Former Bruins Patrice Bergeron II RETIRES (post 430)

UncleRico

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He was hurt and should not have been playing....

He’s been hurt come playoff time 4 out of the last 5 years. Herniated disk, elbow surgery, one healthy year and back to back years of groin injuries.

What should they do?
 

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100% agree describes those two guys as well. I never said being absent of those qualities made someone a bad player. Bergy is the best player of this bruins generation. Unfortunately under his leadership this team has been a constant post season underperformer and he shares a decent amount of blame for the drop off in regular season success into the post season as the captain and leader of the team.

Just as if he did have the success I would be praising him in the opposite direction. That’s not the case though.
To me Chara is the greatest Bruin of this era. Captained the team for years, Stanley Cup and two more finals, a Norris.
 

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He’s been hurt come playoff time 4 out of the last 5 years. Herniated disk, elbow surgery, one healthy year and back to back years of groin injuries.

What should they do?
If he wants to come back lesser role , sorry that is how it works need someone else to be that guy and he is always there if needed If Bergey cannot accept that , than the Bruins should move on. I do believe he can still contribute but that will be up to him if he is willing to be a smaller role player .
 

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If only Patrice Bergeron had some success...
If he wants to come back lesser role , sorry that is how it works need someone else to be that guy and he is always there if needed If Bergey cannot accept that , than the Bruins should move on. I do believe he can still contribute but that will be up to him if he is willing to be a smaller role player .
Agreed, they should let someone else sign for a 2.5mil cap hit, captain the club and take home the Selke next year. Enough of Bergeron handcuffing the organization for another season and roadblocking the kids. .
 

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I feel like he will return for the reasons many have stated in this thread. The Bs will easily be a better team with him than without him. He is STILL playing Selke level hockey.

Think about how hard it would be to replace that kind of talent this coming season in a cap crunch if Bergy doesn't return. Irreplaceable essentially.

With Bergy back, Marchy fully healed, a slew of good players still here, and some luck with injuries late in the season, this coming season's team could still make some noise in the playoffs.
This past season many of us had our fingers crossed that the B's would even make the playoffs and look how the season turned out. There are plenty of reasons for optimism for next year. Two seasons ago the Panthers crushed it in the regular season only to have an early exit and look at them now.
 

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He was hurt and should not have been playing....

I know he was & he shouldn't have been but he did and his numbers confirm that he should have been kept out.

As I said, I don't think he wants to go out that way &that's why I think he'll be back for one more go.
 

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I'm clearly in the minority but I don't think he is coming back. The Bruins caught lightning in a bottle last year in the regular season, and it seemed like Bergeron went in with last year being his final season. The roster obviously needs to be trimmed, and with Bergeron's most recent run with injuries I have to imagine it is tough go get motivated again for the grind of camp, preseason and the 82-game regular season after a year like they had, and a failed playoff. I have no knowledge of his mindset whatsoever, but I wonder if the thought of another "final" season will be too much.
 
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If Patrice (and Krejci) are going to retire, I hope they let the team know as soon as possible. The B's need to know what their situation is at center when free agency begins.
Or, the Bruins can manage their team on their own terms and timeline.
 

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What percentage of people have reading comprehension issues because it seems it be a massive issue on this board as well.

Many seems to not be able to comprehend the difference between being soft and a soft play style. For example, I wouldnt call phill kessel soft especially with that iron man streak. However without a doubt he has a soft style of play, so theres a significant difference. Hell elias lindholm might be the perfect example, selke runner up, not a soft player, but plays a soft style of play and never fihts and rarely gets in scrums or hits much like bergeron.

I wouldnt call any of those guys soft, but all of them without a doubt have a soft style of play. However many cant seem to differentiate being soft and having a soft play style, despite multiple posts explaining the difference.

But I wouldn't put any of those guys in the soft category like I would crosby, the sedins, marleau, half of those Montreal teams.
He’s a shutdown center which involves completely different mindset and seeking body contact can take you out of the play.

I dont think I’ve ever heard ‘soft style’ - soft yes

If your soft style is ‘not overly physical’ I can buy that

But first shift of game 5 he rocks Ekblad behind Florida net which kinda didn’t expect

I actually get what you mean now - his style is not looking to make hits

Bennett is looking to make hits - but when you look to make a hit you are usually going where the puck was and as a center your responsibility is such that you really should be focused on support not initiative

I’m not sure what Bruins center since Derek Sanderson was an Uber aggressive seeking body contact ?

Even Cherrys psycho Bruins centers - Ratelle , McNabb, Sheppard we’re all not physical
 

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He’s a shutdown center which involves completely different mindset and seeking body contact can take you out of the play.

I dont think I’ve ever heard ‘soft style’ - soft yes

If your soft style is ‘not overly physical’ I can buy that

But first shift of game 5 he rocks Ekblad behind Florida net which kinda didn’t expect

I actually get what you mean now - his style is not looking to make hits

Bennett is looking to make hits - but when you look to make a hit you are usually going where the puck was and as a center your responsibility is such that you really should be focused on support not initiative

I’m not sure what Bruins center since Derek Sanderson was an Uber aggressive seeking body contact ?

Even Cherrys psycho Bruins centers - Ratelle , McNabb, Sheppard we’re all not physical


Doesn’t even need to be bergy or a center honestly but they need a leader in that room that is a physical type that the team can rally around. Not some fringe player that’s healthy scratch fodder on a nightly basis(foligno,Frederic ritchie)Someone who is going to not only get in the scrums but initiate them, stand up for teammates and play a heavy game. Either on offense or defense. But it needs to be a prominent player.

Honestly they’ve lacked it since charas prime. But that 2011 team was a different animal.

They need a leader in the top 6 forwards or top 4 D that sets that type of tone for them. We’ve seen without it, Bruins just get bullied in the playoffs.
 
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DKH

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Last year, I thought he would retire, and there were constant rumors about he, and Krejci, returning. This year I think he retires. He did not play that game in Montreal for nothing. Other possibility is that he plays about 40 games after his back heals.
They won yes he was gone my
Doesn’t even need to be bergy honestly but they need a leader in that room that is a physical type that the team can rally around. Not some fringe player that’s healthy scratch fodder on a nightly basis. Someone who is going to not only get in the scrums but initiate them, stand up for teammates and play a heavy game. Either on offense or defense. But it needs to be a prominent player.

Honestly they’ve lacked it since charas prime. But that 2011 team was a different animal.

They need someone in the top 6 forwards or top 4 D that sets that type of tone for them. We’ve seen without it, Bruins just get bullied in the playoffs.
Yes 100% agree

Bergeron they won he would have been gone I was told - whether true I respect where my friend gets this

For free pizza for life if I get it right I’m going he’s back but this is it
 
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Before this season, Bergeron missed one playoff game in the last 6 seasons.

I know, but he’s playing injured and not at his best come playoff time every year.

I just am wondering what they do to keep him healthy. I don’t think playing him 78 or 73 games a season like they have the last two years is the best idea considering how banged up he’s been each playoff run the past 5 years or so.
 
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Honestly after the all-in Season last year, Bruins need to plan the team post-Bergeron/post-Krejci.

If they wanna come back, great. But if there are no decisions now, we need to plan like they aren't.

They unfortunately weren't the answer this year (not their fault by any stretch, but we gave them their shot, between this and the years between 2019, all those last shots, it's finally time to move forward).

If Bergeron wants to come back, awesome, but we can't wait and see.

After the big disappointment last season, and Marchand being the only signed remnant of 2011, I think it's time to accept father time.
 
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Bergy has been in 1 fight in the past decade. That part of his game was phased out early with the concussions this happened well before he started aging. Do I blame him? No, its allowed him to have a long career.

Unfortunately teams take after their leaders though and the Bruins have been a little too soft in the physicality department especially in the playoffs. Frederics been forced to tone it down, Hathaway comes here and isnt half the pest he was in washington, Marchands been forced to tone it down.

Meanwhile You have teams like florida who were very similar to the bruins current physical play style when they had huberdeau leading the team. Regular season studs who get bullied in the playoffs. All of a sudden Tkachuk comes in and its a complete culture change with many of the same players. The players rally around Tkachuk getting into scrums, bringing the physicality, mucking it up and playing a heavy game. Then look what happens to them, furthest theyve ever made it in what was considered a retool year for them.

Bergy great human being, excellent player, someone I would want my daughter to marry. Not the type of captain you want for a playoff push though.
Chara called him co-captain...... (I let you search the video they are a few - I am to lazy)
Behind the bench (I won't search to lazy)Rask and players around the table were joking and calling him the Bruins Captain.

Above video tells me alot...Respected by his teammates and opponents (see Kings respect at his 1000 games or 1000 points.

Bergeron is everything a NHL franchise is wishing to have.
He won the MVP in junior WC and won at ALL level, 5 Selke maybe 6 depending this year.
winning goal of the only (this era)SC Boston win in 2011, scoring OT, 1000 games with the same organization, 1000 points ...
Toronto 2013 rally was on Lucic, he changed the momentum...... in a team you need various type of player and leading is making everyone pull in the same direction. But when you don't have a Lucic style on your team....it is a problem imo, that is not on Bergeron. But that same game with Lucic, he scored the tying and the winning goal.
I won't go in a Chara vs Bergeron fight. I love both guys. But your assessmen is a consequence that maybe you don't know what leading is!!!
 
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Bradely

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Honestly after the all-in Season last year, Bruins need to plan the team post-Bergeron/post-Krejci.

If they wanna come back, great. But if there are no decisions now, we need to plan like they aren't.

They unfortunately weren't the answer this year (not their fault by any stretch, but we gave them their shot, between this and the years between 2019, all those last shots, it's finally time to move forward).

If Bergeron wants to come back, awesome, but we can't wait and see.

After the big disappointment last season, and Marchand being the only signed remnant of 2011, I think it's time to accept father time.
Agree... but I would put it this way.! Without no-one drafted or acquired by trade to take the leading role, Boston relied again on 37 and 46... and those guys accepting 50% less there value gave a Boston a chance to maybe go all in and still be a competitive team and most maybe be a SC challenger.. Did not go that way, but went way better than most were expecting last summer.
 

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Agree... but I would put it this way.! Without no-one drafted or acquired by trade to take the leading role, Boston relied again on 37 and 46... and those guys accepting 50% less there value gave a Boston a chance to maybe go all in and still be a competitive team and most maybe be a SC challenger.. Did not go that way, but went way better than most were expecting last summer.
I agree, but I would not call last season the future expectation.

I think they can't be left to, "Patrice and David come save us again, pretty please?"

If they haven't committed, plan like they won't be here.

If they come back, great we have them, but I think they should be plan B, not plan A. All in all, if plan A doesn't work out, and plan B isn't an option, well, I guess we'll move to plan C. But rather address the team with plan A.
 
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