Peterborough Petes 2022-23 Season Thread

[Bra Wavers]

That would be the same for every team though. The teams who are scoring against us now also still havbe time to develop chemistry and lock into there systems. But most of the Petes have been here multiple years now or are veterans in the leageu. We should be picking up systyems faster then most teams


If i guessed id say the OA is a forward. Agree on the backup goalie but none of the goalies you named would be a backup. If they got any of them simpson would be the backup.

If your the GM would you take the bad press hti that Mailloux would come with? Youd be openly saying that winning is more important then being a bad human being

You are correct.
If the Petes were to add Brochu, Lennox or Zhigalov they would not be a "backup". They would share the net with Simpson for the rest of the season and then go with the hot hand come playoff time. I can't really see another non-OA trade option who is solid enough and will be available but come the trade deadline that may change.

As far as Mailloux goes, he appears to be working hard to make amends. He asked not to be drafted, served his suspension and is doing everything he can to show that he is sorry and has learned from his mistake.
What Mailloux did was horrible and this story will follow him wherever he goes but with time the conversation will be about his play on the ice as well as using his situation to educate players (and young men in general) about appropriate behaviour when it comes to women.

 

[Square Corners]

What is going on with Stillman right now? To many dumb penalties and only 1 goal

 

[Bra Wavers]

What is going on with Stillman right now? To many dumb penalties and only 1 goal

Stillman is effective when he plays aggressively with grit.
I agree that he needs to stop crossing the line and taking those unnecessary penalties.
I wish he would play more like Tucker Robertson - a consistent motor that never stops, always working hard and winning more puck battles than he loses. Stillman lacks consistency and he seems to mope when things don't go his way. When things don't go Robertson's way he just puts his head down, digs in and works harder.

 

[I Loveallsports]

Stillman is effective when he plays aggressively with grit.
I agree that he needs to stop crossing the line and taking those unnecessary penalties.
I wish he would play more like Tucker Robertson - a consistent motor that never stops, always working hard and winning more puck battles than he loses. Stillman lacks consistency and he seems to mope when things don't go his way. When things don't go Robertson's way he just puts his head down, digs in and works harder.

That's the the way he was in Sudbury as well. Bad attitude selfish player. Good riddance.

 

[Bra Wavers]

Nice win by the Petes tonight. A few thoughts.....

- Guryev was great tonight for the 49 seconds he lasted Tough call on the head check. I think he got the shoulder first, but his reputation doesn't help and Stewart didn't return. I hope he's OK. The only good news is that the fight will not count as Guryev's 3rd because he was instigated upon.

- The other 5 Dmen left played a solid game. McCoy was great and IMO will be a future Petes captain - so well-spoken in his interview between periods. The NHL scouts will be drooling over him this year.

- Simpson played a tidy game tonight stopping 27 of 28 shots and increasing his overall GAA to 0.920

- The return of Dubois makes a huge difference to the depth of the lineup. He centers the 3rd line with DeZoete and Melee on the wings, goes 13/19 on faceoffs, and was a +2.

- After only 1 assist in the 3 game northern road trip, Tucker Robertson bounces back scoring twice tonight, including his 2nd GWG this season.

- The Petes were patient tonight - their speed + physical play should wear many teams down over the course of 60 minutes which will result in more quality scoring chances/PPs/momentum as the game wears on.

- Hopefully the Petes can maintain this momentum on the road tomorrow night in Kingston, with Sztuska likely getting the start.

 

[Generalsupdates]

- Guryev was great tonight for the 49 seconds he lasted Tough call on the head check. I think he got the shoulder first, but his reputation doesn't help and Stewart didn't return. I hope he's OK. The only good news is that the fight will not count as Guryev's 3rd because he was instigated upon.

Watched the full game tonight because I had a pretty big bet on the Petes (thanks) and thought Avon looks way better than he did last year.

The Guryev hit wasn't a hit to the head but it was blindsiding. But as I said to @Petes, what big hit isn't blindsiding by definition? If the guy saw the big hit coming, he would've moved before it was delivered

 

[Petes1987]

Watched the full game tonight because I had a pretty big bet on the Petes (thanks) and thought Avon looks way better than he did last year.

The Guryev hit wasn't a hit to the head but it was blindsiding. But as I said to @Petes, what big hit isn't blindsiding by definition? If the guy saw the big hit coming, he would've moved before it was delivered

It might have been a borderline blindsiding but the penalty called was a 5 minute major head check penalty and repeated replays showed he hit him on the shoulder. In my view Guryev will not be suspended.

 

[ptbopete]

Great game by the Petes, best effort all year. We won most puck battles rarely giving Kingston a chance to make plays. I agree with others here that Avon keeps improving and at another level this year using his speed and has more tenacity. Dubois was absolutely good to have back adding good depth up front. Everyone was playing with more of a purpose including Panwar, Dezoete and Melee. Anyone can break out at any point and I'm looking for Lardis to have a good run, he has so much talent. But I love the top three lines right now, guys aren't getting tired from being out there too much.

As for Guryev, thought it was a clean shoulder-to-shoulder hit. The puck was passed to Stewart and he was on it when Guryev caught him with his head down. I kinda wish Guryev would lay off a little on those hits. He can still knock an opponent down but doesn't have to go right through them. Refs are going to call Guryev as often as they can because if his reputation. I don't understand how the refs after reviewing the Guryev hit, could have seen a head check when it just wasn't there.

 

[snipes29]

Great game by the Petes, best effort all year. We won most puck battles rarely giving Kingston a chance to make plays. I agree with others here that Avon keeps improving and at another level this year using his speed and has more tenacity. Dubois was absolutely good to have back adding good depth up front. Everyone was playing with more of a purpose including Panwar, Dezoete and Melee. Anyone can break out at any point and I'm looking for Lardis to have a good run, he has so much talent. But I love the top three lines right now, guys aren't getting tired from being out there too much.

As for Guryev, thought it was a clean shoulder-to-shoulder hit. The puck was passed to Stewart and he was on it when Guryev caught him with his head down. I kinda wish Guryev would lay off a little on those hits. He can still knock an opponent down but doesn't have to go right through them. Refs are going to call Guryev as often as they can because if his reputation. I don't understand how the refs after reviewing the Guryev hit, could have seen a head check when it just wasn't there.

Absolutely agree no contact to the head none! Watched it in slow motion several times, great open ice hit… But in David Branch and his morons target Petes for years? The fiasco with gutless Hamilton coach in playoff is why you cant thro a big clean open ice hit! This is sickening, non contact OHL

 

[ktownfan]

Absolutely agree no contact to the head none! Watched it in slow motion several times, great open ice hit… But in David Branch and his morons target Petes for years? The fiasco with gutless Hamilton coach in playoff is why you cant thro a big clean open ice hit! This is sickening, non contact OHL

I hope Stewart is ok, he plays hard and honest. Looked like a shoulder, borderline hit, depends what side of the fence tyou are on. What goes around comes around

 

[snipes29]

Is David Branch still the top guy in OHL ? Or is he out? He sure should be after the team Canada fiasco which hes on the board . These old boys should be charged for covering up a crime! And would love to hear Branch comments on Coach Jay McKee of Hamilton complaining about Petes being too rough in last years playoffs?

 

[PuckStop75]

Absolutely agree no contact to the head none! Watched it in slow motion several times, great open ice hit… But in David Branch and his morons target Petes for years? The fiasco with gutless Hamilton coach in playoff is why you cant thro a big clean open ice hit! This is sickening, non contact OHL

If anything, the Guryev hit was a charge; watching the replay Stewart sees the hit is coming but can't get out of the way and leans into it a bit, the size and momentum discrepancy were not in his favor. 10 years ago it would have been a celebrated hit, but that level of pursuit of a violent collision is no longer acceptable in the game. The expectation is that players will show a level of restraint, and Guryev will need to learn how to make that check in a different way or he will spend a lot of time on the sidelines.

I don't agree with the direction this has gone in hockey but it is what it is, the players have to adapt.

 

[Zebra]

I hope Stewart is ok, he plays hard and honest. Looked like a shoulder, borderline hit, depends what side of the fence tyou are on. What goes around comes around

I am on the Petes Side of the fence and it looked clean to me-
But you’re absolutely right about what goes around comes around- Stewart throws big hits too eh?

I have your post from Saturday (it’s post #115 in the Kingston thread)






Good win, they better pat Zhigalov on the back for that win again. Great start, big hit by Stewart and beat up the guy who came after him. I don't understand why the coach doesn't play him more or with someone that can get him the puck. His first shift got the rink and his team buzzing. Soto finally scores. Giveaways in our zone, and what was the line change by Budnick on the 2nd goal? He needs to get his confidence back or something, he improved last year, but hasn't done much. Anyway, back at it tonight

 

[Square Corners]

Is David Branch still the top guy in OHL ? Or is he out? He sure should be after the team Canada fiasco which hes on the board . These old boys should be charged for covering up a crime! And would love to hear Branch comments on Coach Jay McKee of Hamilton complaining about Petes being too rough in last years playoffs?

Running the OHL doesnt mean your also a decision maker in Hockey Canada..

On Guryev he better not get suspended

 

[PuckStop75]

Running the OHL doesnt mean your also a decision maker in Hockey Canada..

On Guryev he better not get suspended

There is a great quote in the movie the blindside "what is the penalty for? excessive blocking?"

Guryev will likely miss some time for excessive contact, the league will view it as a predatory hit executed with the sole intent of injury another player, he never made a play on the puck. I don't necessarily agree but that seems to be the standard, there is no take the player or the puck anymore, effectively what they are establishing is that any play exclusively on the player is deemed interference.

 

[Petes]

No suspension coming for Guryev

 

[ptbopete]

No suspension coming for Guryev

Where do u see that? It’s the right call. I do agree though that to reduce brain injury, the league has to call penalties for big hits to the upper body. I’m guessing that Guryev isn’t too worried about intent to injure but he should be if he wants to keep contributing to the Petes. We need him on the ice.

 

[WillardJFredricks]

No suspension coming for Guryev

Who knows after his hit tonight, though. Last night was a BS call, tonight was justified.

I love how he plays, but it doesn't work in this era, unfortunately.

I don't know what the Petes should do with him. He's a liability because even if he throws a clean hit, the refs are after him. I would guess the Sharks want him to keep playing physically. Maybe he shouldn't be back in the OHL, he should be in a league that allows physical play.

 

[Bra Wavers]

No suspension coming for Guryev

That didn't age well......another 5 and a game tonight.
The hit was worse than last night's but at least Outwater returned.
The announcers said that Stewart was out with a shoulder injury which is better than a concussion.
I guess we will see what happens.

 

[Petes]

Guryev is getting suspended for that one for sure

 

[Bra Wavers]

A few thoughts on tonight's 2-1 loss in Kingston.....

- The Petes outshot Kingston 35-23....Zhigalov made a number of great stops including point blank shots by Dezoete and Melee in the last 20 seconds. Sztuska was steady giving up a pinball goal and a PP goal

- The Petes' #1 PP unit stunk - 5 forwards doesn't seem to be working. Low percentage passing and over-passing led to turnovers and less sustained pressure in the Ozone.

- Lockhart didn't have a great night, taking an unnecessary slashing penalty in the neutral zone while killing a penalty. Kingston scored the winning PP goal when Lockhart was in the box.

- Guryev is a beast but he has no value if he is in the box or suspended as often as he is. After being a healthy scratch for two games, I'd imagine Guo will draw in tomorrow for Guryev.

- When the Petes do trade for a top 6 forward, it needs to be a big body physical guy with skill. IMO the line of Lockhart-Robertson-Lardis has been struggling because Lardis and Lockhart are too easy to knock off the puck and have trouble winning puck battles in the corners against bigger, stronger players.

- The Petes will be a tired group and will need to dig deep for their 4:00 game tomorrow in Hamilton. Hamilton will not be happy after getting spanked 8-2 in Mississauga tonight.

 

[ktownfan]

I am on the Petes Side of the fence and it looked clean to me-
But you’re absolutely right about what goes around comes around- Stewart throws big hits too eh?

I have your post from Saturday (it’s post #115 in the Kingston thread)






Good win, they better pat Zhigalov on the back for that win again. Great start, big hit by Stewart and beat up the guy who came after him. I don't understand why the coach doesn't play him more or with someone that can get him the puck. His first shift got the rink and his team buzzing. Soto finally scores. Giveaways in our zone, and what was the line change by Budnick on the 2nd goal? He needs to get his confidence back or something, he improved last year, but hasn't done much. Anyway, back at it tonight

I agree, Stewart hits, but honest. Not cheap. Have a look at the Hamilton game i spoke of. 1 st shift of the game, so you won't have to look far. Clean hit , hands down, players teammate grabs Stewart and fights him. After the fight Stewart even gives the guy a tap on the head, as if to say "good job" Guryev has been suspended, a repeat offender for this in fact, even going back to his days in Lindsay. He can be effective, but someone, somewhere is going to get him. The Petes have to look long and hard if they can reel him in.

 

[ptbopete]

The coaches must know and have known that Guryev has some skill and I have said this for over a year now, Guryev has long needed to be corralled into playing good hockey. Aside from his big frame, Guryev is a good skater, passes well, exits the zone well and even has a good shot which I know because I've seen him shoot (not often because he doesn't shoot much) and he has a heavy low shot. He has all the ingredients to be a top defenseman on the Petes but Wilson and company have apparently not been able or willing to direct Guryev to just play the game so his team can win. The big hits are not working.

If Wilson is telling Guryev to stop the high-risk hits and Guryev keeps running at guys anyway, then Guryev has to either be benched or traded for a bag of pucks.

 

[Square Corners]

If Wilson is telling Guryev to stop the high-risk hits and Guryev keeps running at guys anyway, then Guryev has to either be benched or traded for a bag of pucks.

Its very clear that nobody is telling Guryev to not do it

 

[snipes29]

Who knows after his hit tonight, though. Last night was a BS call, tonight was justified.

I love how he plays, but it doesn't work in this era, unfortunately.

I don't know what the Petes should do with him. He's a liability because even if he throws a clean hit, the refs are after him. I would guess the Sharks want him to keep playing physically. Maybe he shouldn't be back in the OHL, he should be in a league that allows physical play.

Thats the problem the refs are after him, just like last years playoff series vs Hamilton sissy coach Jay McKee complained to league officials and league officials brutalized Petes rest of series. Power plays decided every playoff series from that point on. Jay McKee should coach checkers there is no contact there lol. Now garbage OHL officials target the Petes for open ice clean hits? I GUESS IT WILL BE NON CONTACT HOCKEY ???