Salary Cap: Pens '24-'25 Salary Thread: The Crosbicles Volume XIX

[CheckingLineCenter]

Seattle already had two terrible goalie contracts and decided to pay another one after 1 good year. Seattle is so cooked. Those Stephenson and Montour contracts are gonna age like milk

Stephenson deal was a joke.

Feel bad for their fans. Very poorly run. Good news is they seem to draft well and cap is going up I guess. But the prospects do have to become players at some point.

 

[Gurglesons]

Maybe Jarry will be moveable lol

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Maybe Jarry will be moveable lol

That's what I keep thinking with all these new goalie deals. He's gonna be paid like a middle of the road starter, which I guess he is. Maybe someone takes a shot at getting more outta him or something.

 

[Sideline]

Maybe Jarry will be moveable lol

He's right around market rate for a starter with consistency issues. That makes a lot of people mad on this board because they've anchor expectations against MAF making 5.5MM for years, but they forget the cap was like 40% lower then.

 

[Dipsy Doodle]

He was intended to insulate Letang, like he did Makar.

What makes you think it wasn't the other way around?

 

[Gurglesons]

He's right around market rate for a starter with consistency issues. That makes a lot of people mad on this board because they've anchor expectations against MAF making 5.5MM for years, but they forget the cap was like 40% lower then.

No, the issue is he sucks ass and we gave him a high hit and term.

 

[Sideline]

No, the issue is he sucks ass and we gave him a high hit and term.

Lol he's mid and his hit isn't high as you can see from other mid guys getting 5MM, good guys getting 8MM, and the ultra elite turning down 11MM.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Jarrys cap hit looking pretty good now.

I won't fault Dubas for Signing Jarry.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

Jarrys cap hit looking pretty good now.

I won't fault Dubas for Signing Jarry.

100%
Last summer, it was him or Korpisalo. Can't say KD really f***ed up on that one

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

No, the issue is he sucks ass and we gave him a high hit and term.

Let's also not pretend like if our defense has been great say the last 4-5 years. I mean we must be one of the teams that give up the most odd man scoring chances from brain farts like coming from Letang and company..

I mean the guy did finish last season tied for 1st in league shutouts with 6!!

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Jarrys cap hit looking pretty good now.

I won't fault Dubas for Signing Jarry.

Yeah, it's just that he sucks and he's unlikable as hell.

 

[PensFutures]

Did Jarry become one of the best goalie contracts in the league almost overnight?

 

[McGroarty2]

Stephenson deal was a joke.

Feel bad for their fans. Very poorly run. Good news is they seem to draft well and cap is going up I guess. But the prospects do have to become players at some point.

Would you do a Graves for Stephenson swap?

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Would you do a Graves for Stephenson swap?

Prob not tbh

but wouldn’t be mad at it either

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Yeah, it's just that he sucks and he's unlikable as hell.

He was nice to my brother when he met him haha.

But he is a bit of a whiner.

Did Jarry become one of the best goalie contracts in the league almost overnight?

He isnt but his contract rankings went up.

Would you do a Graves for Stephenson swap?

What's the add on Stephenson


6.25 for 7 years is a ton.

Atleast Graves is 5 years at 4.5 million.

 

[Turin]

Graves had the same issues on the Devils. I remember him getting walked repeatedly in their series against the Canes and I remember him making a lot of the same bonehead plays for the Devils that he did here.

He didn't suddenly become a bum here. The Devils just sheltered his weaknesses better because they're a better team.

Nah. He was playing against the other teams best lines every night and wasn’t getting eaten alive.

 

[SEALBound]

There's been a complete disconnect across multiple regimes now between what new players actually are and what the team thinks they're getting. I don't know if it's a pro scouting issue or Sullivan pounding the table to get guys he thinks he can "fix"

It's tough to know exactly how guys will fare in a system. Some do well, others don't. I would suggest that, objectively speaking, I do think more tend to do okay vs those that don't. It's just incredibly easy to hyperfocus on those that don't do well - like Graves.

Lately, I think the payment of taking the player is driving decisions. Hayes and Glass are examples of guys that may not fit 100% but you try anyway because you're getting extra picks.

That said, I do think there's something to be said for Sullivan's system. Plenty of good players come here and struggle.

Stephenson deal was a joke.

Feel bad for their fans. Very poorly run. Good news is they seem to draft well and cap is going up I guess. But the prospects do have to become players at some point.

I think they'll be okay. Everything else they have are on relatively shorter deals. Only a couple longer term deals and the cap is going up.

Both Montour and Stephenson were risky deals but if they perform, they will certainly help the team. I actually do like their lineup all things considered.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

I actually do like their lineup all things considered.

 

[chethejet]

Well cap going up helps to make those contracts OK over the term. But both are just not worth that AAV. Jarry certainly has a better roster in front of him. Graves is my bounce back candidate as he is used more as a limited zone D man. He simply can't jump into the play and get back to cover. Pairing him with St Ivany who brings more physical play and good net front clearing help him as well. I liked Stephenson but not close to that number. I certainly don't need that deal now that Rutger M is going to play LW and be an all-around physical presence on the third line.

 

[Ulf5]

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[Turin]

Where the hell is the GDT?

 

[Malkinstheman]

Where the hell is the GDT?

GDT: - Game 1 - Penguins vs Rangers - 7:30 PM - All My Happiness is Gone

Doc is playing fing awful. Bench worthy. So naturally Sully gives him to Geno since Sid has already had enough

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You might have gurgles on ignore lol

 

[Turin]

GDT: - Game 1 - Penguins vs Rangers - 7:30 PM - All My Happiness is Gone

Doc is playing fing awful. Bench worthy. So naturally Sully gives him to Geno since Sid has already had enough

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You might have gurgles on ignore lol

Damn yea

 

[HandshakeLine]

What’s really important is that our game was gotten to.

 

[SEALBound]

McCann-Beniers-Eberle
Schwartz-Stephenson-Burakovsky
Tolvanen-Wright-Bjorkstrand
Kartye-Gourde-Tanev or Gourde-Kartye-Tanev

Dunn-Larsson
Oleksiak-Montour
Evans-Borgen

I think that's a solid group for being a 3yo franchise. Center depth is average, wing pairings are solid, solid top 4...I mean, when you can run Gourde-Tanev as a pairing on the 4th line, it speaks to good depth. I think their bigger question marks are around goaltending.