HF Habs: Out of Town Thread: Off-Season Edition

[The Gr8 Dane]

https://www.x.com/zjlaing/status/1722863474186051845?s=46&t=a3HPp5YfHU2XDo78oSJMFA

its not even on them , oilers have had the worst management in all of hockey for 20 years

 

[WeThreeKings]

Time for Hughes to strike and get us Drai.

 

[morhilane]

Time for Hughes to strike and get us Drai.

For taking Campbell contract.

Drai has a 10 team NTC, Habs are probably on it.

I think going for the Oilers's 1st and 2nd this year might be more manageable..

 

[Paddyjack]

Time for Hughes to strike and get us Drai.

Nah, let's aim high with McD ;p

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

McDavid 2 goals in 10 games...wow

It's plain obvious he's playing injured. He had a lot more jump when the season started. They need to do what's right and let him heal.

 

[MXD]

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Plz no furry actions there are childz on the board thanks.

 

[JuJu Mobb]

Campbell contract is going to ruin Oilers.

Darnell Nurse makes more money than Cale Makar.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Plz no furry actions there are childz on the board thanks.

Speak for yourself

 

[habdynasty]

See what a decade of tanking get you. The oilers and sabres. Almost time for another decade of darkness in Edmonton.

 

[LaP]

See what a decade of tanking get you. The oilers and sabres. Almost time for another decade of darkness in Edmonton.

See Colorado and LA. I wish this kind of straw man arguments would stop being posted. I can show you what a decade of being a bubble team gets you. See the Canadiens. I can do straw man arguments too.

Good management win and bad management lose. Good management wont lose assets for nothing when they don't win which usually result in drafting high. You can call that tanking or you can even call that whatever you want dunno let's call this sinking or exploding or whatever you want really it doesn't matter a bit,

LA

2003 draft 13rd overall
2004 : 11th
2005 : 11th
2006 : 11th, 17th
2007 : 4th
2008 : 2nd
2009 : 5th


Col

2009 draft 3rd overall
2010 : 17th
2011 : 2nd
2012 : traded their first
2013 : 1st overall
2014 : 23rd
2015 : 10th
2016 : 10th
2017 : 4th

Now i know someone will come here and say both LA and Colorado did not try to tank because they were trying to win and bla bla bla bla bla bla and in the case of Colorado it's true that they tried to win between Duchesne, ROR and McKinon but Duchene still helped them to get a 4th overall pick which helped the current core. And anyway the reasons why you suck don't matter at all if you suck you suck that's all. End result is the same you get high picks and you suck.

 

[waffledave]

See what a decade of tanking get you. The oilers and sabres. Almost time for another decade of darkness in Edmonton.

People think you can build a cup contender out of players who only know how to lose. That's what they want for us here in Montreal too. You need to know how to win sometimes.

 

[LaP]

People think you can build a cup contender out of players who only know how to lose. That's what they want for us here in Montreal too. You need to know how to win sometimes.

Knowing how to win with Sergei Zholtok, Oleg Petrov and Danius Zubrus or even DD as your first line center is kind of pointless though. So if you can't get the high end skills via UFA or trades then there's just one other way to get it. UFA and trades failed for 30 years now. You know the definition of insanity ...

 

[waffledave]

Knowing how to win with Sergei Zholtok, Oleg Petrov and Danius Zubrus or even DD as your first line center is kind of pointless though. So if you can't get the high end skills via UFA or trades then there's just one other way to get it. UFA and trades failed for 30 years now. You know the definition of insanity ...

You can't win with those guys though. But at least right now we have 3 guys playing at a PPG pace and getting better each game. Plus tons of young guys with high upside. People still want to keep tanking for years though, even if Suzuki and Caufield's contracts don't fit into that kind of timeline.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

I sincerely hope Edmonton pulls it together. If they don’t they could actually lose that franchise. Last thing I’d like to see is one less Canadian team.

They need help and a coaching change isn’t going to fix it.

 

[Whitesnake]

If there was one play where a guy could have been paralyzed....it's this one. Lehky was lucky. Thank god.

 

[LaP]

I sincerely hope Edmonton pulls it together. If they don’t they could actually lose that franchise. Last thing I’d like to see is one less Canadian team.

They need help and a coaching change isn’t going to fix it.

They need to clean house. That's the only way to get players on board again. Their current management did not do anything great in the lass few years. That contract to Nurse is putrid. Giving that amount of money to Campbell was stupid. They really need a better management.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

They need to clean house. That's the only way to get players on board again. Their current management did not do anything great in the lass few years. That contract to Nurse is putrid. Giving that amount of money to Campbell was stupid. They really need a better management.

I guess. But there are a few problems here.

1. I get him signing Nurse. Nobody wants to live in Edmonton. What does it say if they just let their best blueliner walk? It’s a really tough situation.

2. Attracting talent is hard. Nevermind players… how are you going to get a strong GM to go there?

3. Now they’re in such a deep hole - and McDrai may leave. It’s just a brutal situation. What GM wants to walk into that?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

If there was one play where a guy could have been paralyzed....it's this one. Lehky was lucky. Thank god.

Jimminy Crickets

 

[LaP]

I guess. But there are a few problems here.

1. I get him signing Nurse. Nobody wants to live in Edmonton. What does it say if they just let their best blueliner walk? It’s a really tough situation.

2. Attracting talent is hard. Nevermind players… how are you going to get a strong GM to go there?

3. Now they’re in such a deep hole - and McDrai may leave. It’s just a brutal situation. What GM wants to walk into that?

Sometime you have to let good players walk. Good management do it all the time. In a cap era you have to manage the cap. The two important players are McDavid and Draislt. The rest is interchangeable. Pens support around Malkin, Crosby and Letang has been a revolving door or players. Also if Nurse is your best dman then your defense is pretty bad. He's not a number 1 in my book and should not be paid as such.

 

[Frankenheimer]

See Colorado and LA. I wish this kind of straw man arguments would stop being posted. I can show you what a decade of being a bubble team gets you. See the Canadiens. I can do straw man arguments too.

Good management win and bad management lose. Good management wont lose assets for nothing when they don't win which usually result in drafting high. You can call that tanking or you can even call that whatever you want dunno let's call this sinking or exploding or whatever you want really it doesn't matter a bit,

LA

2003 draft 13rd overall
2004 : 11th
2005 : 11th
2006 : 11th, 17th
2007 : 4th
2008 : 2nd
2009 : 5th


Col

2009 draft 3rd overall
2010 : 17th
2011 : 2nd
2012 : traded their first
2013 : 1st overall
2014 : 23rd
2015 : 10th
2016 : 10th
2017 : 4th

Now i know someone will come here and say both LA and Colorado did not try to tank because they were trying to win and bla bla bla bla bla bla and in the case of Colorado it's true that they tried to win between Duchesne, ROR and McKinon but Duchene still helped them to get a 4th overall pick which helped the current core. And anyway the reasons why you suck don't matter at all if you suck you suck that's all. End result is the same you get high picks and you suck.

There’s a tremendous amount of luck in things working out in the NHL. I realize we desperately want to say that management determines everything but luck and circumstance are much more influential. Ken Holland won three cups in Detroit.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Sometime you have to let good players walk. Good management do it all the time. In a cap era you have to manage the cap. The two important players are McDavid and Draislt. The rest is interchangeable. Pens support around Malkin, Crosby and Letang has been a revolving door or players. Also if Nurse is your best dman then your defense is pretty bad. He's not a number 1 in my book and should not be paid as such.

I probably would’ve let him walk too. But people who call him an idiot don’t appreciate Holland’s situation. They’re supposed to be going for it. How do you let your best blueliner walk?

And a lot of players want a premium to player there… it’s a tough situation.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

So we Accelerating the rebuild for Dry Sandal or McJesus right?!?!

 

[morhilane]

So we Accelerating the rebuild for Dry Sandal or McJesus right?!?!

We would just be the Oilers 2.0: poor goaltending and defense with some elite forwards.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

We would just be the Oilers 2.0: poor goaltending and defense with some elite forwards.

Defence looks fine down the line , we need elite forward talent , Drai will cost like 12 million though which is a no go

 

[morhilane]

Defence looks fine down the line , we need elite forward talent , Drai will cost like 12 million though which is a no go

"Down the line" is like 4 years from now, Drai will be 32-33 by then and most probably declining .