Post-Game Talk: Pain

[gravey9]

Finally woke up in the second. I thought that was a playoff like effort in that momentum swing.

Hopefully they take something from that. Simple plays. They are skilled enough to keep a team hemmed in like that and get chances, draw a penalty or score a goal.

Fox was amazing. I mean could there be yet another level to his game? f***in scary.

I thought both Miller and Trouba played well and were engaged. Especially Miller.

Liked Nemeths game. Steady and sturdy in front of the net.

Nils definitely had the jitters but will be a sneaky effective player for this team if he’s given the time to grow into the NHL game.

Kakko could already have 3 goals this season. Hoping he and Zib get one next game.

Reaves definitely helps break up the lackadaisical moments where the team falls asleep for a few shifts. That’s valuable, especially on home ice. The crowd knows he’s out there and he will pick up on this.

Goat was the one wearing Harry’s invisibility cloak

Didn’t see too much from Goodrow to yield much of an impact. Question: it could be a matchup thing but if he’s on the ice taking draws in the d zone with a min left he should take all of them no matter when and where they are, right?

I really hate OTs when we lose.

When they aren’t on their game defensively they back in too much in the neutral zone and lose their gaps. Also need to cut down on the odd man rushes

Hank is awesome and is a natural. Absolutely love him on the telecast. Tonight put TNT to shame from
front to back

Agree on almost all of this.

I think the D is backing in because the forwards aren't backchecking and holding up their end of the bargain. The system will not work well if the forwards don't come back. It's a key component.

The key to this style of play is putting pucks into the corners and hitting and retrieving and not being afraid to cycle. We have such a heavy team that if we put pucks softly into corners we will wear down opponents and open up space. But when our softer forwards like Strome, Panarin and Laf throw blind passes to the slot right away without holding onto the puck and absorbing contact it often negates the overall effectiveness of the team. We can absolutely wear teams down if they the lines mostly play the same way. You could see it in that second period. But it requires consistent style choices and effort.

Man, I am shocked (though I shouldn't be) at how great Hank was for his first time doing this. I mean, great.

 

[DanielBrassard]

Tbh it's the player he's always been.

He'll score 40 in 32 and good f***ing luck the other 50 games.

That's not really true. He was a really good two-way player his first few years here, but the last couple he really dropped off. Without Buch and a Kreider who isn't the play driver he used to be it's gonna be interesting to see what happens. I think Kakko should definitely get a look on his line, he's probably the best fit there.

 

[Machinehead]

That's not really true. He was a really good two-way player his first few years here, but the last couple he really dropped off. Without Buch and a Kreider who isn't the play driver he used to be it's gonna be interesting to see what happens. I think Kakko should definitely get a look on his line, he's probably the best fit there.

I always thought Zibanejad's defense was a meme.

It was better than it is now, sure, but he was never a really good two-way player imo.

Most first line center's defense is a meme.

 

[tomobson]

If Fox didn't take this game over in the second period it could have been another ugly loss.

 

[Machinehead]

If Fox didn't take this game over in the second period it could have been another ugly loss.

Everybody does good because their best player does stuff.

We have a legit franchise talent, we don't have to feel bad about it.

 

[Chaels Arms]

I'm watching the Kings game right now and the goal LA just scored is the type of goal this roster will never be able to produce. Iafallo backchecked like a madman and just cleanly sticklifted Marchessault and took the puck then took a hit and chipped the puck to Kempe and Kempe fed Kopitar for a goal on a two on one. There's not one forward on this roster with the exception of maybe Kakko who cares enough about defense or transition play to empty the gas tank on a backcheck and strip the puck off an opposing player.

 

[Machinehead]

I'm watching the Kings game right now and the goal LA just scored is the type of goal this roster will never be able to produce. Iafallo backchecked like a madman and just cleanly sticklifted Marchessault and took the puck then took a hit and chipped the puck to Kempe and Kempe fed Kopitar for a goal on a two on one. There's not one forward on this roster with the exception of maybe Kakko who cares enough about defense or transition play to empty the gas tank on a backcheck and strip the puck off an opposing player.

That's what we're working on.

The new guys are getting it so far. I'm still seeing Quinn all over the place from anybody who was already here.

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

In general, guaranteed contracts are bad for sports. Players shouldn’t be able to cash in and take their foot off the gas. You stop performing like a 10M player, you ain’t getting paid 10M. I hate guaranteed contracts.

It’s almost like, handing a human being retirement papers and a bag of money isn’t ideal for optimizing performance. But what do I know, I’m a Ranger fan.

 

[EdJovanovski]

That's what we're working on.

The new guys are getting it so far. I'm still seeing Quinn all over the place from anybody who was already here.

I thought we looked better with Quinn

 

[Levitate]

That's what we're working on.

The new guys are getting it so far. I'm still seeing Quinn all over the place from anybody who was already here.

Yeah I don't think this changes overnight, it's gonna take a bit.

 

[Machinehead]

I thought we looked better with Quinn

No you don't.

 

[Baby Punisher]

Roenick would try to jump in for a threesome, again...

How could you blame him!?

 

[Baby Punisher]

I'm watching the Kings game right now and the goal LA just scored is the type of goal this roster will never be able to produce. Iafallo backchecked like a madman and just cleanly sticklifted Marchessault and took the puck then took a hit and chipped the puck to Kempe and Kempe fed Kopitar for a goal on a two on one. There's not one forward on this roster with the exception of maybe Kakko who cares enough about defense or transition play to empty the gas tank on a backcheck and strip the puck off an opposing player.

Give it time.

 

[EdJovanovski]

No you don't.

We seemed more fired up, I certainly miss his demeanour. Gallant is too nonchalant, almost get flashbacks of AV. I miss “f*** you rabbit ears!”

 

[PuckLuck3043]

I thought we looked better with Quinn

Yeah ok. I never saw a Quinn team do what this team did in the 2nd period tonight. It's only going to get better as the season moves along IMO. I miss Quinn like I miss root canal.

 

[EdJovanovski]

Yeah ok. I never saw a Quinn team do what this team did in the 2nd period tonight. It's only going to get better as the season moves along IMO. I miss Quinn like I miss root canal.

We had some insane comebacks under Quinn. Remember against Montreal? Remember when we came one goal away from the biggest comeback in NHL history against Edmonton? Those teams with Quinn back when we had Lemmy, Tony, Buch; had heart.

 

[mrhockey193195]

Finally watched both last nights game and tonights game, so back online. Not going to read the million comments on both, so all I'll say is - Hank is fantastic in the studio.

 

[PuckLuck3043]

We had some insane comebacks under Quinn. Remember against Montreal? Remember when we came one goal away from the biggest comeback in NHL history against Edmonton? Those teams with Quinn back when we had Lemmy, Tony, Buch; had heart.

Yes I remember. We had 2 insane comebacks because we fell behind by 6 goals under Quinn. Talk to me about how this team looks after 2 months and not 2 games. It's unfair to judge the new coach at this time. We just don't know that much about this team yet.

 

[NYR Viper]

A much better overall effort tonight and surprise, much more of the game was at 5v5. The Rangers have 4 lines they can really roll and that 4th line with Hunt-Rooney-Reaves is very good for their roles. They keep the game simple, chip pucks in, make d-men hate life for a bit and utilize their points to get shots on net and create pressure. It’s very simple and yet very effective because all 3 know their role and can skate. Fox had a couple of his best shifts with that line because they did the dirty work in front.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

Yeah I don't think this changes overnight, it's gonna take a bit.

Maybe y'all weren't here the beginning of 2013-14 when AV took over for Torts. For us who were, remember the team had no idea what they were doing from October until right before the Stadium Series.

Contrary to popular belief 2013-14 was not a fun regular season but a fun playoffs...kinda the inverse of 2011-12 (very fun regular season very painful playoffs).

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

We had some insane comebacks under Quinn. Remember against Montreal? Remember when we came one goal away from the biggest comeback in NHL history against Edmonton? Those teams with Quinn back when we had Lemmy, Tony, Buch; had heart.

Those teams had no heart. It was 80s Beer League Hockey.

They'd give up around 85-90 shot attempts and Igor or Georgiev would have to stand on their head evert night in 5-4 or 6-5 games.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

I thought we looked better with Quinn

One day when I've met my goals in life I'd like to hear about David Quinn again at a party and shake my head at how bad a coach he was.

Kinda like when I was in my early 20s and would talk about Tom Webster or Ron Low at parties.

Until then we need to get over talking about Quinn as much as the team needs to get over the Quinn PTSD.

 

[Zub]

Tampa wins. Detroit never touched the puck the entire overtime

I hate Tampa Bay with a passion, i was dissapointed to see Detroit lose after a game like that.

 

[HFsNumber1Heel]

They looked better overall. Hopefully the second period is the beginning of how they play.

Still not in love with the lines (no chemistry other than the fourth line).

It's too early to start complaining about individual performances but Zibanejad still looks tentative. Why can't Kreider be Game 6 vs. Ottawa in 2017 Kreider? Panarin is playing like a defensive doofus, and Goodrow hasn't done much. He looks more like Rangers Bobby Holik than Tampa Goodrow.

Hunt is meh. He's giving my Taylor Pyatt on the Rangers vibes where he'll make it to about December and then either Barron or Paju replaces him. Kravstov broke my heart, all he had to do was be a little patient and get his chance.

Better games from all of the D. I'm not worried about Lundkvist. First game nerves.

 

[Betelgeuse]

We're fans, so of course we will discuss and analyze every game, every period, every play. That's the social and analytical nature of humans.

But it's also game 2, or 2.4% of the season. Hard to draw trends and extrapolate anything. What we can comment on is that Kakko will get 100pts.