Value of: Patrick Kane to the Sabres at the trade deadline

[Jerkbait]

Washington, Pittsburgh and or Boston. IF Marner or Matthews go down with a season ending injury. Anything is possible. Islander should be back in the mix. I would not be surprised to see 2 of Detroit, Ottawa or Buffalo make the playoffs.

Pittsburgh is a lock. Crosby isn't ready to step back. It would take matthews and marner to go down for 50 plus for Toronto to miss. Washington is a bit of a wild card but they too are deeper than Buffalo. Ottawa NYI and Detroit will make it before Buffalo.

 

[VaporTrail]

There's absolutely no reason for Buffalo to give up assests for him after everything they've been building especially when he could just be signed as FA after the season is over

 

[jmelm]

Taylor Hall only wanted to go to Boston. Kane might want to only go to Buffalo.

BOS was a contender. BUF isn't yet.

 

[Team Cozens]

Yeah i'm sure Kane wants to go to a team that has a 0% chance of making the playoffs, Patrick Kane will go to a legit cup contender. And that sure as hell isn't Buffalo.

Awww, just because the Sabres are building a better pool of prospects and are further ahead than Detroit doesn’t need you to be so salty. It’s a shame Yzerman added vets to ruin a perfect opportunity to grab Bedard. So short sighted.

 

[Space umpire]

Awww, just because the Sabres are building a better pool of prospects and are further ahead than Detroit doesn’t need you to be so salty. It’s a shame Yzerman added vets to ruin a perfect opportunity to grab Bedard. So short sighted.

Yes, MAYBE Detroit after winning cups and being in play for several others are a bit behind Buffalo in building.
Buffalo had 1 good year where they rode a great goalie over a decade ago.
Face it, you think you’re further ahead but the Sabres have been in building mode since Punch Imlach left.
Full disclosure, I’m a Hawk fan, hate the wings. I just found your claim laughable.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Awww, just because the Sabres are building a better pool of prospects and are further ahead than Detroit doesn’t need you to be so salty. It’s a shame Yzerman added vets to ruin a perfect opportunity to grab Bedard. So short sighted.

Buffalo ahead and building a better pool of Prospect, Yeah than why is Detroit prospect pipeline ranked way ahead of Buffalo then? Not being salty only speaking of the facts. And i bet Detroit wins a cup before Buffalo does. And that's right Buffalo hasn't won a cup yet.

 

[Matt Ress]

Yeah i'm sure Kane wants to go to a team that has a 0% chance of making the playoffs, Patrick Kane will go to a legit cup contender. And that sure as hell isn't Buffalo.

What are your thoughts on resigning Larkin?

 

[Matt Ress]

Buffalo ahead and building a better pool of Prospect, Yeah than why is Detroit prospect pipeline ranked way ahead of Buffalo then? Not being salty only speaking of the facts. And i bet Detroit wins a cup before Buffalo does. And that's right Buffalo hasn't won a cup yet.

This whole thread is kind of a joke but 08 was a long time ago so nobody cares and who exactly ranked Detroit's pipeline ahead of Buffalo? Link below is from 2 days ago, The Hockey Writers. Buffalo at #1 and Det at #3 so good on them but false on you. It certainly wasn't The Athletic. Just who is telling you this?

The NHL’s Best Farm Systems Ranked - 2024-25 Midseason Update - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More

Just like the NHL clubs, their prospect pools are all at different stages. This piece will take a look at every NHL farm system ranking.

thehockeywriters.com

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

What are your thoughts on resigning Larkin?

I'm hopeful he's resigned by training camp time in 19 days. I think he'll come in around 8 x $8,500,000 or 8 x $9,000,000 at the most.

 

[Matt Ress]

Very calm, a bit surprised anyone would expect Kane to sign for roughly half his value.


LOL, because that will be his best chance to win a cup?

So no part of that post led you to believe it was all a joke?

 

[Matt Ress]

I'm hopeful he's resigned by training camp time in 19 days. I think he'll come in around 8 x $8,500,000 or 8 x $9,000,000

Yeah i'm sure Kane wants to go to a team that has a 0% chance of making the playoffs, Patrick Kane will go to a legit cup contender. And that sure as hell isn't Buffalo.

Idk what all the arguing is about

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

This whole thread is kind of a joke but 08 was a long time ago so nobody cares and who exactly ranked Detroit's pipeline ahead of Buffalo? Link below is from 2 days ago, The Hockey Writers. Buffalo at #1 and Det at #3 so good on them but false on you. It certainly wasn't The Athletic. Just who is telling you this?

The NHL’s Best Farm Systems Ranked - 2024-25 Midseason Update - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More

Just like the NHL clubs, their prospect pools are all at different stages. This piece will take a look at every NHL farm system ranking.

thehockeywriters.com

Yeah when you continuously play like garbage like Buffalo does, And no one wants to be there like Eichel, Reinhart and Ristolainen. then yeah you're bound to have a good prospect pool.

 

[Matt Ress]

Yeah when you continuously play like garbage like Buffalo does, And no one wants to be there like Eichel, Reinhart and Ristolainen. then yeah you're bound to have a good prospect pool.

So you just made a completely idiotic and false claim and now you're trying to defend it?
P.S. Detroit sucks too bro simmer down

 

[Space umpire]

This whole thread is kind of a joke but 08 was a long time ago so nobody cares and who exactly ranked Detroit's pipeline ahead of Buffalo? Link below is from 2 days ago, The Hockey Writers. Buffalo at #1 and Det at #3 so good on them but false on you. It certainly wasn't The Athletic. Just who is telling you this?

The NHL’s Best Farm Systems Ranked - 2024-25 Midseason Update - The Hockey Writers Latest News, Analysis & More

Just like the NHL clubs, their prospect pools are all at different stages. This piece will take a look at every NHL farm system ranking.

thehockeywriters.com

I’m not a Wings fan but did you read what you posted.
The Buffalo kids who played NHL games were counted in the prospect rankings.
Raymond and Seider (2 red wing rookies) were not considered because they both can close to winning the Calder.
So if Raymond and Seider were still considered which pool would you rather have?

 

[Chainshot]

Doing this thread again, eh?

 

[AvroArrow]

Awww, just because the Sabres are building a better pool of prospects and are further ahead than Detroit doesn’t need you to be so salty. It’s a shame Yzerman added vets to ruin a perfect opportunity to grab Bedard. So short sighted.

Sabres are far more likely to win 1st overall in the 2023 draft than they are making a WC spot. Not even close to being a playoff team and not even close to being as good as Detroit. "Further ahead" lol

 

[Holymakinaw]

Taylor Hall only wanted to go to Boston. Kane might want to only go to Buffalo.

LMAO. Uh, yeah.

 

[Matt Ress]

I’m not a Wings fan but did you read what you posted.
The Buffalo kids who played NHL games were counted in the prospect rankings.
Raymond and Seider (2 red wing rookies) were not considered because they both can close to winning the Calder.
So if Raymond and Seider were still considered which pool would you rather have?

I was just asking for him to verify his claim that the RW prospects were "way ahead" of the Sabres. I also posted a resource to the contrary of his claim. Did you read what I posted? Pretty straight forward stuff man.

I guess if you don't like how they conduct their rankings you should take it up with The Hockey Writers or The Athletic or any of the other publications that discredit his claim. I mean, it was a ridiculous claim by a zealous poster and I'm not sure why a reasonable fan is defending it.

Doing this thread again, eh?

Cess pool Chain. Not sure why I stepped in it.

 

[elchud]

Krebs - TT - Kane
Skinner - Cozens - Savoie
Asplund - Mittelstadt - Tuch
Quinn - Girgensons - Peterka
Okposo

Scary good

No room for Olofsson

 

[Diaspora]

Yes, MAYBE Detroit after winning cups and being in play for several others are a bit behind Buffalo in building.
Buffalo had 1 good year where they rode a great goalie over a decade ago.
Face it, you think you’re further ahead but the Sabres have been in building mode since Punch Imlach left.
Full disclosure, I’m a Hawk fan, hate the wings. I just found your claim laughable.

Punch Imlach didn't leave. He died, you cad!

There's a difference.

 

[BFLO]

I’m not a Wings fan but did you read what you posted.
The Buffalo kids who played NHL games were counted in the prospect rankings.
Raymond and Seider (2 red wing rookies) were not considered because they both can close to winning the Calder.
So if Raymond and Seider were still considered which pool would you rather have?

Fair enough, lets include Buffalo's U23's that played in the NHL then too if we're counting Raymond and Seider.

Dahlin
Krebs
Cozens
Samuelsson

Still think Detroit has the better pool?

 

[Sparksrus3]

This is assuming Kane is requesting to go home to Buffalo and the Sabres are somewhat in the playoff hunt in February. Sabres could just wait to sign him next summer but it could be a trade similar to Taylor Hall where the Sabres got a 2nd, Bjork and Lazar. Chicago doesn't want him to walk for nothing. Buffalo does have three 2nd round picks in 2023 and also have the rights to Portillo and Ryan Johnson which could all be included in a package. What is realistic at the deadline under this scenario.

Assuming, requesting, somewhat, could just, it could, doesn’t want, does have, also have, which could, what is, realistic, scenario..

If you are not already , you would make a great blogger rumor starter .. EK look out man..

 

[Unbiased Fan]

If Buffalo lands Bedard then I could see Kane coming over as a UFA.

Thompson-Bedard-Kane
Krebs-Cozens-Quinn

+Tuch, Savoie, Perterka, Mittelstad, Olofsson, and Rosen

 

[Space umpire]

Fair enough, lets include Buffalo's U23's that played in the NHL then too if we're counting Raymond and Seider.

Dahlin
Krebs
Cozens
Samuelsson

Still think Detroit has the better pool?

Actually yes, both teams have good prospects and a lot of them. … Seider is quite possibly generational.

 

[Space umpire]

Punch Imlach didn't leave. He died, you cad!

There's a difference.

Everyone dies eventually. Imlach lived about a decade after his Buffalo time ended.
You cad!
You could have said he was fired and been correct.
He didn’t die on the job. … the team did though.