GDT: Pens 2024 Trade Deadline Thread: Jake Shake Talk here

[BusinessGoose]

I'm talking about the recent front office in the past 4 years. It's very comparable to the Pirates and their strategy of a quiring players. Can't really compare cap and no cap, but the Pirates have an internal cap they adhere too. Instead of getting actual players with talent, they grab a bunch of free agents veteran fodder and lesser prospects hoping to hit one for cheap. This is what Dubas and the penguins have done.

Id love for the pens to sign an aged vet like McCutchen, Tellez, or last year Santana. Or hitva Cruz or Rodriguez.

Pens can't compare to the Pirates success

Yes it hurts to say that with a serious face

 

[TimmyD]

The problem isn’t that you traded Jake Kyle… it’s that you got a terrible return

 

[IcedCapp]

Look, I’m not gonna guess what happened over the summer or during the season. Maybe they tried and jakes camp wouldn’t talk, maybe they didn’t try. No clue.

But it’s entirely possible that Jake goes to Carolina, finds the grass isn’t greener, and wants to come back.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

I’d take another Granlund trade over whatever the hell we just did.

Well that’s batshit insane.

 

[TKalltheTime]

That presser was even worse than expected too… way to stay on brand Kyle!

 

[WickedWrister]

Hilarious you think Mike will play him or that will happen LOL

I'm just quoting Dubas from the presser.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Ludovic Waebe
Conditional seventh-round pick (2027)

For Hellberg....meh.

Nothing of value for Hellberg (also nothing of value really).

 

[Dennis Reynolds]

Hopefully they re-sign him then.

I like him more than Jarry, so I certainly wouldn't mind that.

But it seems he's priced himself out of Pittsburgh with his play this year.

So now we're likely just letting him walk.

 

[IcedCapp]

The problem isn’t that you traded Jake Kyle… it’s that you got a terrible return

Then the problem is he traded Jake. I seriously doubt he had a better offer and turned it down

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

"I think we showed that in the Summer [we believe in this group]"

Dude, you can MAKE IN SEASON MOVES HOW f***ING STUPID ARE YOU DUBAS

Honestly, he's flat out lying. No different than Hextall. He wants, badly, to tank this f***ing team so he can sell it and rebuild to his Soo boys. No other rationale for looking at this dog meat roster construction and making ZERO moves. f*** you man.

"We believe in this group" has become the new idiotic catchphrase around the Penguins.

Because it signifies either you have no clue how to fix things and have to save face, or you're delusional and can't recognize a fast sinking ship when you see it. Neither bodes well for the future.

 

[pensfan71]

 

[eXile3]

Yep. Pretty much confirmed it was his choice to move Jake.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Honestly, good for Jake for being like "Yeah, f*** this shit. I'm off this sinking ship asap."

Never had legit discussion on an extension with the Penguins beyond the team approaching his camp and being told it'd have to wait until after the season.

Dude was OUT. Boosts my respect of the dork quite a bit tbh.

 

[vikingGoalie]

meh, i mean it's hard to be excited on TDL day when your team is a big turd on ice.
big diff between
"what did we get that might push us into contender status..."
vs
"what did we get on today's fire sale..."

 

[Factorial]

f***ing dubas talking about next deadline.

They have just tipped their hand - they're throwing the towel in.

Find another team folks. f*** them.

Please do.

 

[HandshakeLine]

So, I think we can say Dubas was at least as bad as Hextall.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I like him more than Jarry, so I certainly wouldn't mind that.

But it seems he's priced himself out of Pittsburgh with his play this year.

So now we're likely just letting him walk.

Ned has been a solid back up but the way he's been used has been idiotic, if they don't plan to re-sign him and then didn't trade him at the deadline, that's a major f*** up on Kyle's part. I don't think Ned has been better than Jarry though, I won't go down that path of stupid rationale.

 

[EVGENIMERLIN]

Hertl got 2 firsts and 2 thirds

Hertl has what 4/5 years left on his deal? Not comparable

 

[BusinessGoose]

I've left some sinking ships before

It's nice

Grass often isn't greener, but when you see the burning husk you left, it's pretty nice

 

[tom_servo]

There was a deadline today?

 

[Ryder71]

He should of moved Jake as this team isn't going anywhere. The key is if these assets we accrued amount to something.

 

[molon labe]

Yep. Pretty much confirmed it was his choice to move Jake.

Yeah for folks wondering he walked away from the question about negotiating with Jake quickly. Wanted no part of that and wanted options going forward.

Don't forget the first minute of the presser talking about guys' values this Summer and next deadline. Dude has zero intentions of building a competitive team and probably loves Sullivan here as a result. Gives him every excuse to just run the shit to the ground.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Because he can't fire Sullivan. That alone gives me constipation at the thought.

Can't? Or won't?

They amount to the same thing ultimately, but from a philosophical point of view I'm not sure which is worse.

 

[Zbynek]

So, I think we can say Dubas was at least as bad as Hextall.

Worse

 

[Kristopher Letang]

I think I’m smarter than Dubas and my name is Letang.