Friedman: Pettersson says he’ll only re-sign if Canucks have successful season

[westc2]

I wish more players had this attitude. It discourages tanking and makes teams actually want to try to make the playoffs every season instead of just waiting around until they build up enough top prospects to actually start trying.

 

[Three On Zero]

Tougher tax environment, but some players like the passion and love for the game. Generalizing and sounding like sling blade doesn't help your statement.

Results help my statement, that we have plenty of.

 

[CascadiaPuck]

Lots of weird takes here. And wishful thinking about what it would take to land RFA Pettersson. (Stop offering older wingers please, especially if they’re approaching UFA.)

If he’s healthy, I expect him to push to 100pts again and land a Selke nom. He’s 24. The Canucks will do all they can to sign him to a big number on a long term. And if they can’t, he will get a haul.

 

[Caboose]

This could be interpreted in a bunch of ways. At face value I don't mind it at all. We will see what happens with the contract. If Canucks have a good season I expect him to take a discount like JT to help build a winner. If he tries to milk every dollar then the comments mean nothing.

Just look at Horvat. Dude said he wanted to be a canuck for life and to win but really he just wanted the biggest bag possible. A lot of these guys don't actually care about winning as #1 priority. Good riddance to Bo he showed his true colors.

I love what Petey says, but when the time comes he better put his pocket book where his mouth is and show how important winning is like so many greats that came before him.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

I wish more players had this attitude. It discourages tanking and makes teams actually want to try to make the playoffs every season instead of just waiting around until they build up enough top prospects to actually start trying.

I don’t really have a problem with teams tanking. When they get to the point where the competitive window is closed and their assets don’t hold enough value to even do a decent re-tool then go ahead and tank. Most often the other option is to stay mired in mediocrity, a situation that holds zero appeal to many.

 

[PROUD PAPA]

I love what Petey says, but when the time comes he better put his pocket book where his mouth is and show how important winning is like so many greats that came before him.

What number would indicate to you he has prioritized winning over his wallet?

 

[DavidpauseReinbacher]

This could be interpreted in a bunch of ways. At face value I don't mind it at all. We will see what happens with the contract. If Canucks have a good season I expect him to take a discount like JT to help build a winner. If he tries to milk every dollar then the comments mean nothing.

Just look at Horvat. Dude said he wanted to be a canuck for life and to win but really he just wanted the biggest bag possible. A lot of these guys don't actually care about winning as #1 priority. Good riddance to Bo he showed his true colors.

I love what Petey says, but when the time comes he better put his pocket book where his mouth is and show how important winning is like so many greats that came before him.

So he should do canucks a favor so they can sign more avg bums like garland and Mikheyev? Nah i rather take money.

 

[Caboose]

Under 10.5 mil would be a discount to me for Petterson.

If you want to build a powerhouse consistent winning team there needs to be surplus value on contracts all throughout the lineup. Just because there is a Tyler Myers from a previous GM doesn't mean there needs to be a continuance of overpaid or unproductive players. The winning culture has to start somewhere, I believe it can start with Petey and Hughes.

If thats truly #1 priority then show it, but there also has to be congruence between the player and management. If Petey has no faith in Allvin then it's disingenuous to expect him to sacrifice for a greater good. If the team shows up this year and the vision is in alignment with Peterson then I fully expect a player like him to take a discount and not milk the Canucks for every single dollar the way a Mathews is doing.

 

[dugg133]

Under 10.5 mil would be a discount to me for Petterson.

If you want to build a powerhouse consistent winning team there needs to be surplus value on contracts all throughout the lineup. Just because there is a Tyler Myers from a previous GM doesn't mean there needs to be a continuance of overpaid or unproductive players. The winning culture has to start somewhere, I believe it can start with Petey and Hughes.

If thats truly #1 priority then show it, but there also has to be congruence between the player and management. If Petey has no faith in Allvin then it's disingenuous to expect him to sacrifice for a greater good. If the team shows up this year and the vision is in alignment with Peterson then I fully expect a player like him to take a discount and not milk the Canucks for every single dollar the way a Mathews is doing.

Anything under 12mil would be a discount for Pettersson if he can repeat what he did last season going forward. If he can do that is the big question though.

 

[CascadiaPuck]

Anything under 12mil would be a discount for Pettersson if he can repeat what he did last season going forward. If he can do that is the big question though.

I agree. If the Canucks can sign him to an 8 year deal under 12M AAV, they should. It will seem like great value soon enough, especially as other deals get signed.

 

[Caboose]

I agree. If the Canucks can sign him to an 8 year deal under 12M AAV, they should. It will seem like great value soon enough, especially as other deals get signed.

I agree with you in merit, I believe he is worth the Pasta deal, but drawing from history of what past greats have sacrificed to be a part of a juggernaut winning team I would think a discount to that purpose would look like 10.5 or less AAV. If winning a cup is truly the #1 biggest priority. Petey has the chance to set the tone for what the next decade of Canuck hockey could look like with the passionless OEL/Horvat leadership long gone.

 

[DavidpauseReinbacher]

I agree. If the Canucks can sign him to an 8 year deal under 12M AAV, they should. It will seem like great value soon enough, especially as other deals get signed.

He def no signing 8 lol

 

[CascadiaPuck]

He def no signing 8 lol

Who said he was signing 8? If I had to bet, I’d guess he signs for 5 or 6. That is, if the Canucks do well enough this year to meet his standard.

I agree with you in merit, I believe he is worth the Pasta deal, but drawing from history of what past greats have sacrificed to be a part of a juggernaut winning team I would think a discount to that purpose would look like 10.5 or less AAV. If winning a cup is truly the #1 biggest priority. Petey has the chance to set the tone for what the next decade of Canuck hockey could look like with the passionless OEL/Horvat leadership long gone.

Hey - I would love that cap hit. Especially on a longer deal. That would be great.

 

[ponder]

Thread title should be changed, it’s subtly deceptive:

> Friedman: Pettersson says he’ll only re-sign if Canucks have successful season

When you listen to the clip, Friedman never actually quotes Petey - it’s a whole lot of “I think”, “I believe”, etc. It’s Friedman’s opinion on what Petey is thinking, extrapolated from various rumblings/rumours/whatever (Friedman never gets into why he holds these beliefs).

Better thread title IMO:

> Friedman: I think Pettersson will only re-sign if Canucks have successful season

 

[Pure West]

I think its pretty simple. He doesn't want to spend his prime years playing on a rebuilding team. The Canucks appear to be trying to compete now, but its certainly not unfathomable that the team stumbles out of the gate and some instability rocks the organization (again!). This is far from a sure thing that is being built here and management might have to pull the plug and rebuild if they continue to falter.

If he signs a big extension before the season starts:

- He wouldn't have trade protection
- He may hurt his value by playing on a dumpster fire team, and make him difficult to trade, and get stuck.
- He loses control of the process

Should things really go bad, the best course of action for him may be to not sign, and either request a trade in the offseason, or sign for a year and become a UFA in 2025.

 

[Three On Zero]

You better walk Pettersson, don’t let me down

 

[Mr Positive]

He's impending RFA so it's not a huge deal. The worst case scenario is an offer sheet or a trade request. If he wants the trade option, I bet the Canucks could get away with a short term deal of 1-2 years instead. That gives some time to develop the team some more. Pettersson is the type that he'd agree to this, and give the Canucks another chance.

And if that big offer sheet comes, just sign it.

 

[DavidpauseReinbacher]

Who said he was signing 8? If I had to bet, I’d guess he signs for 5 or 6. That is, if the Canucks do well enough this year to meet his standard.


Hey - I would love that cap hit. Especially on a longer deal. That would be great.

Carson soucy standard?

 

[Three On Zero]

He's impending RFA so it's not a huge deal. The worst case scenario is an offer sheet or a trade request. If he wants the trade option, I bet the Canucks could get away with a short term deal of 1-2 years instead. That gives some time to develop the team some more. Pettersson is the type that he'd agree to this, and give the Canucks another chance.

And if that big offer sheet comes, just sign it.

Highly competitive player who wants to be part of the solution and not stagnate. If he stays he will go to AM route and take shortest contracts

 

[ponder]

He's impending RFA so it's not a huge deal. The worst case scenario is an offer sheet or a trade request. If he wants the trade option, I bet the Canucks could get away with a short term deal of 1-2 years instead. That gives some time to develop the team some more. Pettersson is the type that he'd agree to this, and give the Canucks another chance.

And if that big offer sheet comes, just sign it.

If Petey wants to become a UFA, he’d just have to wait 1 extra year. His RFA deal expires next offseason, and yes he’s still an RFA, but he’s 1 year from UFA eligibility, and arbitration eligible.

So next offseason, he could say “I’m not signing shit, we’re going to arbitration,” then get a 1 year arb deal, then become a UFA.

I’m not saying he WILL do this, but it’s an option for him. His situation is very, very close to a UFA situation.

 

[Mr Positive]

If Petey wants to become a UFA, he’d just have to wait 1 extra year. His RFA deal expires next offseason, and yes he’s still an RFA, but he’s 1 year from UFA eligibility, and arbitration eligible.

So next offseason, he could say “I’m not signing shit, we’re going to arbitration,” then get a 1 year arb deal, then become a UFA.

I’m not saying he WILL do this, but it’s an option for him. His situation is very, very close to a UFA situation.

So okay, Vancouver should do that. Do whatever it takes to keep him even if it means walking him to UFA just to buy that other year. If the team catches fire, he will re sign long term. He loves it there but wants wins.

There is another path there too. If nothing improves and UFA status is looming, facilitate a sign and trade

 

[ricky0034]

I wish more players had this attitude. It discourages tanking and makes teams actually want to try to make the playoffs every season instead of just waiting around until they build up enough top prospects to actually start trying.

dudes an RFA for several more years

that's how you end up like the NBA where players ask the small market teams that drafted them for a trade to a bigger market and the teams only questions are which one and what they're allowed to ask for in return

 

[Hisch13r]

This isn’t the worst thing in the world. Would garner a monster package and has no trade protection. The team is certainly better run now than with Benning but who knows.

Package would start with a recently drafted top pick, 1st, additional pieces…

The only thing, if they move EP then would they finally have to rebuild?

He does have trade protection. The protection is no one will trade for him if he won’t sign

 

[Qwijibo]

dudes an RFA for several more years

that's how you end up like the NBA where players ask the small market teams that drafted them for a trade to a bigger market and the teams only questions are which one and what they're allowed to ask for in return

He's eligible for UFA status after next season. I wouldn't call 2 seasons "several"

 

[ricky0034]

He's eligible for UFA status after next season. I wouldn't call 2 seasons "several"

I mean if we really wanna get technical with it it's actually 3 seasons if he doesn't sign a contract next offseason since the only reason it's 2 is because he'll hit the 7 season threshold