Former Bruins Patrice Bergeron II RETIRES (post 430)

[SoupNazi]

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[DKH]

Won a Stanley Cup and scored 2 goals in clincher, and was captain of the team that holds the regular season all time record.

A member of the Triple Gold club, Patrice Bergeron made his Olympic debut on home ice at Vancouver 2010 where he won gold with Team Canada. Bergeron would go on to win a second straight gold at Sochi 2014.

Bergeron wore the Team Canada jersey three years in a row from 2004 to 2006. At the conclusion of his NHL rookie season in 2003-04, Bergeron joined the Canadian team for the IIHF World Championship at age 18. During the NHL lockout in 2004-05, Bergeron helped Canada win gold at the IIHF World Junior Championship, making him the first player to win world junior gold after winning the men’s world gold. Bergeron led the 2005 World Juniors in scoring with five goals and eight assists and was named tournament MVP. Bergeron also represented Canada at the 2006 IIHF World Championship as well as the 2012 Spengler Cup where Canada won gold during the NHL lockout. He was a member of Team Canada that won gold at the 2016 World Cup of Hockey.

Half dozen Selkes

Love that he wins a gold with men at WC after rookie season then due to lockout goes to World Junior U20 and wins Gold and is leading scorer & mvp on team with Crosby

Multiple Olympic golds as well

Gold medal for class

Hope he sticks it out one more year

 

[ShiftyNifty16]

Hope not.

 

[DKH]

I don’t know how he could possibly get up for another season after what just happened

The season was magical and everything was going great and in the blink of an eye over

He’s not chasing a Cup, or stats or anything

Krejci & Foligno and others are gone

I’m 99.9% sure he went to Montreal so his family could see him one last time -he was retiring if they won

I still think he does retire

If he comes back it really helps the team and it would be 20th season and oldest kids would have better memories

If I am him I come back for one thing - my kids love seeing me play and I feel good

Nothing else really matters- 100 years Bruins, organization 20 years, stats, even winning that second Cup

Kids want it (and it’s very possible they do) I’m back if not I’m sailing off into the sunset

 

[Over the volcano]

How often do guys retire when they're still clearly capable of playing and leading a club in the NHL?

 

[DKH]

How often do guys retire when they're still clearly capable of playing and leading a club in the NHL?

When there is nothing left to do

My boys told me he was gone if they won and he pretty much put the Traveling Wilburies together for one last dance

So if he was retiring if they won why would he come back

I hope he comes back from a selfish standpoint (oops, is it ok for me to say I’m selfish or do I just accuse Bergeron for being selfish playing both last game and telling Monty he’s playing game 5?)

Dream scenario for moi

He comes back and Bettuzzi ends up taking 6:36 which is making the rounds among the group chat

They role out

63-37-74
59-18-88
71-13-11

Boom

However, because they hurt me so bad emotionally and I was eating only frozen pizza and wearing only my Bruins bathrob snd B medallion/chain for 3 weeks an around the house, I won’t watch the regular season

I’m praying to the Gallery Gods Bergeron kids want him playing so when bring your dad to school they can say ‘he’s captain of the greatest regular season team ever and we love him’

Oh and @Ladyfan if he’s back we gotta take the girls back to Montreal (I owe that Habs tour bus guide one)

 

[rocketdan9]

How often do guys retire when they're still clearly capable of playing and leading a club in the NHL?

I don't think Bergy returns. Especially for min salary.

I see an outside chance of him join the team/mid season.

 

[Over the volcano]

I don't think Bergy returns. Especially for min salary.

I see an outside chance of him join the team/mid season.

When there is nothing left to do

My boys told me he was gone if they won and he pretty much put the Traveling Wilburies together for one last dance

So if he was retiring if they won why would he come back

I hope he comes back from a selfish standpoint (oops, is it ok for me to say I’m selfish or do I just accuse Bergeron for being selfish playing both last game and telling Monty he’s playing game 5?)

Dream scenario for moi

He comes back and Bettuzzi ends up taking 6:36 which is making the rounds among the group chat

They role out

63-37-74
59-18-88
71-13-11

Boom

However, because they hurt me so bad emotionally and I was eating only frozen pizza and wearing only my Bruins bathrob snd B medallion/chain for 3 weeks an around the house, I won’t watch the regular season

I’m praying to the Gallery Gods Bergeron kids want him playing so when bring your dad to school they can say ‘he’s captain of the greatest regular season team ever and we love him’

Oh and @Ladyfan if he’s back we gotta take the girls back to Montreal (I owe that Habs tour bus guide one)

I hear you both - but actually how many players retire when they can still play at an elite level?

 

[rocketdan9]

I hear you both - but actially how many players retire when they can still play at an elite level?

For what season though?

Bergy is not young anymore. He could probably still excel in regular season for another 2 to 3 seasons. His experience, iq, leadership alone would be enough to get the job done.

But come playoffs...

How many close to 40 y/o players were able to lead their team to a deep playoff run?

The other thing is... lack of funds. While other older players (like Ovie) gets about 10m per season. Bergy would be playing for peanuts in comparison.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

Part of me definitely feels like the same people saying he “definitely should stick it out for another year” are going to be saying the same thing indefinitely until he does retire. Whatever the surrounding circumstances.

This season would be a really terrible way to end a career, but I’m not sure if that’s actually motivation to try it all again for another season.

Well paid as these guys are, committing to and playing professional hockey for 9-10 months of the year is not a simple yes or no decision. At least after you’ve been doing it for 20 years. As is the case with a lot of high paying jobs, you make a lot of personal sacrifice. There’s nothing wrong with wanting to pivot.

 

[Over the volcano]

For what season though?

Bergy is not young anymore. He could probably still excel in regular season for another 2 to 3 seasons. His experience, iq, leadership alone would be enough to get the job done.

But come playoffs...

How many close to 40 y/o players were able to lead their team to a deep playoff run?

The other thing is... lack of funds. While other older players (like Ovie) gets about 10m per season. Bergy would be playing for peanuts in comparison.

I totally hear what you are saying - I just cant think of any player who could still play at that high a level who chose to retire. So I'm asking if anyone has some names that I'm forgetting? It's not a rhetorical question.

 

[Mainehockey33]

I totally hear what you are saying - I just cant think of any player who could still play at that high a level who chose to retire. So I'm asking if anyone has some names that I'm forgetting? It's not a rhetorical question.

Bourque was playing 25+ minutes a night for Colorado in his last season. Lidstrom won a Norris in his final season. Those are the only two that come to mind right now.

 

[DKH]

I hear you both - but actually how many players retire when they can still play at an elite level?

Yah one more year would Bs great for me

 

[Bradely]

Bourque was playing 25+ minutes a night for Colorado in his last season. Lidstrom won a Norris in his final season. Those are the only two that come to mind right now.

Defence..... versus center. Not the same imo. It is like apple and orange.
Roy went out when he was at the top... but he was a keeper...

In the past 99 and Howe comes to mind but different era..... 37 did not play against the Mickey Mouse or California Seals or in at the AMH.

Right now, Pavelski is the closest comparaison....

Bergeron body has been quite wreck thru the years....

 

[Mainehockey33]

Defence..... versus center. Not the same imo. It is like apple and orange.
Roy went out when he was at the top... but he was a keeper...

In the past 99 and Howe comes to mind but different era..... 37 did not play against the Mickey Mouse or California Seals or in at the AMH.

Right now, Pavelski is the closest comparaison....

Bergeron body has been quite wreck thru the years....

The question was what players retired at the top of their game. If we’re narrowing it to centers that’s a different question. Your last sentence is exactly the reason why it would make sense for Bergeron to retire. Sakic was still around a ppg when he retired. Plenty of players had to quit due to injuries adding up even though they were still good players.

 

[Over the volcano]

Bourque was playing 25+ minutes a night for Colorado in his last season. Lidstrom won a Norris in his final season. Those are the only two that come to mind right now.

Good stuff thanks

Lindstrom was 40+ and Bourque went out with his long lost Cup. I'm not sure either are great comparisons for Bergerons situation but who knows.

The question was what players retired at the top of their game. If we’re narrowing it to centers that’s a different question. Your last sentence is exactly the reason why it would make sense for Bergeron to retire. Sakic was still around a ppg when he retired. Plenty of players had to quit due to injuries adding up even though they were still good players.

Yeah - if his back is busted then it's a whole different story. IMO the state of his health short and long term is probably more important a factor in his decision about this year than family, $, or the roster issues.

 

[Bruinaura]

Want to feel old?



Happy Bruins birthday, Bergy

 

[NDiesel]

Want to feel old?



Happy Bruins birthday, Bergy

Damn i was 10 when he was drafted..

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I hope he comes back from a selfish standpoint (oops, is it ok for me to say I’m selfish or do I just accuse Bergeron for being selfish playing both last game and telling Monty he’s playing game 5?)
He comes back and Bettuzzi ends up taking 6:36 which is making the rounds among the group chatHowever, because they hurt me so bad emotionally and I was eating only frozen pizza and wearing only my Bruins bathrob snd B medallion/chain for 3 weeks an around the house, I won’t watch the regular season

I’m praying to the Gallery Gods Bergeron kids want him playing so when bring your dad to school they can say ‘he’s captain of the greatest regular season team ever and we love him’

Oh and @Ladyfan if he’s back we gotta take the girls back to Montreal (I owe that Habs tour bus guide one)

Love that.

 

[HumBucker]

I totally hear what you are saying - I just cant think of any player who could still play at that high a level who chose to retire. So I'm asking if anyone has some names that I'm forgetting? It's not a rhetorical question.

Yes, this exactly. Most NHL players, especially guys like Bergeron, are warriors and competitors. You don't get to that level of professional sports without having a strong competitive streak in you. To retire when you can still play, and you still seek to raise that Cup again, is virtually unheard of. I'm sure he would have retired had they won the Cup this year, but that storybook ending didn't happen.

If he retires, I feel it would be for health reasons, or if the Bruins went into full rebuild mode. Assuming management can still put a competitive team on the ice, I think Bergy will want to take another run at it, to make a better showing than last playoffs, and at least purge some of the bitter taste from the way it ended. Why would anyone want to end their career on such a sour note?

 

[missingchicklet]

Yes, this exactly. Most NHL players, especially guys like Bergeron, are warriors and competitors. You don't get to that level of professional sports without having a strong competitive streak in you. To retire when you can still play, and you still seek to raise that Cup again, is virtually unheard of. I'm sure he would have retired had they won the Cup this year, but that storybook ending didn't happen.

If he retires, I feel it would be for health reasons, or if the Bruins went into full rebuild mode. Assuming management can still put a competitive team on the ice, I think Bergy will want to take another run at it, to make a better showing than last playoffs, and at least purge some of the bitter taste from the way it ended. Why would anyone want to end their career on such a sour note?

Life can get complicated for anyone. I can't even imagine how much more complicated it gets when your body goes through hell every year and you are on the road away from your family a good part of every season. Lots of things for Bergy to consider.

Your point about the competitive streak might be correct in that it could trump all of the other considerations. Only the elite of the elite players with major competitive streaks win multiple Selke Trophies. Part of the reason Bergy is so broken down by the playoffs is that he doesn't have an off switch. Every shift he is going balls to the wall in all three zones. That's one of the reasons he has so many Selkes.

I agree that it might be tough to just walk away from things, especially given how this past season ended. Bergy takes a lot of pride in his game and in being a B. I hope he comes back, but will certainly understand if he doesn't. Hate to see the hole it will leave if he retires. Also hate to see a great player leave when he is still capable of playing at a high level. One thing is for certain -- I will respect 100% whichever path Bergy chooses to take.

 

[Bruinaura]

Life can get complicated for anyone. I can't even imagine how much more complicated it gets when your body goes through hell every year and you are on the road away from your family a good part of every season. Lots of things for Bergy to consider.

Your point about the competitive streak might be correct in that it could trump all of the other considerations. Only the elite of the elite players with major competitive streaks win multiple Selke Trophies. Part of the reason Bergy is so broken down by the playoffs is that he doesn't have an off switch. Every shift he is going balls to the wall in all three zones. That's one of the reasons he has so many Selkes.

I agree that it might be tough to just walk away from things, especially given how this past season ended. Bergy takes a lot of pride in his game and in being a B. I hope he comes back, but will certainly understand if he doesn't. Hate to see the hole it will leave if he retires. Also hate to see a great player leave when he is still capable of playing at a high level. One thing is for certain -- I will respect 100% whichever path Bergy chooses to take.

I wonder if we'll know his decision before the awards ceremony next week. If not, and assuming he wins the Selke, it will be interesting to see how emotional he gets (or doesn't get). Although I expect he has a good poker face when he needs it.

 

[TCB]

For what season though?

Bergy is not young anymore. He could probably still excel in regular season for another 2 to 3 seasons. His experience, iq, leadership alone would be enough to get the job done.

But come playoffs...

How many close to 40 y/o players were able to lead their team to a deep playoff run?

The other thing is... lack of funds. While other older players (like Ovie) gets about 10m per season. Bergy would be playing for peanuts in comparison.

That's where the Bruins need to go out and get him help at the Center position. Bergy needs help there and that doesn't mean he still isn't great because he is. You bring in a Dubois/Lindholm/Mercer/Barzal a center who can log heavy minutes and take a lot of the wear and tear away from Bergeron in a long Season.

I don't want to see Bergy counted on to play first line duties where he goes up night after night against the opponents top defensive pairs and then when the playoffs role around he has a target on his back. But In a lesser role behind one of the aforementioned players he would excel, imo. Bergeron is far to good to send out to pasture just yet. I don't care what his age is, he still has it.

 

[missingchicklet]

I wonder if we'll know his decision before the awards ceremony next week. If not, and assuming he wins the Selke, it will be interesting to see how emotional he gets (or doesn't get). Although I expect he has a good poker face when he needs it.

Bergy is def a hard one to read based on facial expressions. Maybe Monty will be looking at his body language and cue us all in (I kid, I kid). Hopefully we know earlier this summer than last summer on what he decides to do. If nothing is officially announced by a certain point perhaps the moves/non-moves the front office is making will reveal something.

 

[Ladyfan]

Life can get complicated for anyone. I can't even imagine how much more complicated it gets when your body goes through hell every year and you are on the road away from your family a good part of every season. Lots of things for Bergy to consider.

Your point about the competitive streak might be correct in that it could trump all of the other considerations. Only the elite of the elite players with major competitive streaks win multiple Selke Trophies. Part of the reason Bergy is so broken down by the playoffs is that he doesn't have an off switch. Every shift he is going balls to the wall in all three zones. That's one of the reasons he has so many Selkes.

I agree that it might be tough to just walk away from things, especially given how this past season ended. Bergy takes a lot of pride in his game and in being a B. I hope he comes back, but will certainly understand if he doesn't. Hate to see the hole it will leave if he retires. Also hate to see a great player leave when he is still capable of playing at a high level. One thing is for certain -- I will respect 100% whichever path Bergy chooses to take.

This^ If he decides to retire from playing, I hope he takes time off and then considers working for the Bs

Want to feel old?



Happy Bruins birthday, Bergy

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