Value of: Parayko to Oilers

Seanaconda

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It's funny how last year there was a dump for dump trade proposal Miller for parayko and neither team wanted the others trash
 

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It's funny how last year there was a dump for dump trade proposal Miller for parayko and neither team wanted the others trash

Neither player was trash to begin with. One misinformed columnist wrote an article and included Parayko on his worst contacts list and mainstream hockey fans who don't follow the Blues took it as fact. $6.5 million for a big, all-situations D who can skate very well seems like a good deal to me. I can see why the Oilers wouldn't wanna lock themselves into that contract due to their own cap issues and the need to resign the big two in a couple years, but I also think a lot of people are underestimating Parayko as a player. His departure would leave a huge hole on a Blues blue line that already has a couple holes in it, and I hope they don't trade him at all.
 

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Neither player was trash to begin with. One misinformed columnist wrote an article and included Parayko on his worst contacts list and mainstream hockey fans who don't follow the Blues took it as fact. $6.5 million for a big, all-situations D who can skate very well seems like a good deal to me. I can see why the Oilers wouldn't wanna lock themselves into that contract due to their own cap issues and the need to resign the big two in a couple years, but I also think a lot of people are underestimating Parayko as a player. His departure would leave a huge hole on a Blues blue line that already has a couple holes in it, and I hope they don't trade him at all.

They know exactly how good he is. edm fans just want to undercut his value and fleece stl lol
 
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Seanaconda

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Neither player was trash to begin with. One misinformed columnist wrote an article and included Parayko on his worst contacts list and mainstream hockey fans who don't follow the Blues took it as fact. $6.5 million for a big, all-situations D who can skate very well seems like a good deal to me. I can see why the Oilers wouldn't wanna lock themselves into that contract due to their own cap issues and the need to resign the big two in a couple years, but I also think a lot of people are underestimating Parayko as a player. His departure would leave a huge hole on a Blues blue line that already has a couple holes in it, and I hope they don't trade him at all.
No it's fine you keeping the guy but it's like tales of his demise have been greatly exaggerated last year ?

But you see it happen with other players too

They are not under

They know exactly how good he is. edm fans just want to undercut his value and fleece stl lol
I mean you can find the threads with stl fans trying to dump him last year but again a fan base isn't a monolith
 

BleedBlue14

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No it's fine you keeping the guy but it's like tales of his demise have been greatly exaggerated last year ?

But you see it happen with other players too


I mean you can find the threads with stl fans trying to dump him last year but again a fan base isn't a monolith

I’d say the overall pulse from the fan base has never been to dump Parayko. The overall pulse has been begging them to get someone to play with him since JBo had to retire.

But in general you’re right. The sky is always falling, or it’s the best thing ever for a large majority of fans. Thankfully it’s why none of us are in the position to make the actual moves.
 

ChaoticOrange

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Maybe you should realize that this is how most trade discussions tend to go here. Nearly all when discussing impact players. It isn't right, but it isn't going to change.
Particularly since nobody had made an offer of any kind before that poster ran full speed into a brick wall demanding Bouchard and two firsts... Can't claim everyone else's offers were shit when the first shit offer in the thread WAS YOUR OWN
 

ManofSteel55

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They are not under

They know exactly how good he is. edm fans just want to undercut his value and fleece stl lol
Nobody here thinks they have the authority to actually make a trade. Nobody thinks these discussions will actually lead to a fleecing. You're just bent out of shape because your Bouchard and multiple firsts proposal was beaten down.
 
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EastVillageBlues

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How much does Parayko want to go?
Seems the most important question at this point.

He's probably content even if we went into a full rebuild, since the organization fits him like a glove.

Although the Oilers are probably one of the few teams that he would not mind a long term stay for, since he has many ties to that area.
 

EastVillageBlues

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It's funny how last year there was a dump for dump trade proposal Miller for parayko and neither team wanted the others trash


Mmm, I'm not sure where you see people touting Miller or Parayko as cap dumps. Last year, the concern was that neither one would be able to get full value on the trade market, due to the concern with lengths of contracts. At no point would anyone suggest that their values are negative.

If you look at 6.5 AAV in 2030, it is likely going to be somewhere equivalent to 5M today, which is completely doable even for #3-4 D. Even if he goes into decline, he will definitely be serviceable as a complementary D at that point. Maybe slightly overpaid in 2030, but definitely not into the cap dump category.
 

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As easy as that, huh?

I have to disagree with you. The coming contracts for McDavid and Draisaitl requires Edmonton to avoid long term older veteran contracts. Parayko is doing great right now. He is signed until 2030.

When you think ahead and see $30 million tied up until 2033-2034 (and Nurse @$9.25 Million until 2030) the implications should become clear.
No it not easy but look at this way. If Campbell was playing good NHL caliber we would have him on the team and would be stuck with that cap. Moving Ceci and Campbell is more than enough and it doesn't mean anything in re-signing Draisaitl or anyone else.
 

Robtom18

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Nobody here thinks they have the authority to actually make a trade. Nobody thinks these discussions will actually lead to a fleecing. You're just bent out of shape because your Bouchard and multiple firsts proposal was beaten down.
Im not bent out of shape. I am calling out the stupidity of some posters. My bouchard and multiple firsts was a statement saying that is what it would take to get him from blues. Vast overpayment. Is was a sirect result of th crap offers in this and other threads. Broberg bourgault and late first while taking ceci back as cap dump. There were several others.

Edm fans.
Make up fake rumors
Degrade player
State player is over paid and not worth it.
Offer poop poop and more poop.
Get mad you wont take poop for your player.
Wash rinse repeat.

The Blues could still end up passing the Oilers in points once the Oilers hit their inevitable losing streak from fatigue and garbage scoring depth.
Blues are looking better lately. Krug is finally figuring it out. Faulk should be back soon. Kessel has beem very good for rookie. Binnington and hofer have been lights out.
 

Robtom18

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No it not easy but look at this way. If Campbell was playing good NHL caliber we would have him on the team and would be stuck with that cap. Moving Ceci and Campbell is more than enough and it doesn't mean anything in re-signing Draisaitl or anyone else.
Campbell is going to be a tough cookie to unload. Thats going to take a first or buy out. Ceci you could probably move. With that said. You are better off finding a ufa. You just dont have the assets to get parayko. It would cause a huge hole for blues and costa ton.of assests. Blues are more likely to build around parayko and not take anything short of a kings ransom.
 
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ManofSteel55

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Im not bent out of shape. I am calling out the stupidity of some posters. My bouchard and multiple firsts was a statement saying that is what it would take to get him from blues. Vast overpayment. Is was a sirect result of th crap offers in this and other threads. Broberg bourgault and late first while taking ceci back as cap dump. There were several others.

Edm fans.
Make up fake rumors
Degrade player
State player is over paid and not worth it.
Offer poop poop and more poop.
Get mad you wont take poop for your player.
Wash rinse repeat.


Blues are looking better lately. Krug is finally figuring it out. Faulk should be back soon. Kessel has beem very good for rookie. Binnington and hofer have been lights out.
You aren't helping anything by painting every fan in a fanbase with the same brush. You have brought a lot of the negativity in this discussion yourself. You can do better.
 

Robtom18

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You aren't helping anything by painting every fan in a fanbase with the same brush. You have brought a lot of the negativity in this discussion yourself. You can do better.
Did 1 say everyone nope. You can do better as well. Call your fellow edm fans out. Instead of giving me crap for voice a legitmate and well informed objection to pure crap.
 

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I don't think St. Louis would trade Parayko while they are battling for a playoff spot. That seems like more of an offseason move if they decide to retool with assets.
 

joestevens29

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Why would the Blues trade a key guy, who isn't a free agent, and the team is in the middle of a fight to be in the playoffs? They also aren't rebuilding.

Same with people thinking the Kings are moving people. Unless they aren't re-signing why would teams who aren't rebuilding and in the playoff mix trade away their players?
My guess would be because they ain’t good any time soon
 

Robtom18

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My guess would be because they ain’t good any time soon
Blues or kings. Kings are 7th seed and blues are eigth see. Blues arr also trending upward. To aure how kings are doing. Blues are literally 3 points behind edm. Yeas edm has 2 games in hand. But thats pretty close.

We're on the same side, but take a chill pill. You're pushing a bit too hard in this thread IMO. By the way, you aren't Colt55 are you? I'm getting those vibes.
No
 

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