Friedman: Pettersson says he’ll only re-sign if Canucks have successful season

[Antti]

Translation:
Pettersson won't re-sign

 

[tilly123123]

Pettersson is not M Tkachuk, nor is he Matthews. He doesn’t need to sign now. He obviously want more money, probably longer term. Why would he leave millions on the table when he believes he can be better? He won’t be asking for the whole cake ala Matthews. But we’re talking 5-8 million more on a long term contract. If he wasn’t saying anything I’d believe he’s going the Tkachuk route but EP has better character than that. So y’all can stop dreaming of having him on your team.

Plus this is Friedman in the dog days of summer, Friedman! If you dreamers wouldn’t mind, please link us where EP said this.

 

[Pavels Dog]

Rantanen + for Petey from Colorado. Thoughts?

- Why would Colorado trade Rantanen
- Why would Rantanen not have Vancouver on his NTC
- Why would Vancouver want a Rantanen with 1 year left to UFA
- Can Colorado make the cap work?
- What is the '+' (Colorado doesn't have much young talent and their picks are low value)

 

[Fatass]

Pettersson is not matt Tkachuk, nor is he Matthews. He doesn’t need to sign now. He obviously want more money, probably longer term. Why would he leave millions on the table when he believes he can be better? He won’t be asking for the whole cake ala Matthews. But we’re talking 5-8 million more on a long term contract. If he wasn’t saying anything I’d believe he’s going the Tkachuk route but EP has better character than that. So y’all can stop dreaming of having him on your team.

But if the Canucks do have to move Petey I’m hoping it’s not for the kind of return the Flames got for Tkatchuk.

 

[tilly123123]

But if the Canucks do have to move Petey I’m hoping it’s not for the kind of return the Flames got for Tkatchuk.

IF they did, the Canucks would sadly totally do something like that.

 

[Youngguns1380]

Taking short term deals will be the trend now for superstars to maximize their Earnings. Like the NBA players, finally waking up and seeing how much money they are leaving on the table when the cap goes up, and still locked in cheap long term deals on bad teams to go with it.

Petts should use his leverage on the Canucks to go out and be competitive.

Please don’t compare the NHL to the NBA. The NBA could disappear tomorrow and I wouldn’t care. The reasoning is the NBA set the standard for all about me and that is what’s wrong with the NBA

 

[PensandCaps]

Please don’t compare the NHL to the NBA. The NBA could disappear tomorrow and I wouldn’t care. The reasoning is the NBA set the standard for all about me and that is what’s wrong with the NBA

Such Incoherent nonsense lol.

I guess wanting to be paid fairly by the billionaire owners is a bad thing and "all about me" mentality.

 

[kmwtrucks]

Pettersson is not M Tkachuk, nor is he Matthews. He doesn’t need to sign now. He obviously want more money, probably longer term. Why would he leave millions on the table when he believes he can be better? He won’t be asking for the whole cake ala Matthews. But we’re talking 5-8 million more on a long term contract. If he wasn’t saying anything I’d believe he’s going the Tkachuk route but EP has better character than that. So y’all can stop dreaming of having him on your team.

Plus this is Friedman in the dog days of summer, Friedman! If you dreamers wouldn’t mind, please link us where EP said this.

EP is really in the driver seat. worse case scenario he gets 10.25 mil in 24-25 and is a UFA in 2025 when the cap should be at 90 mil. he would be 26 years old. If he waits it out 2 years he will get Matthews money. My guess is Canucks are probably offering 8 at $11. and if he plays on QO and goes UFA he probably gets 7 X 13 on top of 10.25 next year. over the same 8 year span he would get a extra 13.25 mil. CAT and Mier had High QO on there final year and they were really able to dicatate where they wanted to go. and it really hurts your return.

 

[mkatcherin00]

I can't stand when people compare the nba to the nhl. This "superstars are realizing to take more, etc" is just people making excuses for Matthew's greed.

NBA salary cap is 130 million. 165 million next year. With smaller rosters

Sure NHL stars can rape their teams. It will mean less depth and most likely zero cups

NBA players have a much more higher impact than an NHL player. Pure lazy rubbish talking about doing what nba players do

 

[kmwtrucks]

I can't stand when people compare the nba to the nhl. This "superstars are realizing to take more, etc" is just people making excuses for Matthew's greed.

NBA salary cap is 130 million. 165 million next year. With smaller rosters

Sure NHL stars can rape their teams. It will mean less depth and most likely zero cups

NBA players have a much more higher impact than an NHL player. Pure lazy rubbish talking about doing what nba players do

everyone of my employee's has the right to ask for what ever they think they are worth if its market value but for what ever reason I dont want to pay it I encourage them to go get the money from some where else. most solid NHL players probably make over 2/3 there life income in 10 years. you can leave a few $ on the table. maybe 5% but anymore then that just does not make financial sense. matthews deal was about what I expected and was fair. he is going to be 30 when he finishes his next contract and 31 when he starts his next contract. what if he strings some 30-35 goal seasons together over the next few years or has a ACL injury. his next contract maybe less then this one. the fact that the next contract is going to be for years that usually show a pretty big decline I think its a good deal for TOR.

 

[Zynbanejad]

Love made him crazy. And if it didn't, he ain't doin it right.

I was like huh that sounds familiar. Shout out to my wife for always bumping Taylor Swift lol

 

[Stickpucker]

What cap space is Van going to use to upgrade their roster?

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

If I were Elias Pettersson, I wouldn't re-sign with the Vancouver Canucks simply because JT Miller is such a bozo.

 

[Peter Griffin]

What cap space is Van going to use to upgrade their roster?

They have about $13M opening up this offseason with Myers, Beauvillier and Pearson contracts expiring alone. EP/Hronek will eat up about half that with no other notable RFA’s to re-sign. They also have another $5M in Blueger/Cole that could be repurposed plus whatever the cap increase is.

 

[General Disarray]

Canadian teams do it to themselves by constantly higher below average personnel to fill key management positions. This ain’t a CBA/salary cap issue. It’s a poorly managed team issue

Both can be true. Canadian teams have bad management/ownership... But they are also at a disadvantage when it comes to keeping/luring players.

 

[Stickpucker]

They have about $13M opening up this offseason with Myers, Beauvillier and Pearson contracts expiring alone. EP/Hronek will eat up about half that with no other notable RFA’s to re-sign. They also have another $5M in Blueger/Cole that could be repurposed plus whatever the cap increase is.

I'm talking about for the 23-24 season that they need to make the playoffs.

 

[strattonius]

Pettersson and his agent are leveraging the rising CAP next year to land a bigger paycheque. And on top of that Pettersson made it known he was unhappy while Benning was GM - it was the worst managed team in hockey over Benning's 8 yrs and the organization almost rotted out.

There has certainly been some turnaround and the Canucks have a lot that can go right for next season but at the end of the day it's no more excuses time. The Canucks push for a playoff position and see positive results or Pettersson forces his way out. I think the Canucks are looking good for next year but I understand when fans throw shade it's been a long time since the Canucks have been relevant.

 

[OilersFanatics505]

- Why would Colorado trade Rantanen
- Why would Rantanen not have Vancouver on his NTC
- Why would Vancouver want a Rantanen with 1 year left to UFA
- Can Colorado make the cap work?
- What is the '+' (Colorado doesn't have much young talent and their picks are low value)

- why would Colorado pay that for our second line center?

 

[HabsAddict]

I hope Petey gets as much as some Van fans think he is worth in a trade.

16.3x8 sounds great.

 

[dubey]

Unfortunately this seems like an impossible feat for Vancouver. I wonder where Pettersson ends up next season

 

[cfj007]

Canadian teams do it to themselves by constantly higher below average personnel to fill key management positions. This ain’t a CBA/salary cap issue. It’s a poorly managed team issue

Tougher tax environment, but some players like the passion and love for the game. Generalizing and sounding like sling blade doesn't help your statement.

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

Unfortunately this seems like an impossible feat for Vancouver. I wonder where Pettersson ends up next season

Vancouver. They will make him the highest paid player in hockey with a contract length 3-4 seasons. They still won’t compete for anything. Rinse and repeat this process in 3-4 years.

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Tougher tax environment, but some players like the passion and love for the game. Generalizing and sounding like sling blade doesn't help your statement.

The poster you're quoting was talking about Canadian organizations making "sub-par" hiring GM decisions. Looking at guys like Benning & Chiarelli who set their organizations back hugely by making short sighted deals seems like a pretty easy case to make IMO.

 

[POVERTY]

Boston, meet your Bergeron replacement

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

Pettersson and his agent are leveraging the rising CAP next year to land a bigger paycheque. And on top of that Pettersson made it known he was unhappy while Benning was GM - it was the worst managed team in hockey over Benning's 8 yrs and the organization almost rotted out.

There has certainly been some turnaround and the Canucks have a lot that can go right for next season but at the end of the day it's no more excuses time. The Canucks push for a playoff position and see positive results or Pettersson forces his way out. I think the Canucks are looking good for next year but I understand when fans throw shade it's been a long time since the Canucks have been relevant.

This is very well said IMO. EP put his cards on the table, which I appreciate, even if I wish it had been kept private instead of doing so publicly. You can't blame a player for wanting to see results when the organization had made some really poor decisions that hampered it's ability to compete. And while IMO it's fair to say "It's Benning's fault" - the organization (ownership/Senior Leadership) put him in charge and have to take accountability for that. Can't blame EP for wanting a chance to seriously compete which hasn't been the case for most of his NHL career so far.

Only thing I would say is that I don't think EP is leveraging the raising cap. EP's going to get paid a ridiculous amount on 7/1/2025 regardless. If it was just about the $'s, I think he tells the Canucks what that number is, and they make it work.