Post-Game Talk: Pens @ Rangers 2/1/21

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I mean absolutely, and if I was in the shoes of Quinn I too would rather play guys like Howden, Lemieux and Di Giuseppe besides Kakko or Lafreniere because they WILL get the puck out, are sound defensively (or atleast more sound) to kill time before putting Panarin and co. on the ice. But is it good for the club?

I don't think Quinn has an idea where he is going with this team. Constantly switching lines tells enough. And frankly, playing Lafreniere and Kakko around 10 minutes is just not acceptable. I'd rather lose games and have Laf and Kakko out there trying stuff, developing instead of this BS where we still lose with 1 goal or more, and have our future talents play less than 10 minutes.
My point is that if the idea is we need to fire Quinn because we need to get a coach who will do something no coach will actually do, then that’s not a very convincing argument.

Imo they need to earn it like everyone else. I’m sure Quinn didn’t go into this season thinking Miller would he on 20 minutes a night but his play absolutely demands it. There have been some points where their play demanded more minutes, sometimes they got it and sometimes they didn’t. But neither has made as solid a case as someone like Miller imo
 
In a way, signing Panarin was bad for us. Because it put our GM and coach into "win now mode". Well, we can't do it with this squad. But right now, Quinn is trying to save his ass by winning as many games as possible. This means, more icetime to Panarin, Buch, Zib, Kreids, Strome. And the bottom-6, who can keep it from their own end. Take a guess who is caught in the middle? Yup, Kakko and Lafreniere with less than 10mins icetime, constantly swapping lines etc.

What needs to be done, is fire Quinn. I mean no point trying to salvage this thing IMO, no offense to him.
Second, whoever comes second, should have the first priority in making Lafreniere, Kakko, Chytil etc. differencemakeres in the NHL. f*** the playoffs, I'd rather enter them when the team is ready.

Playoffs are nice when you have never had them (or had them for a long time), but ask Minnesota. Getting jumped from the 1st round 10 years in a row isn't that funny either.
Not saying you’re wrong (you probably are right) but if this team ever got its shit together along with Shesty being entrusted as the number one guy I would hope the combination of winning games and the kids contributing would be the way to go.
Quinn is gonna have to find a way to balance both and make sure he doesn’t “forget” to give Kakko and Lafreniere more minutes
 
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Nice to have a guy that's unimpressive in a game and just sweats 3 points. Hope Laf becomes that.
Yeah I definitely can see Lafreneire being that guy. I’ll tell you I liked what I saw from Lafreniere tonight. He was skating well and seemed more confident. Mostly the first period bc it felt like his ice time tailed off bc of the special team play. But I think tonight was a good night of progress him.

Just really need to get him ice time. Kakko too. They need their reps.
 
Best thing happened in the 1st was the fight that ended it. But anyway good to win this one. They finally played a good third period and Igor was great other than giving up the one weak one.

Looks like we're going to need another defenseman though. Do you play Hajek and move someone to the right? or do you just go with a right shot guy. It might be an interesting experiment to see what Braden Schneider can do right now. He's been practicing in Hartford.
 
Only having to give up two 2nd rounders to get Adam Fox
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And people wanted to wait until this year to get him
 
Not saying you’re wrong (you probably are right) but if this team ever got its shit together along with Shesty being entrusted as the number one guy I would hope the combination of winning games and the kids contributing would be the way to go.
Quinn is gonna have to find a way to balance both and make sure he doesn’t “forget” to give Kakko and Lafreniere more minutes
I just don't see how Kakko and Lafreniere can make it work in this system of Quinn's, where he really trusts his 3rd and 4th liners. The only way Quinn can make it work is to force Lafreniere and Kakko into 1st and 2nd line. Then he can run his 3rd and 4th as checking lines like he pleases. But what would that look like?

Chytils injury is f***ing this up bad. Center depth is killing us.
 
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Yeah I definitely can see Lafreneire being that guy. I’ll tell you I liked what I saw from Lafreniere tonight. He was skating well and seemed more confident. Mostly the first period bc it felt like his ice time tailed off bc of the special team play. But I think tonight was a good night of progress him.

Just really need to get him ice time. Kakko too. They need their reps.
They need their reps and whatever witch doctor is messing with us to f*** off.

Laf hasn't been blow-away fantastic but he could have 4 or 5 in 9 games, easily.
 
Buchnevich skeeted on the Pens tonight. They sweep this set if Shesty plays both games. If Geo gets the next game Quinn should be launched into orbit.

Not surprised Panarin has as many votes as he does, but he really wasn't good at all tonight.I'll take productive and bad Panarin over unproductive and bad Panarin though.
 
Buchnevich skeeted on the Pens tonight. They sweep this set if Shesty plays both games. If Geo gets the next game Quinn should be launched into orbit.

Not surprised Panarin has as many votes as he does, but he really wasn't good at all tonight.I'll take productive and bad Panarin over unproductive and bad Panarin though.
Panarin is living off moments of individual brilliance. I agree. He is not close to last season's form.
 
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Buchnevich skeeted on the Pens tonight. They sweep this set if Shesty plays both games. If Geo gets the next game Quinn should be launched into orbit.

Not surprised Panarin has as many votes as he does, but he really wasn't good at all tonight.I'll take productive and bad Panarin over unproductive and bad Panarin though.
I know a guy

 
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I just don't see how Kakko and Lafreniere can make it work in this system of Quinn's, where he really trusts his 3rd and 4th liners. The only way Quinn can make it work is to force Lafreniere and Kakko into 1st and 2nd line. Then he can run his 3rd and 4th as checking lines like he pleases. But what would that look like?

Chytils injury is f***ing this up bad. Center depth is killing us.
Can you imagine what Hayes, with his puck possession, could do for Laf?
 
They need their reps and whatever witch doctor is messing with us to f*** off.

Laf hasn't been blow-away fantastic but he could have 4 or 5 in 9 games, easily.
Yeah he easily could have a good stat line while finding his footing in the league. With even average luck he could have 3-3 pretty easily right now. Like you said, he hasn’t been blown away great anything but he’s made some plays that were inches from goals. And he’s definitely finding his footing and looks better each game. Truly the toughest circumstances for this year for a rookie.

Kakko also could easily have 5 goals right now. Tons of close chances. I really feel like both of these guys are going to hit their stride at the same time at some point this season and I can’t wait for it.
 
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