Value of: Patrick Kane to the Sabres at the trade deadline

[57special]

More than $9 M for Kane at his age. I'll take some of what you are having.

You must not watch much of him. He is still an elite player. 9M for him would be relatively cheap, in a world where Jones, Nurse, Skinner, etc. are being paid more than that. He had 92 points last year, and has had more than a PPG(often far more) for every season in his past 10 save one.
Maybe being a Sabres fan you aren't familiar with this type of player, unless you are old enough to remember Perreault.

 

[BayStBullies]

Why would a non-contender sign a rental?

 

[Djp]

There will be a bidding war for Kane at the deadline.

I would want to trade Kane now, even for a disappointing return, to go to full tank.

he has full NMC so if he dies something like what Hall did and what Iginaka did in the past there will only be a short list of 2-3 teams and nobody will go beyond a 2nd+B

You must not watch much of him. He is still an elite player. 9M for him would be relatively cheap, in a world where Jones, Nurse, Skinner, etc. are being paid more than that. He had 92 points last year, and has had more than a PPG(often far more) for every season in his past 10 save one.
Maybe being a Sabres fan you aren't familiar with this type of player, unless you are old enough to remember Perreault.

i would not commit long term to Kane and that high. I’m not screwing over the team to sign him given his sge.

 

[jaysoneil]

I doubt it. Makes no sense for him or the team.

Unfortunately, the team has no say in it. And it makes complete sense for Kane.

 

[Rubi]

I can't see why Buffalo would be interested in signing P Kane and why would he want to go back to Buffalo? I get it that he grew up in Buffalo but lots of people grow up in places and move on and have no desire whatsoever to return to their roots.

 

[hawksrule]

Unfortunately, the team has no say in it. And it makes complete sense for Kane.

Kane is a great player languishing on a terrible team. I guess you’re entitled to think that he wouldn’t want to spend a few months at the end of the season playing for a good team, with good players, and chase another Cup. You can insist all you want that he wouldn’t, but that’s what makes no sense.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

You must not watch much of him. He is still an elite player. 9M for him would be relatively cheap, in a world where Jones, Nurse, Skinner, etc. are being paid more than that. He had 92 points last year, and has had more than a PPG(often far more) for every season in his past 10 save one.
Maybe being a Sabres fan you aren't familiar with this type of player, unless you are old enough to remember Perreault.

On two-year deal, maybe 3 but he's up there in age

 

[GaryPoppins]

If im Buffalo, I let him come home when his contract is up. Save the assets and build experience.. by contract expiration, they might be ready to contend.

Of course there’s the “he may not come for free, just capitalize now” but Chicago’s ask will be substantial. Let another team pay. If he really does want to come home, he will.

 

[jaysoneil]

Kane is a great player languishing on a terrible team. I guess you’re entitled to think that he wouldn’t want to spend a few months at the end of the season playing for a good team, with good players, and chase another Cup. You can insist all you want that he wouldn’t, but that’s what makes no sense.

I don't believe he's looking to chase another Cup this year. He can play for a good team, with good players and chase another Cup for the remainder of his career. Could he this year? Sure, but he's a FA at the end of the year, where he can choose where to relocate his family over the course of the summer, instead of mid-season.

It actually makes more sense than leaving mid-season, but who are we to know what he really wants to do.

 

[FerrisRox]

That’s very possible.
Also strong that Kane chases a deep playoff run and re-signs with Chicago to make a run at team scoring records.
Chicago will have tons of cap space, could pay him 11 - 12 mill on a 1 year deal and move him again (50% retained) at the TDL.

Kane would be a fool to take the risk of signing a one year contract just to chase "team records."

More than $9 M for Kane at his age. I'll take some of what you are having.

Are you unfamiliar with Patrick Kane? He is absolutely, without a doubt, still worth $9 million a season.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Kane would be a fool to take the risk of signing a one year contract just to chase "team records."



Are you unfamiliar with Patrick Kane? He is absolutely, without a doubt, still worth $9 million a season.

Anything beyond 3 years is a massive risk. If someone signs him to 5-6 years at $9 M, all the best.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

This whole thread is kind of a joke but 08 was a long time ago so nobody cares and who exactly ranked Detroit's pipeline ahead of Buffalo? Link below is from 2 days ago, The Hockey Writers. Buffalo at #1 and Det at #3 so good on them but false on you. It certainly wasn't The Athletic. Just who is telling you this?

The NHL’s Best Farm Systems Ranked - 2024-25 Midseason Update - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More

Just like the NHL clubs, their prospect pools are all at different stages. This piece will take a look at every NHL farm system ranking.

thehockeywriters.com

The hockey writers have THEODOR NIEDERBACH as Detroit’s 5th best prospect on that list. There are at least 8 other prospects ahead of him.

 

[BlueBaron]

This is a pretty odd thread.

I'm going to entertain the idea that Buffalo puts it all together and is poised to make the playoffs.

I still would not trade for Kane unless you can talk extention. Better to save assets and try to snag him as a free agent.

But you want to reward your fans and show them you are serious. A 1rst a player and a prospect is the usual cost but Kane will be on the highest end of that.

I don't know Buffalo's prospect chart well enough to pick anyone but I'd assume one of your top prospects is in the ask I guess that plus a first and a winger who can play seems like a logical ask from an outsider. Chicago fans probably could be more specific.

 

[BFLO]

Anything beyond 3 years is a massive risk. If someone signs him to 5-6 years at $9 M, all the best.

I'd happily sign Kane to $9mil x 5 next year, if the Skinner contract weren't already taking up that space.

For those that haven't looked recently: the Sabres still owe Skinner $9x4 after this season.

 

[Holymakinaw]

Has anyone thought to ask Patrick Kane if he'd be interested in going to one of the league's worst teams, where he'll have zero chance at any success? Might want to send him a quick email or something.

 

[BFLO]

This is a pretty odd thread.

I'm going to entertain the idea that Buffalo puts it all together and is poised to make the playoffs.

I still would not trade for Kane unless you can talk extention. Better to save assets and try to snag him as a free agent.

But you want to reward your fans and show them you are serious. A 1rst a player and a prospect is the usual cost but Kane will be on the highest end of that.

I don't know Buffalo's prospect chart well enough to pick anyone but I'd assume one of your top prospects is in the ask I guess that plus a first and a winger who can play seems like a logical ask from an outsider. Chicago fans probably could be more specific.

If Kane is willing to waive his NMC to be traded to wild card Buffalo I'd assume he'd also wants to be extended there. If he choses Buffalo and refuses a trade anywhere else what can CHI hope to get back? A 2nd and a body?

 

[BlueBaron]

If Kane is willing to waive his NMC to be traded to wild card Buffalo I'd assume he'd also wants to be extended there. If he choses Buffalo and refuses a trade anywhere else what can CHI hope to get back? A 2nd and a body?

I don't know? I only volunteered a basic price. It's rare for players to be that specific. It's hard to imagine a scenario where he would rather miss the playoffs than not be a Sabre.

We saw this with Giroux but he still got a substantial return. I see no reason to assume magical circumstances here.

 

[Djp]

I don't know? I only volunteered a basic price. It's rare for players to be that specific. It's hard to imagine a scenario where he would rather miss the playoffs than not be a Sabre.

We saw this with Giroux but he still got a substantial return. I see no reason to assume magical circumstances here.

difference is a NMC Kane could use.

when Iginka was to be a UFA. He seriously limited the teams he’d go to which limited it to 2 teams outside the conference. With only 2 teams you seriously limit the market.

it happened with buffalo and Hall too. Hr limited it to Boston and they got a 2nd+ avg player

on top of that…
look at teams who have moved a bunch of 1sts over the last few years ( tampa, Florida, Calgary) and you have teams who traded away their 2023 2nds.
if it’s a close playoff race ehere at the deadline you only have 4-6 out of the playoffs, most bubble teams will not put up a 1st

there will be a very limited 1st round pick moving market

 

[Mrfenn92]

On two-year deal, maybe 3 but he's up there in age

Just silliness here

 

[BFLO]

I don't know? I only volunteered a basic price. It's rare for players to be that specific. It's hard to imagine a scenario where he would rather miss the playoffs than not be a Sabre.

We saw this with Giroux but he still got a substantial return. I see no reason to assume magical circumstances here.

But the entire premise of the thread is that there are magical circumstances.

A: The Sabres are in playoff contention
B: Kane will only waive for Buffalo

When players do get that specific they don't return much.

I could honestly see Chicago keep him out of spite rather than accept a 2nd rounder or whatever if these highly unlikely circumstances were to actually occur.

 

[BlueBaron]

But the entire premise of the thread is that there are magical circumstances.

A: The Sabres are in playoff contention
B: Kane will only waive for Buffalo

When players do get that specific they don't return much.

I could honestly see Chicago keep him out of spite rather than accept a 2nd rounder or whatever if these highly unlikely circumstances were to actually occur.

I missed his exclusive demand. You're right. It's too magical to take seriously then.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

I'd happily sign Kane to $9mil x 5 next year, if the Skinner contract weren't already taking up that space.

For those that haven't looked recently: the Sabres still owe Skinner $9x4 after this season.

One mistake doesn't mean you make another. I think they do have a chance to sign him in the off-season. Length will be the issue. No question he's a legit star today. The people who insist Sabres are bottom feeders are not really following the depth of the prospect. Does it dovetail with the remaining years Kane has in the league, I believe it does.

 

[flashsabre]

Has anyone thought to ask Patrick Kane if he'd be interested in going to one of the league's worst teams, where he'll have zero chance at any success? Might want to send him a quick email or something.

You must be a treat when the Sabres sh@tkick the Leafs each game.

 

[Team Cozens]

You must be a treat when the Sabres sh@tkick the Leafs each game.

LOL

 

[Space umpire]

Has anyone thought to ask Patrick Kane if he'd be interested in going to one of the league's worst teams, where he'll have zero chance at any success? Might want to send him a quick email or something.

Kane will be looking for a team set for a long playoff run. I’m guessing you’re upset because that eliminates the Leafs from consideration.