Perron suspended 6 games for crosscheck to the face on Zub - Mod warning Post #590

[HF2002]

On what grounds? He didn't deliberately cross check Zub to the head?

Who is the PA trying to protect here? A twice concussed player or the player who tried to add to the total?

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Frankly 6 games isn't enough, but it's so wildly inconsistent.

 

[Rob Brown]

On what grounds? He didn't deliberately cross check Zub to the head?

Who is the PA trying to protect here? A twice concussed player or the player who tried to add to the total?

This. The fact that the NHLPA is appealing it to defend Perron is ridiculous.

 

[Pierre from Orleans]

How is this crosscheck to the teeth 2 minutes while Perron got 5 minutes + game misconduct + 6 games suspension? (00:56 and forward in video)

No one can explain that.

I think everyone can agree that DOPs is widely inconsistent when it comes to handing out punishment. Even in Perrons case I think 6 games is on the low side.

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

I think everyone can agree that DOPs is widely inconsistent when it comes to handing out punishment. Even in Perrons case I think 6 games is on the low side.

I always assumed Perron was one of 'their guys'.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Just watching this - Larkin is laying there motionless on the ice and guys are pushing and shoving right near him. At that point I'm nervous that those skate blades are coming awfully close to him and he's not moving.

 

[Dessloch]

Just watching this - Larkin is laying there motionless on the ice and guys are pushing and shoving right near him. At that point I'm nervous that those skate blades are coming awfully close to him and he's not moving.

Not only that but also if having a neck injury or concussion any contact could be very dangerous,

 

[swiftwin]

Not exactly jumping, but was from behind?

Didn't catch him in the head, not even close. Also was not jumping, and did not need to take multiple strides to deliver the crosscheck.

There's some nasty ones in this video. At 3:50-3:58 there's two which are at least as dangerous if not more so. The Regher one I think was after the player, and he goes up high. Buff was during play.

Regher one looks pretty old. Was that pre-2006 lockout?

The Buff one was during play, and closer to what Benn did to Stone and Larkin.

Just watching this - Larkin is laying there motionless on the ice and guys are pushing and shoving right near him. At that point I'm nervous that those skate blades are coming awfully close to him and he's not moving.

100%.

What Perron was not only dangerous for Zub, but also dangerous for Larkin.

 

[zar]

I do feel the suspension was 100% warranted. I would be curious to hear from the DoPeS as to why Matthews gets a 2 game suspension but Perron gets 6 for a very similar action.

Matthews suspended two games | NHL.com

Matthews suspended two games for cross-checking

www.nhl.com

 

[BKIslandersFan]

He was still in the league?

 

[SnuggaRUDE]

Didn't catch him in the head, not even close. Also was not jumping, and did not need to take multiple strides to deliver the crosscheck.


Regher one looks pretty old. Was that pre-2006 lockout?

The Buff one was during play, and closer to what Benn did to Stone and Larkin.


100%.

What Perron was not only dangerous for Zub, but also dangerous for Larkin.

I think it was 2010 or 2011.

You're not going to find too many where they go high like this from in front after a play AND land the crosscheck. Since after the whistle people aren't going to be stickhandleing etc to be distracted from an incoming crosscheck. So most of them are going to look like both players are getting the sticks up, or it comes from behind.

From a supplementary discipline standpoint, I'd think the ones from behind are no better.

 

[Rob Brown]

He was still in the league?

He had 56 points last year - he's not exactly some irrelevant nobody lol.

 

[Christien]

He was still in the league?

Have you not been watchng hockey? Brain dead comment

 

[BKIslandersFan]

Have you not been watchng hockey? Brain dead comment

Not too much Blues or Red Wings I am afraid.

 

[TheNumber4]

Here's Tkachuk wacking Klingberg in the head on purpose while pretending to go after the puck. (5K fine). Perron needed to hide it better:

 

[Rob Brown]

Here's Tkachuk wacking Klingberg in the head on purpose while pretending to go after the puck. (5K fine). Perron needed to hide it better:

Not really the same thing at all.

 

[TheNumber4]

Not really the same thing at all.

It's a targeted attack on the head with your stick. It's not the same thing, but it's close enough, you may just be fooled by Tkachuck's elite ability to hide his intentions.

 

[MikeyMike01]

6 games is an awful lot

It's not enough.

Duality of man

 

[Mr Positive]

On what grounds? He didn't deliberately cross check Zub to the head?

Who is the PA trying to protect here? A twice concussed player or the player who tried to add to the total?

The PA always appeals because they always go on the side of money

You'd think they'd be the ones wanting to improve safety. It's the PA driving down punishment

 

[HF2002]

Here's Tkachuk wacking Klingberg in the head on purpose while pretending to go after the puck. (5K fine). Perron needed to hide it better:

This is total bullshit. Same with Trouba.

It's like they won't find a sentient person to handle discipline.

Other sports leagues will go back and review an incident and rule on the play using the technology the Leagues wanted to use to bring a better fan experience. Rugby does this during live games. HDTV, more cameras, Hawkeye, etc. They let the cat out of the bag.

You don't get to the top of your sports profession without being dirty sometimes. Okay, maybe not tennis. Cheating, yes.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

This. The fact that the NHLPA is appealing it to defend Perron is ridiculous.

I think Perron the one who requested it so they have to. It won’t matter though, he won’t win.

 

[TheNumber4]

This is total bullshit. Same with Trouba.

It's like they won't find a sentient person to handle discipline.

Other sports leagues will go back and review an incident and rule on the play using the technology the Leagues wanted to use to bring a better fan experience. Rugby does this. HDTV, more cameras, Hawkeye, etc. They let the cat out of the bag.

You don't get to the top of your sports profession without being dirty sometimes. Okay, maybe not tennis. Cheating, yes.

The NHL seems to punish based on perception. Not safety. Not even for set precedent. Perron running across the ice to head shot looks bad, but is it really that different then cracking someone's head standing right next to him? The only difference is that Trouba/Tkachuk hide their intentions better.

 

[HF2002]

The PA always appeals because they always go on the side of money

You'd think they'd be the ones wanting to improve safety. It's the PA driving down punishment

No argument with this, and then you get players suing players and not the NHL - Steve Moore.

The PA needs to pay closer attention to this in order to protect the players they represent.

 

[HF2002]

The NHL seems to punish based on perception. Not safety. Not even for set precedent. Perron running across the ice to head shot looks bad, but is it really that different then cracking someone's head standing right next to him? The only difference is that Trouba/Tkachuk hide their intentions better.

I'm not arguing with you here, btw.

The players clearly don't hide their intentions. Trouba couldn't have looked any worse. That Tkachuk clip is as devious as it gets.

Bring back fighting or actually penalize players for obvious infractions. And I think fighting has nothing to do with playing hockey.

 

[TheNumber4]

I'm not arguing with you here, btw.

The players clearly don't hide their intentions. Trouba couldn't have looked any worse. That Tkachuk clip is as devious as it gets.

Bring back fighting or actually penalize players for obvious infractions. And I think fighting has nothing to do with playing hockey.

I think we agree too. But like the NHL doesn't want to dole out suspensions, so if something looks like there was a possibility that it was an accident, they take the accident narrative, throw out the fine, then sweep the whole thing under the rug. Nothing to do with Player Safetly, everything to do with the PERCEPTION of player safetly.