Similar age, similar scoring rates over the last few seasons. Both only have 1 PPG season.I assume Laine is in Fiala's tier as a player, right?
Gotta impact extension discussions for Laine.
I assume Laine is in Fiala's tier as a player, right?
Yeah but if Laine/his camp were willing to accept a contract in the 8m range I would have to think the contract would be done by now.As a hockey player, yes.
There are some that think we should give Laine a blank check for other reasons (because he’s a bigger star, etc...). I think we should keep the focus on their value as players so that we can build a winner. $8m is much closer to Laine's reasonable value than $9m is.
Yeah but if Laine/his camp were willing to accept a contract in the 8m range I would have to think the contract would be done by now.
No.So what does that mean for his appropriate contract, that he should get paid more because he wants more?
Just to be clear, there’s a HUGE difference between lacking “defensive awareness” and lacking intensity and heart.
Guys like Del Zotto, Jack Johnson, and James Wisniewski lack 1 of these attributes, guys like Laine, Roslovic and Boqvist are missing ALL of it.
Hilarious that people give so much weight to (positive/uplifting/reassuring) comments given to local media regarding other current teammates that are literally nothing more than literal public relations, and yet in UNFILTERED situations like this where true feelings come out, so many Laine fans are downplaying what Del Zotto has said, as if nobody else in the organization/on the team felt or feels this way also.
The pro-Laine party says, “His teammates and coaches actually say this” about his play. They literally have to say positive things so he doesn’t pout and play bad.
Even with all the puff pieces, let’s not act as if Del Zotto is the 1st player to make negative comments regarding Laine. I seem to remember both Atkinson and Jones making comments. Ironically, both guys were apart of the teams most successful times and no longer part of the organization that involves Laine, AND NOW SUCKS!!
Not to mention, BOTH Larsen and Torts have had issues with him. Why does all this stuff get ignored or brushed off, and/or people act as if there aren’t MULTIPLE people in the organization (present and past) that have hinted or made comments similar to MDZ??
Arbitration will give Laine about 8 million and UFA so that is also limiting GM's hand.No.
It means I think Laine wants 9 million (maybe more) and if that’s the case the Jackets will likely have to spend close to that number to keep him. If they want to, of course.
I assume Laine is in Fiala's tier as a player, right?
Laine has a better CV but currently about the same.
Of course Fiala has Kaprizov factor.
You mean Freddy Hockey?The amazing thing about Fiala's scoring is that he did it without playing with Kaprizov, or anyone good for most of his years in Minny. His best ever linemate with the Wild was Matt Boldy, who joined partway through the year, and his center was some guy named Frederick Gaudreau.
The amazing thing about Fiala's scoring is that he did it without playing with Kaprizov, or anyone good for most of his years in Minny. His best ever linemate with the Wild was Matt Boldy, who joined partway through the year, and his center was some guy named Frederick Gaudreau.
I think we are going to pay around 9m per to keep him. Columbus still doesn't have the history to get big names via free agency so keeping guys who are ours is key right now. We almost have to overpay for a star right now and Laine is the biggest star we have had after Nash and Panarin. Overpaying for anyone is a risk, a risk i think we need to take, the question is, Is Laine the guy we want to overpay?
That explains to me his second season under Lars and their relationship with each other. Of course I know what you mean.Just to be clear, there’s a HUGE difference between lacking “defensive awareness” and lacking intensity and heart.
Guys like Del Zotto, Jack Johnson, and James Wisniewski lack 1 of these attributes, guys like Laine, Roslovic and Boqvist are missing ALL of it.
Hilarious that people give so much weight to (positive/uplifting/reassuring) comments given to local media regarding other current teammates that are literally nothing more than literal public relations, and yet in UNFILTERED situations like this where true feelings come out, so many Laine fans are downplaying what Del Zotto has said, as if nobody else in the organization/on the team felt or feels this way also.
The pro-Laine party says, “His teammates and coaches actually say this” about his play. They literally have to say positive things so he doesn’t pout and play bad.
Even with all the puff pieces, let’s not act as if Del Zotto is the 1st player to make negative comments regarding Laine. I seem to remember both Atkinson and Jones making comments. Ironically, both guys were apart of the teams most successful times and no longer part of the organization that involves Laine, AND NOW SUCKS!!
Not to mention, BOTH Larsen and Torts have had issues with him. Why does all this stuff get ignored or brushed off, and/or people act as if there aren’t MULTIPLE people in the organization (present and past) that have hinted or made comments similar to MDZ??
He’s a player.
Everyones numbers just seemed to jump up once Kaprizov joined them.
If Jarmo can get Laine anywhere near that contract it would be a great work.
& when I talk of Laines value/contract I don’t talk what I’d in real life pay him but try to be realistic what the league would pay him and what he can ask.
In real life value I’d put him at around 7 probably but with his CV, status, leagues history of paying players(comps) & potential I know that’s not realistic.
He’s too inconsistent to be paid like a superstar or true ppg player but has done too much, has still room to grow and star status to get paid like top6 guy
Who is paying Laine $9m if we don't? I'm honestly not sure what his open market value is. There's going to be some teams that don't want him at all and still have him on a no go list despite his strong season. It is a bit worrying if Laine is asking for more than the Jackets value him and also asking for more than any team values him, because then we can't trade him either.
Who is paying Laine $9m if we don't? I'm honestly not sure what his open market value is. There's going to be some teams that don't want him at all and still have him on a no go list despite his strong season. It is a bit worrying if Laine is asking for more than the Jackets value him and also asking for more than any team values him, because then we can't trade him either.
Florida hired Paul Maurice, I doubt that they would have to pay him extraGm’s spend crazy money every offseason.
Skinner is making 9M, San Jose offered 13M for Tavares if I remember right, JVR is making 7M on a longterm deal.
Gaudreau, Kadri& Klingberg are prime candidates for crazy contracts this summer.
With Laine a team no matter the term will be buying prime years.
So with his age+ potential he’s a much nicer option to spend than around 30y players looking at big payday and term.
I hope Laine settles between 8-9 with term this summer& if he was UFA now he’d have a market.
Teams like Florida& Carolina really struggled with a lack of sniper(Florida wouldn’t pay him)