Salary Cap: Pens Off Season Thread: Pre Free Agency Shenanigans!

[Empoleon8771]

 

[Pancakes]

If you think that risk is high enough, then you should be advocating to nuke this team and start the rebuild now.

Also in this specific example, Hanifin is a young player that you ideally keep around after this year. Re-sign him now and trade him in 3 years when it's time to rebuild, you'll probably get most (if not all) of what you paid for him back.

I just want to cover our asses. It was easy to move firsts like candy when we knew that barring catastrophe we'd be in the playoffs. We no longer have that certainty, so we need to be careful.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

Not to mention I'd just rather take the risk and be serious about trying to make some noise rather than sit here watching Sid, Geno, and Tanger skate around in the mediocre middle without enough help counting off the days until we can rebuild. The falloff happens then, so be it. There'll be plenty more high 1sts coming. There's a lot less days of these three.

Yeah. Signing the core for one last ride makes no sense if you're only going to the local corner store, picking up some smokes and a lottery ticket and heading back home.

 

[Ryder71]

No chance I'm moving our 2024 first. I don't trust us to be good and even if you lottery protect it that just gives them 2025 first instead which is even worse.

Listen, we shouldn't be moving any 1st or 2nd round picks for the foreseeable future unless someone gets silly for us.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

"Good luck getting Hellebuyck. I almost held out to take over your job."

 

[Pancakes]

Not to mention I'd just rather take the risk and be serious about trying to make some noise rather than sit here watching Sid, Geno, and Tanger skate around in the mediocre middle without enough help counting off the days until we can rebuild. The falloff happens then, so be it. There'll be plenty more high 1sts coming. There's a lot less days of these three.

That's fair. I have more reservations than you guys do. I want to compete, but I'm not sure I'm willing to move that first yet to try and do so. Maybe by mid season if we look for real. Feels so damned risky to do it now.

The boy wonder about to bring us Debrincat?

 

[Empoleon8771]

I could see the talk with the Senators being about Petry. Right now, Ottawa's defense is this:

Chabot-Zub
Chychrun-XXXXXX
Sanderson-XXXXX
Brannstrom

They sound like they're not bringing Hamonic or Holden back, so they have 2 openings on RD. The thing that makes me doubt this though is that I firmly do not believe that Petry would allow a trade to Ottawa. Their defense is very young and not physical, which are 2 things Petry brings to the table.

 

[66-30-33]

"When you're fired I am taking your job and resigning as Pens POHO"

 

[Peat]

That's fair. I have more reservations than you guys do. I want to compete, but I'm not sure I'm willing to move that first yet to try and do so. Maybe by mid season if we look for real. Feels so damned risky to do it now.

I think there's something to be said for waiting to see if we're still for real before investing.

But at the same time, we have to invest, and the big opportunities don't wait around. And nobody wins crap in this league without taking a gamble.

I'm not sure Hanifin is that guy. But if Dubas thinks he is that big can't wait high end LD opportunity, then I think that he, well, can't wait.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Omg we traded in the division. Time to jump off a building

I was told that never happens lol

 

[TimmyD]

It would be cool if it was about DeBrincat. But I have no idea how they would make that work

 

[Gurglesons]

Senators make sense for us to add Mathieu Joseph as a dump from them.

 

[SUBdrewgANS]

"hey remember when I took Murray off your hands? you owe me one."

 

[Empoleon8771]

"hey remember when I took Murray off your hands? you owe me one."

Speaking of Murray:



Treliving is going to get lynched by Leafs fans

 

[Peat]

"hey remember when I took Murray off your hands? you owe me one."

"Uhm, Pierre, that was Jim Rutherford. I don't owe you one. But since you mention this..."

 

[Darren McCord]

Senators make sense for us to add Mathieu Joseph as a dump from them.

I don't want him at 3mill. Too much

 

[Gurglesons]

"Uhm, Pierre, that was Jim Rutherford. I don't owe you one. But since you mention this..."

Dubas acquired Matt Murray from Ottawa, tho'

I don't want him at 3mill. Too much

Maybe we deal out Ruhwedel for him.

 

[Empoleon8771]

"Uhm, Pierre, that was Jim Rutherford. I don't owe you one. But since you mention this..."

No, Dubas took Murray off of their hands last year with the Leafs

 

[Gurglesons]

If we acquire Joseph for Ruhwedel that gives us 13 million with 10 forwards.

Add in Smith, Poehling and DOC and that gives you around 9 million to sign a goaltender, a bottom six forward, and a LD with no additional moves. Seems reasonable and also gives us space to do another trade.

 

[Jobeycool]

Nothing else will happen unless Pens trade Rust or someone else to get our defensemen better..

 

[Darren McCord]

Dubas acquired Matt Murray from Ottawa, tho'



Maybe we deal out Ruhwedel for him.

I mean if we get out of a contract like Ruh then ya. But he had a rough year last year and has 3 more at 3mill

If we acquire Joseph for Ruhwedel that gives us 13 million with 10 forwards.

Add in Smith, Poehling and DOC and that gives you around 9 million to sign a goaltender, a bottom six forward, and a LD with no additional moves. Seems reasonable and also gives us space to do another trade.

Is Joseph a center?

 

[Peat]

Dubas acquired Matt Murray from Ottawa, tho'

No, Dubas took Murray off of their hands last year with the Leafs

The joke is the ellipsis was leading into Dubas reminding Dorion about that. Subtlety is wasted on you.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

I mean if we get out of a contract like Ruh then ya. But he had a rough year last year and has 3 more at 3mill



Is Joseph a center?

Winger only.

 

[3ladesof5teel]

Nothing else will happen unless Pens trade Rust or someone else to get our defensemen better..

That's not necessarily true

 

[Ogelthorpe]

Patience people, patience.

Anyone here old enough to remember the movie colors?…..when Robert Duvall tells the story of the young Bull and the old Bull?