GDT: Pens 2024 Trade Deadline Thread: Jake Shake Talk here

[Turin]

So, I think we can say Dubas was at least as bad as Hextall.

Uhh, no.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

So, I think we can say Dubas was at least as bad as Hextall.

I feel like that's fine to say but with the caveat that the assets this team has had to burn to keep "fixing" the roster to make it "more Sullivan proof" has been the issue for 7 seasons and it's left this team in this state where the GM can only do so much.

 

[HandshakeLine]

He should have moved Jake as this team isn't going anywhere. The key is if these assets we accrued amount to something.

How do you feel about our grand restocking, my man?

Uhh, no.

I’m all ears as to how he has had a better performance.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Boston and Edmonton aint gonna be pretty, stock up on the booze gentlemen.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Uhh, no.

Your hatred of Hextall is guided by Rossi and Yohe, you should be ashamed.

 

[molon labe]

Can't? Or won't?

They amount to the same thing ultimately, but from a philosophical point of view I'm not sure which is worse.

Hundred percent.

Today's presser has me feeling like he won't. That keeping Sullivan around is good for whatever mental game that f***er is playing.

...likely that he wants to just keep running this thing to the ground and has no intentions of building a competitive roster. Which would be on brand for making zero moves this year.

 

[Epic Neal Time]

Unpopular opinion - the low action on our side was the best decision. I'd have rather re-signed Jake, but less-than-expected moves isn't the worst thing. The prices were unbelievably low and we sold our two UFAs that had value. Smith/Eller/Acciari will have more value in the summer when teams have cap space. There was no urgency to trade them for scraps today.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

So, I think we can say Dubas was at least as bad as Hextall.

In that he's too cowardly/stupid to fire Sullivan or call the era dead. For sure.

We'll see how he does with the post-Sid shit. Not confident, but that's all that matters. This team's just circling the runway, waiting for Sid to retire after 2025-26 and allow the era to fully die. Until then, he's just gonna keep the team hostage cuz he wants to play in one final Olympics and the team's too cowardly/stupid to say "Okay, well deal with a rebuild in the meantime or tell us where you want to be dealt."

 

[BusinessGoose]

How do you feel about our grand restocking, my man?


I’m all ears as to how he has had a better performance.

With it seeming like Jake was ready to entertain walking... Getting something is better than nothing...

? Shrug?

 

[ZorkEnchanter]

So, I think we can say Dubas was at least as bad as Hextall.

Yup. If they keep Sullivan and these are his moves. He's basically Hextall.

I think we can safely say ... the 2 scoring lines and 2 turtle lines do not work and we need to modernize our coaching philosophy.

 

[HandshakeLine]

I feel like that's fine to say but with the caveat that the assets this team has had to burn to keep "fixing" the roster to make it "more Sullivan proof" has been the issue for 7 seasons and it's left this team in this state where the GM can only do so much.

The funny thing is the GM can fire the coach, especially when the GM is also the President of Hockey Operations, which oversees the GM.

 

[Kristopher Letang]

Feels like Dubas is doing his best get rid of SJ’s 1st this year without major pain.

 

[Zbynek]

Your hatred of Hextall is guided by Rossi and Yohe, you should be ashamed.

There's some truth to this. FSG Sycophant Kyle has the backing of Pittsburgh media, and Hextall never did. Pathetic how no one called Dubas out in that presser. Why do i even watch these? I won't be doing that anymore.

 

[BusinessGoose]

The funny thing is the GM can fire the coach, especially when the GM is also the President of Hockey Operations, which oversees the GM.

Does Dubas negotiate with himself in the mirror?

A) Yes
B) Obviously

 

[HandshakeLine]

I think I’m smarter than Dubas and my name is Letang.

Goddamn, that’s savage.

Does Dubas negotiate with himself in the mirror?

A) Yes
B) Obviously

He does and still signed himself to a bad deal!

 

[TKalltheTime]

I just think it’s so funny that all these pie in the sky nerds concocted this whole story in their heads of “yeah Jake was in on the trade and wanting to get prospects & picks with the understanding he was coming back on July 1st!!!!1! He was a penguin secret op!1!1!” I wonder how all these dorks J6 charges and court dates are going…

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

The funny thing is the GM can fire the coach, especially when the GM is also the President of Hockey Operations, which oversees the GM.

Pittsburgh Icon > President of Hockey Operations, however.

 

[Kristopher Letang]

Honestly I’m not sure why Dubas came here lol The Pens GM job is a trap unless the big 3 decide to leave.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

The funny thing is the GM can fire the coach, especially when the GM is also the President of Hockey Operations, which oversees the GM.

And the ownership group of said team fell over themselves abandoning a weeks-long search and interview process to send a private jet to fly him into town for a wine, dine, $69 million deal.

If Dubas wanted to fire Sullivan, he'd have fired him and had nobody to question his decision. Sully's owed like $25 million, which is something like 0.036% of FSG's $7 billion net worth.

Dubas just admires and respects Sullivan too much. He absolutely thinks he's a great coach in the midst of unfortunate circumstances.

 

[Ragamuffin Gunner]

lame

 

[TKalltheTime]

I think I’m smarter than Dubas and my name is Letang.

And somehow you managed to put the puck into our own net and be a -4 already just with this post! *slow clap* bravo

 

[Honour Over Glory]

The funny thing is the GM can fire the coach, especially when the GM is also the President of Hockey Operations, which oversees the GM.

I agree but in this situation alone - FSG negotiated directly with Mike Sullivan and there's likely a mandate of "IF you want to fire Mike Sullivan, you need to approach us first" in his contract or when they hired him because this is a coach that the ownership has been on the record of being very enamoured with. To the point of asking him directly to help with the GM search, WBS, Development of WBS and etc.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Honestly I’m not sure why Dubas came here lol The Pens GM job is a trap unless the big 3 decide to leave.

It's poison lol

I bet the other people the pens interviewed all were like.. Naw thanks fam I'm good

 

[vikingGoalie]

while who knows if Dubas will move on from Sullivan this summer (I doubt it) I do think that come next fall if the team isn't playing for him (see caps game) he's gone before christmas

 

[HandshakeLine]

Pittsburgh Icon > President of Hockey Operations, however.

It's true, that's why the had to kill Pascal Dupuis in the end.