Parayko to leafs rumor

[the real Fox mulder]

Buchnevich
Parayko

Peeke
Parayko
Bucnevich

Rielly-Parayko
McCabe-Liljegren
Benoit-Peeke
Gio/Lagesson-Boosh

Don’t ask me what pieces go to make it happen. Treliving makes more money than me and I’m not going to do his job for him…..

I honestly believe Treliving should ask for Buchevich if we'll taking on Parayko contract at full value. I'll give them a first as well.

 

[LeafSteel]

I think the better question is, is it possible for one to DRAFT a Parayko?

Not only are you waiting 2-4 years for him to join but do you honestly trust Keefe to actually develop him?

……. Because his stellar development record boast Dermott, Sandin, and currently Liljegren?

Keefey can’t develop shit, we can’t draft RHD worth shit, and we can’t wait at least 2 years for him to arrive on a unicorn from over the rainbow…..

 

[myleafs]

Bringing in veterans in their 30’s like Giordano and Reaves is fine becaus:

A) they’re free agents and cost ZERO picks or prospects to acquire

B) they’re only getting minimum wage or slightly above minimum

C) they’re on short term deals of 1yr to 3yr max

A guy like Paryako is the complete opposite. The acquisition cost is going to be exorbitant (FYI - - exorbitant means a lot). The cap hit is a brutal $6.5M. There’s still FIVE (5) more years remaining on that boat anchor contract.

Acquiring Parayko is the kind of move that Kyle Dumbass would make.

Parayko is 30....
Gio 40
Reaves 37

The ages are not even close.....and ... gio was still playing good hockey at 36 (when parayako's contract is done)
Parayako could be good til the end of his contract. It wouldnt be out of the question for a top pairing dman to play well into their 30's

 

[Community]

Seems like a lot of posters believe we're getting parayko from 3-5 years ago based on the offers.

Liljegren or Brodie going the other way does not significantly (if at all) improve our defense and makes our cap situation a lot worse moving forward.

50% retention and a trade that doesnt include one of our good young forwards the other way and I'd be interested.... but that's not gonna happen.

 

[Clark4Ever]

It seems the Parayko rumors don't have any substance based on what I heard on the radio on the drive home from work. His agent hasn't even been approached yet regarding a no trade clause waiver. Things can change of course, but it seems unlikely at this point.

If we make another move, I think it will likely be a lower cost acquisition for a RHD like Matt Dumba. Without giving up a 1st or any of our top prospects (which I am ok with at this stage), we can't expect to go big game hunting, nor should we.

 

[Community]

Bringing in veterans in their 30’s like Giordano and Reaves is fine becaus:

A) they’re free agents and cost ZERO picks or prospects to acquire

B) they’re only getting minimum wage or slightly above minimum

C) they’re on short term deals of 1yr to 3yr max

A guy like Paryako is the complete opposite. The acquisition cost is going to be exorbitant (FYI - - exorbitant means a lot). The cap hit is a brutal $6.5M. There’s still FIVE (5) more years remaining on that boat anchor contract.

Acquiring Parayko is the kind of move that Kyle Dumbass would make.

Can you name me one player Dubas traded for that would be similar to acquiring Parayko's contract?

 

[aingefan]

Phaneuf was brought up as a cautionary reminder, though I’m not sure it’s that close a parallel….but I’m just curious….wasn’t Dion’s contract almost the same as CP’s back then?

 

[IPS]

Seems like a lot of posters believe we're getting parayko from 3-5 years ago based on the offers.

Liljegren or Brodie going the other way does not significantly (if at all) improve our defense and makes our cap situation a lot worse moving forward.

50% retention and a trade that doesnt include one of our good young forwards the other way and I'd be interested.... but that's not gonna happen.

They'd be making this trade on the hope and prayer that a change of scenery brings back the old Parayko. It's risky business no doubt.

Don't get me wrong I'd love the Parayko from 5 years ago but what's the honest likelihood we get that.

 

[IrishInOntario]

You mean a big guy that breaks the cycle, clears the front of the net, plays with a long, disruptive stick and knows how to eat 22-25 minutes per night in high leverage, playoff type situations?

Sign me the hell up even if he showing signs of slowly starting his decline.

Assuming that Brodie gets moved to make the money work...

2024 playoffs

Rielly / Parayko
McCabe / Liljegren
Benoit / Lyubushkin

In the off season you can look to upgrade that defense further via free agency.

 

[Community]

They'd be making this trade on the hope and prayer that a change of scenery brings back the old Parayko. It's risky business no doubt.

Adding a 6.5m player that might end up being a 3rd pairing defenseman (or even a 2nd pairing) is way too risky. At 6.5m he needs to be our #2 dman and #1PKer that can play ~23 mins a game at minimum.

That's before you consider we'd have to give up Brodie (who is undervalued by most posters here), a super tight cap next year, and give up assets to acquire the player.

It's not worth the risk unless he's coming in at or close to 50% off.

 

[the real Fox mulder]

Adding a 6.5m player that might end up being a 3rd pairing defenseman (or even a 2nd pairing) is way too risky. At 6.5m he needs to be our #2 dman and #1PKer that can play ~23 mins a game at minimum.

That's before you consider we'd have to give up Brodie (who is undervalued by most posters here), a super tight cap next year, and give up assets to acquire the player.

It's not worth the risk unless he's coming in at or close to 50% off.

I don't mind taking that risk if they throw in Buchnevich at 50% for 24 first rd pk +

 

[BM14]

They’re not trading their captain mid season.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

They’re not trading their captain mid season.

Who said anything about trading Brayden Schenn?

And for what it's worth, they did trade their captain before the deadline last year...

 

[Matty Sundin]

if he was a rental I’d be all over this

 

[Strangle]

Right shot defensive dman I think would be a perfect partner if they can make cap work and he's a big guy

I haven’t watched him play in a long time, is he still good?

He would need to be injured to go on LTIR, it’s not something negotiated

I’m sure he could have some off season surgery that he recovers from for game 1 of the playoffs for a few of those years

 

[Hoglund4MvP]

Every single big name was linked to leafs. I'll believe one when I see it

 

[ACC1224]

I haven’t watched him play in a long time, is he still good?



I’m sure he could have some off season surgery that he recovers from for game 1 of the playoffs for a few of those years

Why would he want to do that?

 

[DarkKnight]

I didn't love how he looked in the recent two games against the Leafs, to be honest.

 

[darrylsittler27]

Year after year there are rumours. Year after year those rumours never happen and neither will this one.

 

[seanlinden]

I'll start my post by saying #1 -- I dont think the Blues are trading Parayko.

That being said, anyone who "balks" at Parako's $6.5 x 6 remaining, should only be reminded about how badly so many fans wanted Alex Pietrangelo, and would have happily offered more than the $8.8 x 7 that he eventually got.

The reality is, if the Leafs are going to be a truly contending team, they need to stop leaving massive holes in the lineup "to be filled at the deadline". The deadline is an opportunity to acquire a guy that is a first liner on antoher team to give you depth. It's not when you should be shopping for a guy to play on your top pair.

Yes, the contract has the potential to turn sour, but with reasonably expected cap increases, he does not need to be a #2 defenceman by the end of it. Acquiring Parayko instantly gives the Leafs a bonafide, and locked down top pair. Let Brodie walk or take a paycut in the offseason, and you've got a solid foundation of D to build off of.

In an ideal world, the Parayko deal would include Niemla and not Liljegren, but I'll go back to my first point on that. St. Louis needs to rebuild their D, no question about it. The challenge is, they've got Kyrou/Thomas, and a bunch of young forward prospects either in the league, or coming very soon. They're going to want defencemen that are already in the NHL to give the right "age bracket" to pair with their forward prospects.

That being said, I'll go back to my first point. I don't think they have much interest in trading Parayko. It makes more sense to shop Faulk, Krug and Leddy.

 

[colchar]

Seeing some insiders talking about it being a possibility he would be a great partner next to reily if so

No clue how they would make it work cap wise though

Which insiders?

 

[ULF_55]

How much were you willing to pay 34 year old Tanev on a new contract?

 

[Confucius]

I didn't love how he looked in the recent two games against the Leafs, to be honest.

I may be mistaken but I thought parayko was the guy people were saying thank goodness we never got him back a few years ago when there was talk about getting him.

 

[Donnie740]

Parayko is 30....
Gio 40
Reaves 37

The ages are not even close.....and ... gio was still playing good hockey at 36 (when parayako's contract is done)
Parayako could be good til the end of his contract. It wouldnt be out of the question for a top pairing dman to play well into their 30's

Parayko is TJ Brodie Jr.

Brodie is 3:yrs old and mercifully his $5M cap hit is finally over this summer.

Imagine how catastrophic it would to keep Brodie around for two more years. And increase his cap hit to $6.5M.

That’s what Parayko equates to.

 

[Puckstuff]

I think the better question is, is it possible for one to DRAFT a Parayko?

No.

Most defensive defensemen don't hit stride until there 24-25. That is 6 years of development if they can even find one and they would miss the entire Matthews, Marner, Nylander window.

Also, how many premier RHD defensive defensemen under 25 are there right now?

It's better to trade for one. The chances of us drafting and developing a top pair RD that will be ready to play with this core is almost zero.