Team Canada didn't select Slafkovsky and he went 1st overall, it's only one of their many mistakes.
Prospect Info: Owen Beck
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Why would Team Canada select a slovakian player ?
Wait your telling the whole tournament is based on players' birthplace?
Redux91
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I don't know what his future holds but from the quick glimpses from rookie camp through now he has been one impressive young player.
I hope he gets a look for the World Junior Camp in December.
I hope he gets a look for the World Junior Camp in December.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
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Vachon23
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Curious to see what he’s gonna do in a real pre season game
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Kidney looks like a full fledged jabroni compared to Beck. Proof that stats aren't everything.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
About the only way it could happen here is if Montreal keeps Beck up for the 9 games and while they are keeping him up, they tell Mississauga to trade Beck to another team otherwise they are keeping him in the NHL.. and they could either do it or call their bluff.
You mostly see it for 19 year olds since if the team isn't competing, they'll trade them around WJC season for a big haul of draft picks and 15/16 year olds.
So the Steelheads aren't gonna be compelled to trade Beck unless they don't plan on competing the next 2 seasons, I think they do.
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Its easier to score in the Q than in the OHL too.
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Maybe it’s different in the OHL I’m not 100 % sure, but in the Q there is period in the year where QMJHL can make trade (except for 20 yrs old player). It’s between around December 20 and around January 5th (When the CÉGEP session are finish that’s why I’m not sure if it’s like that in the O)
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Theres no issue with Beck staying in Missisauga. He's going to get a lot of minutes, and should be used on the top pp and top pk unit.
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He seems ahead of Roy and Kidney so I can't imagine him not being on the team, barring injury.
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So will Team Canada.
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I'd have to check the stats again, but he GPG is higher in the OHL than the Q and the W for the last few seasons. So I'd argue it's easier to score in the OHL, although the talent pool is overall lower in the Q.
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Turns 19 in Feb. I think if he has a good start to the OHL, he will be in the mix for team Canada. Someone they can groom to play two WJC.
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I would forget the statistics. Rely on the eye test: Kidney has largely been invisible this training camp while Beck has been a force in all three zones. Doesn’t preclude Kidney from developing into superior player, but right now, it’s not even close.
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I mean, yes Beck is better right now and will probably be a better player in the futur but it’s kinda hard to stand out when you play on the 4th line with Guindon and Bourque in the Rouge contre Blanc match up.
Kidney reminds me of Ben Maxwell, a prospect who, a long time ago, was great in juniors and known for his hockey IQ and playmaking, but never made it because he never got strong and fast enough.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
It wasn't so much that, although it played a part.. Ben Maxwell had no inside game to speak of. Kidney shows more promise in that regard, he will get to the middle when necessary and can make plays in tight and through traffic.
I think people need to understand that Kidney is a different project than someone like Beck. Beck has a lot of physical traits that make it easier for him to stand-out right now. Kidney has work to do physically and on his skating.
So expect that Kidney is going to be someone who spends a couple years in the AHL.
Yeah, it wasn't the only reason Maxwell failed, but I think it played a big role. Anyway, I'm hopeful Kidney will develop and improve in those aspects. I'm skeptical right now, but that doesn't mean I wrote him off or making definitive statements on his development curve. He still has lots of time, so we'll see where it goes from here. But...
Back to Owen Beck. One heck of a player! If he can improve his shot accuracy, he'll reach another level offensively.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
It's fair to be skeptical, as you said, making a definitive statement right now is a bit unfair.
In the end, if the gambit on Kidney fails it was still a better gambit than Oliver Kapanen. I'll gamble on talent and IQ that needs to fix skating issues and mature physically vs. low upside talent who might be more physically developed and polished.
Id borrow the old way of evaluating prospects that HF used to do. Kidney if he makes it needs to be top 6 to be effective he's likely a 7D as it's unlikely he gets there. Whereas Beck is more likely to be a middle 6er but is more likely to get there and is like a 6.5 B.
