Prospect Info: Owen Beck

[Runner77]

Guess Habs fans need to find a Montreal Country girl for Beck to marry.

Yeah, Kay the country girl.

Once married, she’d become the lovely Kay Beck.

 

[aresknights]

Yes. His tools are too good to don't become at least a 3rd line C. With his offensive talent, 2C potential is there for him. Bo Horvat comparison is truly accurate.... he got great speed, offensive instinct like Horvat. Big big fan of Owen Beck and I think it's a steal by Habs. On some mock draft/rankings he is in top 20.

Bo really worked hard on his skating thru Jr and as a pro and leaps and bounds improvement I'd say Beck was far ahead in skating compared to Bo at the same age. If he puts in the same type work as Bo did (it was impressive being here in Londo what he did) Beck will be a great skater

 

[MonkeyBusiness]

Guess Habs fans need to find a Montreal Country girl for Beck to marry.

You'd have a better chance of finding a unicorn parading the streets in Mtl. If you want to find a country girl in Québec, you'll have to get out of Mtl.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Yeah, Kay the country girl.

Once married, she’d become the lovely Kay Beck.

Shut up dude come on

 

[Paddy17]

I get Mike Fisher vibes with this kid, great in the dot and solid at both ends of the ice.

Or maybe Trocheck. If he's around Trocheck or Fisher level, then it'll be great already. If he becomes remotely close to Bergeron, it would be incredible.

He's got amazing acceleration and terrific speed, good hockey IQ, great a faceoffs, responsible defensively, but what stood out for me was how well he protects the puck and wins board battles.

 

[Redux91]

I mean Team Canada's management clearly chose Kidney over Beck just a month ago

Because he had a 100 point season in the Q, and Team Canada had the benefit of hindsight to make that selection in august instead of december, and played him what, 2 games?

Owen was 17 in December and undrafted, and in august was 18 and 33rd overall coming off decent production but great 2 way play and great on face offs

Look for Team Canada to look strongly in his direction come next december, but the fact he's still only just 18 may work against him
But depending on the season he's having by then, I can totally see him be strongly in the mix

I just cant buy that team canada is SO enamored with Kidney that after selecting him for a kind of taped together tourney in August they dont even play him.
TC might go with the 2way/face offs, we'll see

Shit both might make it ffs lol

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Because he had a 100 point season in the Q, and Team Canada had the benefit of hindsight to make that selection in august instead of december, and played him what, 2 games?

Owen was 17 in December and undrafted, and in august was 18 and 33rd overall coming off decent production but great 2 way play and great on face offs

Look for Team Canada to look strongly in his direction come next december, but the fact he's still only just 18 may work against him
But depending on the season he's having by then, I can totally see him be strongly in the mix

I just cant buy that team canada is SO enamored with Kidney that after selecting him for a kind of taped together tourney in August they dont even play him
TC might go with the 2way/face offs, we'll see

Shit both might make it ffs lol

They bring 14 forwards to the tourney. Not every player that is brought in is expected to be a regular.

Kidney had a much better season than Beck last year + he was selected by team Canada for the August tournament. He didnt play much, but he got the experience of being there.

There's almost no chance that Beck makes it over Kidney considering there's about 2 months to go before the next wjc, which is not enough time to reduce the gap between him and Kidney to the management eye.

I think Beck will end up making the roster, but as a 12-14 forward (to start).

 

[Belial]

I mean Team Canada's management clearly chose Kidney over Beck just a month ago

Beck's an entire year younger. Kidney didn't make the team in December.

 

[26Mats]

I mean Team Canada's management clearly chose Kidney over Beck just a month ago

Shows even experienced management can make boneheaded decisions.

They bring 14 forwards to the tourney. Not every player that is brought in is expected to be a regular.

Kidney had a much better season than Beck last year + he was selected by team Canada for the August tournament. He didnt play much, but he got the experience of being there.

There's almost no chance that Beck makes it over Kidney considering there's about 2 months to go before the next wjc, which is not enough time to reduce the gap between him and Kidney to the management eye.

I think Beck will end up making the roster, but as a 12-14 forward (to start).

If team canada management were watching the rookie tournament there's no way they take kidney over beck, I don't care what the difference. Beck can fly, Kidney lumbers around. Kidney really has to work on his skating.

 

[Halakitlikethat]

If he could be a Mike Fisher type that would be amazing

 

[26Mats]

If he could be a Mike Fisher type that would be amazing

Fischer was 6'1. Beck 5'11. Fischer had a physicality to his game that Beck probably won't have. But hopefully Beck is that two way guy. I like his skating, skill, and tenacity.

 

[NewEraGM]

Ryan Oreilly vibes?
Before the prospect tournament i. Wouldn’t have said that because I didn’t think he had as much offensive upside but maybe he does …I know it’s just 2-3 games but if there is a bit more offense there I can see a Ryan Oreilly who was also a 2nd round pick and surprised alot of people the year after his draft year

 

[Habs Halifax]

5'-11", 190 lbs. Is this his updated height/weight? If so, he's already on the right track to having a body that can deal with the NHL. That's pretty close to Crosby's size already.

 

[goforit]

I mean Team Canada's management clearly chose Kidney over Beck just a month ago

It was before Beck's first pro training camp and that team was mainly december's one.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Fischer was 6'1. Beck 5'11. Fischer had a physicality to his game that Beck probably won't have. But hopefully Beck is that two way guy. I like his skating, skill, and tenacity.

Hard to say at this point in time. Beck is already 190 lbs and Fisher was 198. Size needs to be quantified with both height/weight.

 

[Holystik]

Shut up dude come on

On se calme les ponpons...

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Shows even experienced management can make boneheaded decisions.

If team canada management were watching the rookie tournament there's no way they take kidney over beck, I don't care what the difference. Beck can fly, Kidney lumbers around. Kidney really has to work on his skating.

Using the rookie tournament to argue which player should be taken is an extremely weak argument. Using this logic, if TC has the choice between Beck and Slafkovsky, then they should take Beck since he looked better.

Beck can fly, but that doesn't change the fact that Kidney scored twice as many points as Beck last season. There's absolutely no argument whatsoever that Beck should've been taken over Kidney for the August tournament.
Also, Roy is a bad skater and I doubt TC regrets taking him over Beck.

It was before Beck's first pro training camp and that team was mainly december's one.

Kidney didn't participate in the habs pro camp last season and he wasn't invited to the wjc camp in December.
I also highly doubt that TC's management cares about how a player performs in pro camp.

 

[26Mats]

Using the rookie tournament to argue which player should be taken is an extremely weak argument. Using this logic, if TC has the choice between Beck and Slafkovsky, then they should take Beck since he looked better.

Beck can fly, but that doesn't change the fact that Kidney scored twice as many points as Beck last season. There's absolutely no argument whatsoever that Beck should've been taken over Kidney for the August tournament.
Also, Roy is a bad skater as well. I doubt TC regrets taking him over Beck.



Kidney didn't participate in the habs pro camp last season and he wasn't invited to the wjc camp in December.
I also highly doubt that TC's management cares about how a player performs in pro camp.

It's not using the rookie tournament itself. It's seeing them side by side. That's why they have tryout camps. Many players in the Q outproduced Beck. You don't base who you select based on looking at the stat sheet.

Kidney needs serious work on his skating. That's what I'm basing it on.

I'm not writing Kidney off as a P respect long term. Many have overcome skating woes. I'm just talking the present.

 

[Mrb1p]

Marc Dumont was certainly high enough on Beck other day. Couple days ago on 690 he said Beck reminded him of Danault at his peak.

Big difference is Beck has an actual shot and can score goals from further than 6 feet away from the net.

The rest of their game is somewhat comparable.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

personally i take Beck over Kidney anyday

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

It's not using the rookie tournament itself. It's seeing them side by side. That's why they have tryout camps. Many players in the Q outproduced Beck. You don't base who you select based on looking at the stat sheet.

Kidney needs serious work on his skating. That's what I'm basing it on.

I'm not writing Kidney off as a P respect long term. Many have overcome skating woes. I'm just talking the present.

Stats do matter since it paints a bigger picture. A low-skilled player could score multiple goals in a small sample size of 2-3 games and look like a high-end goalscorer.

Also, Team Canada doesn't pick players based on who has the best chance of becoming an nhl player. Matthew Savoie has a brighter future than most players that were in the August tournament, but he still wasn't picked.

 

[26Mats]

Stats do matter since it paints a bigger picture. A low-skilled player could score multiple goals in a small sample size of 2-3 games and look like a high-end goalscorer.

Also, Team Canada doesn't pick players based on who has the best chance of becoming an nhl player. Matthew Savoie has a brighter future than most players that were in the August tournament, but he still wasn't picked.

With Beck it's not about production during the rookie tournament.

And I have Beck ahead of Kidney now, regardless of the future. But hopefully Kidney can improve his skating...

 

[WeThreeKings]

Kidney has improved his skating. It's better and he's still obviously weak. I don't think it's that big of a worry now.

Comparing Beck and Kidney is weird since they won't play the same role at all in the NHL.

 

[Montreal Impact FC]

I would't say that Beck have 100 % more offence then a 50 pts C in the NHL though even If I really like him

Im talking pure hockey skills.. danault score goals like Gallagher does.. not with skill but with positioning.. and willingness to go to the dirty areas etc..

Beck can be a lot more than that.. doesnt mean he will be. Im talking max offensive potential. I like what i saw. and highly doubt it will take 3 years for him to crack an nhl lineup.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Stats do matter since it paints a bigger picture. A low-skilled player could score multiple goals in a small sample size of 2-3 games and look like a high-end goalscorer.

Also, Team Canada doesn't pick players based on who has the best chance of becoming an nhl player. Matthew Savoie has a brighter future than most players that were in the August tournament, but he still wasn't picked.

And of course, Team Canada has never made a mistake in its selection process.