That's a pretty serious haul for a arbitration eligible RFA. Depending on how Dach looks and where that 1st round pick ends up, I'm not sure VAN can turn that down for a arbitration eligible RFA at the end of this season.
He would have to be extended long term for a heavy payment to be made. And a 1st carries huge risk.
 
No surprises and completely understandable. It’s basically make the 2nd round or bust. The 1st round pick will be traded by the deadline, possibly for a RHD like Pesce.
 
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Pettersson apparently will only sign with Vancouver if tbey have a good season, so he’ll definately extend with…Montreal?

Not really a knock but that doesn’t make much sense.
That's fair - but taking Petersson out of the conversation, Montreal has a way better core already in place and can afford him, I think it's reasonably fair to say the direction they're heading is clearer than the nonsense EP has been a part of since he was drafted. Also not meant as a knock, Vancouver has been a zoo
 
That's fair - but taking Petersson out of the conversation, Montreal has a way better core already in place and can afford him, I think it's reasonably fair to say the direction they're heading is clearer than the nonsense EP has been a part of since he was drafted. Also not meant as a knock, Vancouver has been a zoo
That is highly debatable. Also, I don't see a single reason why EP would leave Vancouver for teams like Montreal or Detroit. If he's getting moved he will likely say he will only sign with a select handful of teams, likely good teams. That will also reduce his value a bit. Almost every single Playoff team/contender would try to make room for a guy like EP.
 
That is highly debatable. Also, I don't see a single reason why EP would leave Vancouver for teams like Montreal or Detroit. If he's getting moved he will likely say he will only sign with a select handful of teams, likely good teams. That will also reduce his value a bit. Almost every single Playoff team/contender would try to make room for a guy like EP.
I think you'd be hard pressed in that debate. Hughes, Demko, Hronek and a handful of good vets vs Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle and a way, way deeper crop of young players.

I absolutely think if Petersson is picking destinations to sign long term in he'd look at teams that could very quickly become contenders with him in the fold and not just the current top teams in the league, that would be short sighted
 
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Most fans seem numb to the idea of Hughes/Pettersson leaving. This core hasn’t worked out to this point, time to go full rebuild!

When the Sedins were 24 years old, we didn't really have much going on either. We built around them and the rest of our core for the next 6 years before we were able to build a true contender, but we were a "playoff team" consistently with them as our core when they turned 26. It was a slightly different time then as we were moving from old core to new core much quicker, but the concept is the same. We now have the right pieces, and now we have to build around them.

The difference here is we need to show Pettersson enough that he wants to commit to being here for another 6 years or so at minimum so that we can do that. I would say that Vancouver's window of playoff relevance with this core is just starting to open, it would be kind of a stupid time for him to leave. He could jump ship and go to another team that is better now, but has a shorter window, but I don't think that will get him much further ahead.

I think the smart move for Pettersson would be to stay put. The grass isn't always greener. Sure, there are some dynasty style teams out there, but in the salary cap era that isn't the norm. Being a key cog on a team with your playoff window opening seems like a good position to be in at his age. If he wants to, after he has secured some more money, he can chase a cup as a mercenary in his 30s.
 
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I think you'd be hard pressed in that debate. Hughes, Demko, Hronek and a handful of good vets vs Suzuki, Caufield, Dach, Guhle and a way, way deeper crop of young players.

I absolutely think if Petersson is picking destinations to sign long term in he'd look at teams that could very quickly become contenders with him in the fold and not just the current top teams in the league, that would be short sighted
Montreal is not anywhere close to becoming a quick contender lmao. Hughes is better than any player in Montreal's system by a large margin and Demko plays one of the most important positions which also happens to be a weakpoint for Montreal.
 
I mean success to him is just being in the hunt for a playoff spot right? He's been on a dumpster fire his whole career so don't blame him. I think Vancouver can challenge for a WC spot so maybe that is good enough success for him.
This is what I would assume. I would say overall Pettersson is very happy in Vancouver but he wants to win, got a glimpse of that in the 2020 playoffs and was willing to sign a long term deal... but Benning being Benning had to take care of signing guys like Tanner Pearson and Tucker Poolman to lucrative deals leaving no flexibility for Pettersson & Hughes so it was a 3 year contract for the former.

So following that playoff run it's been 3 seasons being out of the playoffs by the deadline which can't be fun for a competitive guy. This is going to be a long term commitment so as long as the Canucks are moving in the right direction and competitive till the end of the season, I don't think it needs to be a playoff or bust to get him to sign long term.
 
If Pettersson truly forces a trade, 31 other teams will all have the assets/cap space to trade for him. Some of the trades would be ugly, but that’s what you get when a player knowingly is gone

None of the trades will be ugly. Pettersson is a RFA with zero trade restrictions. If it did get to the point he wants out, we can simply force arbitration on him for another year or two. He has zero leverage here except to out us out, which will take years.

This hypothetical is essentially PLD all over again. Despite what a lot of people thought, myself included to be fair, Winnipeg did very well.
 
Carolina is already one of the most likeable teams in the league, but this move would be amazing if they can pull it off
I rate it as being quite unlikely for a myriad of reasons but it wouldn't surprise me either. Canes have been trying to make a big splash for a proven top tier forward for a little while now, missing out on Eichel, Tkachuk (Meier too although I don't have him in the same tier) for instance. They won't force a bad deal but if it can work out they will go for it. And I do believe the team has the assets to make it happen, it would hurt but acquiring a stud like EP is always going to hurt in the return. And probably worth it for a long term C group consisting of Aho, EP and Kotkaniemi.
 
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Carolina should be going hard after this type of deal

They have built from the defense for a while, time to add a superstar top 15ish player at C.
I agree but looking at how Carolina acquires players, it’s just not in their DNA to give up good young pieces for a bigger piece. But a package of peace, necas and a protected 1st is a good baseline
 
None of the trades will be ugly. Pettersson is a RFA with zero trade restrictions. If it did get to the point he wants out, we can simply force arbitration on him for another year or two. He has zero leverage here except to out us out, which will take years.

This hypothetical is essentially PLD all over again. Despite what a lot of people thought, myself included to be fair, Winnipeg did very well.
The package would undoubtedly be huge but I don't see a single scenario where Vancouver wins giving up a 25 year old EP. Massive gap between him and PLD. A potential Hart/Selke candidate compared to a decent 2C.
 

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