Salary Cap: Pens Salary Cap Thread: Dr Strangedubas "Tankination" is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot we have ever had to face."

[molon labe]

A lot. And probably 12+ mil.

Probably worth it at 12.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Feels like Marner would piss Sullivan RIGHT off lol

 

[Gurglesons]

Feels like Marner would piss Sullivan RIGHT off lol

Why? He's a great defensive player.

 

[Tom Hanks]

Why? He's a great defensive player.

He’s no ZAR ……

 

[Gurglesons]

He’s no ZAR ……

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What brought you back my friend?

 

[BusinessGoose]

What brought you back my friend?

PLAYOFFS, BABY

 

[Tom Hanks]

What brought you back my friend?

You did. I browse HF Pens every now and then (forgot login details though) and I saw you mentioned my name the other day. So I emailed HF Support and here we are.

 

[BusinessGoose]

You did. I browse HF Pens every now and then (forgot login details though) and I saw you mentioned my name the other day. So I emailed HF Support and here we are.

Lol, i should have done that instead of starting over hahaha

RIP @EightyOne

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Feels like Marner would piss Sullivan RIGHT off lol

The exact opposite. Sullivan would look at Marner like he's Bryan Rust on steroids. He'd never come off the ice.

 

[BusinessGoose]

The exact opposite. Sullivan would look at Marner like he's Bryan Rust on steroids. He'd never come off the ice.

Hmmmmm.. You and @Gurglesons might be on to something

 

[Grouch]

Kapanen likely will be because of age and his still NHL level ability. Carter no longer has NHL ability at his advanced age that makes sense to pay for over developing a young guy.

If you ask me though what would I prefer:

Smith-Eller-Kapanen
Bemstrom-Gruden-Puljujarvi

of

Smith-Eller-Puustinen
Bemstrom-Carter-Puljujarvi

I'm taking the former.

So many people inserting Bemstrom like he's gonna get re-signed. Dude is straight garbage. Hino or Big Z > Puljujarvi > Poulin > Harkins > Bemstrom

I'd be trying to dump Acciari and Smith, get a 1 LW so DOC can play 3L where he belongs with Eller and Puustinen (giving them more than 8 min ice time plz)

 

[Empoleon8771]

The Penguins would never have the assets to get Marner, especially if they trade their 1st this year in the Karlsson deal. Dubas did say that the Guentzel deadline dead was focused on giving them more flexibility with adding young players via trade, but I feel it reasonably won't help them acquire a guy like that much. Especially because I want to keep Koivunen, who's really the main headliner they got back for Guentzel.

With that being said, I'd be extremely happy to be trying to shop via trade to get either a young LW for Crosby or a young RW for Malkin. Which to target depends on how you feel about Rakell on Malkin's line.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

The Penguins would never have the assets to get Marner, especially if they trade their 1st this year in the Karlsson deal. Dubas did say that the Guentzel deadline dead was focused on giving them more flexibility with adding young players via trade, but I feel it reasonably won't help them acquire a guy like that much. Especially because I want to keep Koivunen, who's really the main headliner they got back for Guentzel.

With that being said, I'd be extremely happy to be trying to shop via trade to get either a young LW for Crosby or a young RW for Malkin. Which to target depends on how you feel about Rakell on Malkin's line.

I truly think the idea is to move Rakell and Smith, and perhaps others, for modest assets. And then use some of the acquired assets to get young, NHL players being squeezed out of their current situation for cap reasons or fit.

I don't expect him to be a target for the Pens, but the Zegras situation is a great example. The Ducks could look to move him to address other areas of need. There might be similar situations the Pens can target.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I truly think the idea is to move Rakell and Smith, and perhaps others, for modest assets. And then use some of the acquired assets to get young, NHL players being squeezed out of their current situation for cap reasons or fit.

I don't expect him to be a target for the Pens, but the Zegras situation is a great example. The Ducks could look to move him to address other areas of need. There might be similar situations the Pens can target.

Necas is the guy that catches my eye, especially if Carolina re-signs Guentzel. I don't think they have the money to pay both Guentzel and Necas, so giving Carolina back some of the assets they traded in the Guentzel deal for Necas could make sense.

I said on the last page that I really don't want to move Koivunen, but I wonder if Koivunen plus Philly's 2nd for Necas' RFA rights would be enough.

 

[66-30-33]

Necas means Malkin plays wing, yes?

Oh he’s a wing? NHL.com said a C.

 

[Gurglesons]

Necas is the guy that catches my eye, especially if Carolina re-signs Guentzel. I don't think they have the money to pay both Guentzel and Necas, so giving Carolina back some of the assets they traded in the Guentzel deal for Necas could make sense.

I said on the last page that I really don't want to move Koivunen, but I wonder if Koivunen plus Philly's 2nd for Necas' RFA rights would be enough.

I imagine some team would offer more than a 2nd and a mid ass prospect for a 50+ pt player this year who is coming off a 70+ pt season.

Necas means Malkin plays wing, yes?

Oh he’s a wing? NHL.com said a C.

He was drafted as a C, but has never played that role in Carolina.

 

[Gurglesons]

If I'm PIT and trying to target RFAs, I'm going after Hayton in Arizona.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I imagine some team would offer more than a 2nd and a mid ass prospect for a 50+ pt player this year who is coming off a 70+ pt season.

I know you don't like Koivunen, but speaking realistically, I don't know that they'd get a ton more than that offered. Necas' price would likely be his offer sheet price plus a bit more, if he's making $6 million on an extension that's a 1st and a 3rd.

I don't think Koivunen and a 2nd is enough but it's probably something that gets in the conversation. I would imagine Necas brings back something like a 1st and 2nd if his RFA rights are moved.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

If I'm PIT and trying to target RFAs, I'm going after Hayton in Arizona.

I think Arizona could be ripe for the picking. There have already been reports that players who have NTCs would have Utah on the list if Utah already had a team.

There may be a handful of trade requests to go along with the relocation.

I think Vancouver could be a match, too. The Canucks have only 3 defensemen under contract next year, one goalie (Demko), and a fair number of expiring contracts up front, too. They may have to sacrifice a player or two to fill in those holes.

I'm also on board with your previous free agency suggestion of Chandler Stephenson. I think he'd be a good fit who won't break the bank, and I don't think you need to give him substantial term.

With smart moves, Dubas could use a mix of trades and mid-tier free agent signings to further reshape this team without draining the still shallow prospect pool.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Wait, is moving Yotes, Uncle Gary's last gift to the Sid Era Penguins?!?

The LONG CON?!?!

 

[Sideline]

I think Arizona could be ripe for the picking. There have already been reports that players who have NTCs would have Utah on the list if Utah already had a team.

There may be a handful of trade requests to go along with the relocation.

I think Vancouver could be a match, too. The Canucks have only 3 defensemen under contract next year, one goalie (Demko), and a fair number of expiring contracts up front, too. They may have to sacrifice a player or two to fill in those holes.

I'm also on board with your previous free agency suggestion of Chandler Stephenson. I think he'd be a good fit who won't break the bank, and I don't think you need to give him substantial term.

With smart moves, Dubas could use a mix of trades and mid-tier free agent signings to further reshape this team without draining the still shallow prospect pool.

I can't see how Utah would be such a terrible spot.

These guys are all flying private so it's not like the airport being a bit smaller is a big deal. The taxes are low, the city is safe, and Utah is one of the most naturally beautiful places in America.

I guess if you are 24 and looking to go clubbing after a game it's not your best option, but my understanding was the newer generation of players was more like robo-Sid and McJesus where all they drink is kale smoothies anyway.

 

[Gurglesons]

I know you don't like Koivunen, but speaking realistically, I don't know that they'd get a ton more than that offered. Necas' price would likely be his offer sheet price plus a bit more, if he's making $6 million on an extension that's a 1st and a 3rd.

I don't think Koivunen and a 2nd is enough but it's probably something that gets in the conversation. I would imagine Necas brings back something like a 1st and 2nd if his RFA rights are moved.

I mean they probably could be offered a prospect that is actually relevant.

 

[Rave7215]

I can't see how Utah would be such a terrible spot.

These guys are all flying private so it's not like the airport being a bit smaller is a big deal. The taxes are low, the city is safe, and Utah is one of the most naturally beautiful places in America.

I guess if you are 24 and looking to go clubbing after a game it's not your best option, but my understanding was the newer generation of players was more like robo-Sid and McJesus where all they drink is kale smoothies anyway.

Have you been to Salt Lake City? It's a beautiful city but I absolutely would not want to live there. The whole city has a different vibe and way about it. Which isn't surprising considering the majority of the state is Mormon. As a young athlete, what does that have to offer you? Not much at all really compared to other major cities.

 

[SEALBound]

Pretty sure that NTC/NMC do not count towards a relocation. Their best bet would be to not resign or to ask for a trade and hope you get it.

SLC wouldn't be bad. I have a brother there and I've been several times for business related things. I could live there. Maybe not in the heart of the city but I have a decent time there.

 

[Tom Hanks]

@Honour Over Glory can always put his favourite hoodie back on and get this guy from the Czech Republic