Salary Cap: Pens Off Season Thread: Pre Free Agency Shenanigans!

[Big Friggin Dummy]

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[Gurglesons]

Calgary. The original Winnipeg.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Who's everyone's favorite targets at each position?

Mine are
Center: ROR
Wing: Bertuzzi
Defense: Karlsson
Goalie: Hellebuyck

Unfortunately neither ROR or Bert would satisfy Sully's need for speed, so we're probably targeting neither.

It would be interesting to see what a guy like Karlsson could do here if we decided to swing for the fences, moved Petry, and San Jose retained some. Rolling out Letang or Karlsson for 90% of every game would be fun as hell to watch.

Center: Nicolas Roy
Wing: Barbashev
Defense: Grzelcyk or Graves
Goalie: Ullmark

 

[Andy99]

I think we should have a list of what players we think we actually get at each position instead of what players we’d like…lol

Center: Kampf
Wing: Bunting
Defense: none or Kulikov (I don’t think they land any big targets there)
Goalie: Gibson or they retain Jarry

 

[K Fleur]

Center: somebody under 30
Wing: Bunting
Defense: somebody under 30
Goalie: not Jarry.

Don’t sign any of our UFAs.

 

[OtherThingsILike]

Center: are any reportedly available?

Chances are, Elias Lindholm will be.
And I guess JT Miller as well, though he may be best suited as a winger.

 

[Andy99]

Chances are, Elias Lindholm will be.
And I guess JT Miller as well, though he may be best suited as a winger.

I’d trade our first for Lindholm or Hanifin…I think we have no chance at Lindholm though…too many teams in need of top two centers in this league with way better assets to offer…Calgary will get a lot for him…I want nothing to do w 30 year old Miller

 

[Darren McCord]

Center: are any reportedly available?
Wing: Iafallo or Arvidsson
Defense: Gryz or Soucy
Goalie: Gibson

Laughton but flyers won’t trade him here

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Expect:

Center: Kampf
Wing: Bunting
Defense: OEL
Goalie: Korpisalo

 

[Deport Ogie]

Lindholm is looking for the Bo Horvat contract which seems vaguely risky for a guy creeping up on 30 who's scoring went in the tank when he lost elite players next to him. He seems like more of a Robin than a Batman.

 

[66-30-33]

The D I want still remains Fowler. As for the rest? Helle for G, I dunno what else I’d want.

 

[pistolpete11]

i mean if you could swing Jake for Marner, we could afford to cover the difference in salary…doesn’t sound like Matthews would be on the move…that’s a move I would do, and even Nylander but I don’t think that helps Toronto as much

I'd imagine it would be Jake+, but maybe the cap hit difference is enough to make it straight up? Especially if they are desperate to shake up their core? Could be their version of Neal for Hornqvist, but at a much higher level. I dunno. It's interesting to think about.

Anyway, that's the type of move I'd be looking at if I didn't want to commit long term to Jake (which I don't).

I would totally do Marner for Jake.

But some context:

- Would Tor do this with the justification that "Jake is a 2 time Cup winner that scores in the playoffs"?
- Pitt likely wouldn't ever part with Jake. He's stapled to Sid and this org/coach tends to do what Sid prefers

The answer to both is "who knows?", but I think there's a rationale from both sides.

Also, Jake's only a 1x Cup winner.

 

[66-30-33]

Who's everyone's favorite targets at each position?

Mine are
Center: ROR
Wing: Bertuzzi
Defense: Karlsson
Goalie: Hellebuyck

Unfortunately neither ROR or Bert would satisfy Sully's need for speed, so we're probably targeting neither.

It would be interesting to see what a guy like Karlsson could do here if we decided to swing for the fences, moved Petry, and San Jose retained some. Rolling out Letang or Karlsson for 90% of every game would be fun as hell to watch.

If we got Karlsson I think Letang still remains 1st PP guy because of loyalty so I’d not want Karlsson here for PP 2 duties. Sully is that dumb…

 

[pistolpete11]

Center: Granlund
Wing: Zucker
Defense: Dumo
Goalie: Jarry

 

[Peat]

If we got Karlsson I think Letang still remains 1st PP guy because of loyalty so I’d not want Karlsson here for PP 2 duties. Sully is that dumb…

I'd expect them to try a 2 D PP1.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Man with all these players bolting outta Calgary... they could sure use a player or two to fill out their roster.

*stares at Granlund*

 

[Peat]

Just on Granlund, but I kinda wonder if we're not about to see trade values on unloved players bounce back a little.

For one thing, it's a weak free agent class, which makes trading for guys a bit more attractive.

For another, it feels like we've reached the end of half the NHL being happy to be bad. Even Arizona are talking big about how it's time to git gud. I think Chicago, Anaheim, and Phillie still couldn't care less, but everyone else seems to be gearing up. Maybe it's having this supposedly historic draft in the rear mirror, maybe it's seeing an end to the flat cap, maybe owners are getting impatient, but it feels like teams are willing to spend to get places.

Maybe even - don't want to get too optimistic - see a team willing to just take Granlund, or at least exchange a not totally onerous contract for him.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

The cap expanding (doubtless many sweaty-palmed GMs will once again take this for "it only goes up and up forever!") and this FA class being balls definitely helps the Penguins in regards to possibly moving some pieces, yeah. And as bad as I bag on Granlund... because he IS pretty terrible... it's not inconceivable that he'd do OK on certain teams in very particular situations. There is just no place that makes any sense on THIS team.

Though frankly whoever these mystery teams are better be super weak in their top six and not even have good enough powerplay personnel to bump Granlund off the absolute maximum amount of PP time he'd require to be even semi-useful.

 

[66-30-33]

I'd expect them to try a 2 D PP1.

I’d be good with that.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Man with all these players bolting outta Calgary... they could sure use a player or two to fill out their roster.

*stares at Granlund*

I hear there's a lotta fruit snacks and piss light beer in Calgary too.

*stares at Carter*

 

[Peat]

The cap expanding (doubtless many sweaty-palmed GMs will once again take this for "it only goes up and up forever!") and this FA class being balls definitely helps the Penguins in regards to possibly moving some pieces, yeah. And as bad as I bag on Granlund... because he IS pretty terrible... it's not inconceivable that he'd do OK on certain teams in very particular situations. There is just no place that makes any sense on THIS team.

Though frankly whoever these mystery teams are better be super weak in their top six and not even have good enough powerplay personnel to bump Granlund off the absolute maximum amount of PP time he'd require to be even semi-useful.

Maybe Winnipeg.

23rd for PP last year. Their roster looks devoid of playmaking talent once you factor in all the expiring contracts jonesing for the door. They've got 12m of space before they start deleting contracts. And they're a team who knows FA isn't their friend. Maybe you pay them something for Niederreiter and include one Granlund free of charge and-

Oh my gods I've just realised Winnipeg paid less to Nashville for Niederreiter than we did for Granlund and it honest to god makes me feel a little nauseous.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I hear there's a lotta fruit snacks and piss light beer in Calgary too.

*stares at Carter*

Hey it's only the finest Platinum for BigJeff.

What's the skinny on the playerwives in Calgary? I mean... the ones that aren't abandoning ship. Because BigJeff doesn't go for Pittsburgh 9s if ya know what I mean. Why do you think BigJeff is a big west coast guy?

Maybe Winnipeg.

23rd for PP last year. Their roster looks devoid of playmaking talent once you factor in all the expiring contracts jonesing for the door. They've got 12m of space before they start deleting contracts. And they're a team who knows FA isn't their friend. Maybe you pay them something for Niederreiter and include one Granlund free of charge and-

Oh my gods I've just realised Winnipeg paid less to Nashville for Niederreiter than we did for Granlund and it honest to god makes me feel a little nauseous.

It just gets worse and worse the longer you look at it, huh?

 

[SomeDude]

Backlund is a guy I’ve always liked and apparently he’s now jumped into the life raft away from Calgary. Would make a helluva 3C, 2C fill in when needed.

 

[Nordekes]

I'll play along with the "who I'd want" hypotheticals:
C: ROR
W: Colton
D: Soucy
G: Swayman

 

[Andy99]

Lindholm is looking for the Bo Horvat contract which seems vaguely risky for a guy creeping up on 30 who's scoring went in the tank when he lost elite players next to him. He seems like more of a Robin than a Batman.

I’d rather give him that contract than Jake…he’s a center