Rumor: Pens and Canucks talking trade

[Canuck86]

Inserting Kapanen into an unstable/divided, egotistical locker room in VAN would not be a good idea, but Rutherford seems to love the Kapanen family.

He's also willing to overpay for him based on past trades, so something to watch.

When you take HACK Vancouver Media people who have no TRUE facts to say so they SPEW garbage for click bait and attention, okay then...believe what they say I guess!

 

[Eggtimer]

Lol Zucker and Miller as main pieces….
Devils “up the ante” (lol) and offer their player no one wants and offers in 272773738392 posts for the other teams point per game stud. Use your head people.
It’s actually funny how often this happens. Zucker. Fack really?

 

[Canuck86]

Not straight up, but I wouldn’t be surprised if something involving Kapanen happens.

I wouldn't mind Kapanen but not a chance I move Boeser for him even if Pit attaches a pick or prospect. Pit is just a bad trade partner for the Canucks if they want to get younger/better that is

 

[Jerkbait]

Tweet was from the weekend before it even leaked that the Canucks were looking at poaching Patrick Allvin to join Rutherford in the front office so it seems Blake Price has some credible sources.

Price of course used to be a media member for TSN.

What can a possible Pens and Canucks trade look like?

Some tidbits that Rutherford mentioned in his presser yesterday in relation to trades.

1. Canucks will not be trading any early round draft picks. Late picks are available
2. Canucks looking to acquire speed
3. Canucks looking to acquire a player that is similar age of the core and can grow with the core
( 21-26 yrs old)
4. Canucks against the cap so it would have to be dollar in dollar out trade

I already called this last week ...zuckers days in Pitt are coming to an end.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Yeah that's really the impression I'm getting

The issue with creating a trade between these two teams is that the Penguins would only want one of Vancouver's top players, but they don't have the high value pieces required to pull off one of them. If they had another Jared McCann caliber young player, maybe something like Kapanen and McCann for Miller could work in theory. But they don't, so it's a moot point. On the other side, the Canucks only have those top players as valuable pieces and have quite a few holes and bad contracts.

Marino is the other guy that would fill a need but obviously that opens up a big hole for the Pens to fill.

 

[Turin]

I already called this last week ...zuckers days in Pitt are coming to an end.

So is it Kane or a Canuck then? Lol

 

[ottomaddox]

I'm legitimately curious for what the Canucks have for trade chips to actively improve their team now if their top guys are really this valuable and they're not trading any sort of worthwhile futures.

JR has done it before, so never say never, but you're very likely not getting any sort of useful players for guys like Myers, Sutter and Pearson. If it was any other GM, I'd throw out the possibility entirely, but JR's a guy who has done it before.

This must be a publicity stunt to get both fanbases hopeful and excited.

An instant trade that has an impact for both teams? Rutherford needs some time to put forward an action plan, and the action plan can't be "Let's give the Penguins some of our best young talent for pennies on the dollar".

 

[Jerkbait]

Why not both? Pitt will take a long look at kane ( we already know this) and with GM Rutherford now in Vancouver the writing was on the wall for a pitt trade.
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[Nona Di Giuseppe]

Rutherford isn't even the GM.

DUNNO WHY ya'll citing his habits for a trade. Im going to wager he makes zero.

 

[Szechwan]

I could definitely see him target Kapenen, he'd fit well in Vancouver. Pitt fans, can he PK?

 

[RSPens]

I could definitely see him target Kapenen, he'd fit well in Vancouver. Pitt fans, can he PK?

Don't really know as he hasn't done it since leaving Toronto. However, he did pk for Toronto.

 

[BHD]

Knowing Rutherford, he’ll overpay. The only time his freewheeling worked was in 2016.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Even if kapanen is a player that would work on Canucks there would have to a good pick/prospect coming back if you’re trying to get Miller. I am sure other teams would out bid too.

Nor does this solve our top 4 RHD situation which seems to defeat the point in dealing someone like Miller.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I mean I get it from Canuck fans perspective. Miller is both a terrific top six forward and also potentially expendable for them moving ahead. He's one of the guys that as a Pens fan I keep bringing up on my short list to help them with some of their scoring inconsistency and to vary their wing mix a bit.

I just don't see a way for the Penguins to make that happen, though. Marino off the table (not because he is some mega talent but simply because of zero depth there) and Hex not showing any indications that he's in any hurry to spend first round picks. At least til some other questions are answered. The only way I think there is much movement between both teams is if JR loses his mind over some former player he just MUST have and dangles something the Pens FO can't pass on. And even if I hated basically everything JR did after the B2B I just can't see that happening realistically.

I could definitely see him target Kapenen, he'd fit well in Vancouver. Pitt fans, can he PK?

He was a very good PKer in Toronto, FWIR. Sullivan doesn't use him there.

 

[Peter Griffin]

I’m going to presict some sort of deal involving Boeser/Miller and Myers/Hamonic/Poolman for Kapanen, Marino and Blueger. Picks/prospects and retention where needed. Just a feeling, hope I’m wrong.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

The only correlation here is JR’s ties to Pittsburgh. Sure would kapanen look alright on Canucks, yes. But do we want him over Miller or Boeser, no. So aside from Marino (and guentzel which is clearly not gonna happen) there’s no indication we would be good trade partners here.

 

[BCNate]

Even if kapanen is a player that would work on Canucks there would have to a good pick/prospect coming back if you’re trying to get Miller. I am sure other teams would out bid too.

Nor does this solve our top 4 RHD situation which seems to defeat the point in dealing someone like Miller.

I'd suggest our 3 most tradeable assets are Miller, Boeser, Horvat, in that order. I don't see any getting dealt unless it fills the void that we have in our top 4 RD.

Our other needs are bottom 6 Forwards that can PK, and a Physical bottom pair LD who can PK. I expect that the Canucks will attempt to make smaller deals to fill these gaps before making a blockbuster.

While the odds are not in favor of the Canucks getting into the playoffs, there are 8 winnable division games coming up. I don't expect anything major to happen until we are through that stretch. whatever the Canucks are for the rest of the year is likely to be decided by the first couple days of the new year.

 

[Canucks LB]

Damn it's pretty amazing that the Canucks have been so bad for years if this is how valuable their players are

If you seriously think Miller is worth that, there is no reasonable discussion to be had here.

Miller is a 3 position PPG forward, who is on great contract, and has been our best player.
What in the world are you talking about

 

[jackjohnson]

It'll be something around Miller and probably Zucker. Maybe Zucker+one of the Pens' recently drafted forward prospects?

Ewww Miller for Zucker? Are Canucks trying to get worst than they are now?

 

[robes1]

The Nucks are currently built like a wobbly Jenga tower. If you trade Miller, there will be a big hole in their top 6 production, unless you get a PPG player back, which is unlikely from the Pens.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Miller is a 3 position PPG forward, who is on great contract, and has been our best player.
What in the world are you talking about

I'm talking about it being asinine to say that it would cost Kapanen, a 1st, 2nd and prospect for Miller.

 

[PensandCaps]

I'm talking about it being asinine to say that it would cost Kapanen, a 1st, 2nd and prospect for Miller.

eh, not really. if it's a late 1st.

 

[Canucks LB]

I'm talking about it being asinine to say that it would cost Kapanen, a 1st, 2nd and prospect for Miller.

There is not 1 Canucks fan who would take Miller for Kapanen a 1st and 2nd.
Kapanen is basically redundant in Vancouver.
A late 1st is basically nothing in the situation vancouver is in now (Be a consistent playoff team in 2 years), alongside a 2nd.

Canucks get drastically worse, and barely improve the future.
Awful trade

 

[Siludin]

I'm talking about it being asinine to say that it would cost Kapanen, a 1st, 2nd and prospect for Miller.

It's minimum Kapanen+1st and there would be ten similar offers from other teams.
What does Pitt add to push above another team?

 

[Canucks LB]

eh, not really. if it's a late 1st.

Thank you, a Logical Pens fan.
I think if it was Marino + 1st + 2nd, That's a much more realistic proposal, and fits team needs much more.
But based on what pens fans are saying, Marino is a bit of a fan favorite, Doubt that happens.