Player Discussion: Patrik Laine IVever: a new hope? (Laine out of PAP, trade request still stands)

[Halberdier]

This is not even true anymore. Give them break. Laine first broke elbow, then Danfort & Boqvist are out, followed by Werenski, Gudbransson and Blankenburg. And now Laine again.

What next? Johnny out for the season? Boone breaks his back again?

Edit: forgot Voracek. Out of their 4 highest paid skaters, 3 are out. See you guys in the tank thread! Even @Viqsi has to join tank platoon now...

 

[Seedtype]

I'm not superstitious. But man, this team makes me wonder...

 

[ThirdPeriodTurtle]

It's funny because Sillinger was the one I was worried about after that collision (I guess Laine was "seen limping" but Silly seemed to get the bigger hit). So of course Laine is the one with the injury.

Could open the opportunity to try Johnson with Johnny. The team has played better as of late but what do we have to lose at this point...

 

[NotCommitted]

OMG is this even real...

 

[Jive Pawnbroker]

Does anyone have a live chicken that we can sacrifice lol?

 

[Viqsi]

This is not even true anymore. Give them break. Laine first broke elbow, then Danfort & Boqvist are out, followed by Werenski, Gudbransson and Blankenburg. And now Laine again.

What next? Johnny out for the season? Boone breaks his back again?

Edit: forgot Voracek. Out of their 4 highest paid skaters, 3 are out. See you guys in the tank thread! Even @Viqsi has to join tank platoon now...

Here are the circumstances under which I will support a team full-on-tanking (that is, stripping everything down to the bare frame to try to force more losing):

• The team in question is one I hate and which I want to see condemned to a decade or more of consistent failure

...
That's it. That's the list. And I don't hate the Blue Jackets. I could never hate my boys.

 

[Viqsi]

Does anyone have a live chicken that we can sacrifice lol?

We tried that already back in the aughts and all it got us was the chance to draft Nikita Filatov.

 

[Cowumbus]

At what point do we say that Laine might be injury prone?

 

[CBJWerenski8]

At what point do we say that Laine might be injury prone?

Now. Because he is

 

[BB88]

Here are the circumstances under which I will support a team full-on-tanking (that is, stripping everything down to the bare frame to try to force more losing):

• The team in question is one I hate and which I want to see condemned to a decade or more of consistent failure

...
That's it. That's the list. And I don't hate the Blue Jackets. I could never hate my boys.

I don’t think anyone is suggesting that.

More of let the nature take care of things and see where the cards land

At what point do we say that Laine might be injury prone?

He’s had that concern for few years now I’d say

 

[Viqsi]

I don’t think anyone is suggesting that.

More of let the nature take care of things and see where the cards land

Any time you see somebody suggest we need to lose more games or lamenting wins (i.e. implying that we should have "done something" to ensure a lower position), that's basically where they're pointing.

I can live with "see where the cards land". It's the "force failure" position I will never have any time or patience for.

 

[BB88]

Any time you see somebody suggest we need to lose more games or lamenting wins (i.e. implying that we should have "done something" to ensure a lower position), that's basically where they're pointing.

I can live with "see where the cards land". It's the "force failure" position I will never have any time or patience for.

I think there can still be a difference what they mean.

For me it’s just about reality. They were the last team in the East with a healthy lineup and now 3 key pieces will be missing time longterm.
On a conference that’s incredible strong it’s about impossible to make a push that makes sense.

 

[Viqsi]

I think there can still be a difference what they mean.

For me it’s just about reality. They were the last team in the East with a healthy lineup and now 3 key pieces will be missing time longterm.
On a conference that’s incredible strong it’s about impossible to make a push that makes sense.

I thnk of it more as "never stop trying to win, even if that result is pretty damned unlikely at this point."

 

[BB88]

I thnk of it more as "never stop trying to win, even if that result is pretty damned unlikely at this point."

Sure, as long as that doesn’t mean them doing something stupid while trying to achieve that.

So let the nature take care of things and see what happens.

 

[CBJWerenski8]

 

[Iron Balls McGinty]

At what point do we say that Laine might be injury prone?

It's easier to name people on this team who aren't injury prone.

No Iron Man streaks in this group.

 

[VT]

So it wasn't showing the referee that he didn't foul, or lack of effort. Hmm, and we ticked him off for it.

 

[Halberdier]

Here are the circumstances under which I will support a team full-on-tanking (that is, stripping everything down to the bare frame to try to force more losing):

• The team in question is one I hate and which I want to see condemned to a decade or more of consistent failure

...
That's it. That's the list. And I don't hate the Blue Jackets. I could never hate my boys.

I fully agree with the sentiment. I have never liked the idea of tanking. Just right now quite rough road is to be expected. Not by deliberately losing, but unless Jarmo makes a lot of trades (which he absolutely should not do, unless it's about trading out pieces) team is going down. I want to see them play good hockey and learn as they go, but my hopes for playoff run have been totally vanished some time ago.

Just show some development on coaching side of things, some individual progress for the guys and some good moments scoring and winning here and there.

 

[Halberdier]

At what point do we say that Laine might be injury prone?

Somewhere around 20-21, I guess. Though 18-19 was already worrying.

His 16-17, 17-18 and 19-20 seasons were mostly injury free, though 19-20 postseason ended right away with an injury.

Some themes like with his back had been recurring theme, but maybe these elbow and ankle injuries are just bad luck? Crap like that happens sometimes.

 

[Halberdier]

Did he hurt his ankle on the tank?

Tanks are actually pretty rough for your ankles, speaking from an experience. Back in military service I had to do a lot of climbing on and off tanks, and my ankles were pretty bad shape at that time.

 

[Forepar]

He's gonna go off soon and keep rolling.

Did you mean go off the ice? Not trolling Laine, just trolling this God-forsaken season.

 

[Halfboard]

I'm not superstitious. But man, this team makes me wonder...

Penitentiary......

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

He's gonna go off soon and keep rolling.

Did you mean go off the ice? Not trolling Laine, just trolling this God-forsaken season.

And keep rolling

 

[koteka]

And keep rolling
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Next helmet sponsor is a company that makes those scooter things?

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Did you mean go off the ice? Not trolling Laine, just trolling this God-forsaken season.

Whoops