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HF Habs: Out of Town Thread: Off-Season Edition
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Skip Bayless
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Jabronis will never ever learn.
Ozmodiar
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No reason at all - except! - now we all know who Nolan Dillingham is.
So mission accomplished for Nolan, I guess.
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4d chess move by Brière to get the NHL-KHL agreement canceled and have Michkov with the Flyers next season?
MarkovsKnee
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4d chess move by Brière to get the NHL-KHL agreement canceled and have Michkov with the Flyers next season?
He won't. Russians have to do military service. There's ways to get out of it legitimately (like going to university which Michkov is doing). He has to complete those requirements before coming over, or else he risks becoming another Fedotov.
It's more for players who have contracts and have also completed those requirements like Carolina's prospect Nikishin or even Montreal's just recently drafted player Konyushkov, who just signed a three year extension while still having a year left on his contract (so 4 years).
Normally, he wouldn't be able to come over for 4 years due to that contract, but maybe he comes over in 2 if NHL decides not to recognize KHL contracts due to this.
It's a contract that was forced on Fedotov too.
Whitesnake
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Who was this guy one day who hit a veteran during a camp and was pratically fired on the spot and it took time for him to comeback from this...
Anyway, it's one thing to be remembered....but there's a limit.
Anyway, it's one thing to be remembered....but there's a limit.
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There's so much 'fog' between the KHL and NHL and it seems very few reporters are interested enough to actually look into the topics at hand.
Like when some bozos insisted that Russia or its president held Kaprizov back last summer when the reality was that the US Gov did not renew Kaprizov's visa on time and restricted consular services in Russia, thereby requiring Kaprizov to apply through a consulate in the Mid East. To this day some commentators insist otherwise.
I don't know the story of Fedetov but there is an opportunity for the NHL and KHL to demonstrate that a full, permanent divorce between their respective leagues is not good for anybody. I hope they come to terms and the IIHF plays a positive role.
Yeah you're right, we need an objective and neutral mediator like René Fasel on the case.
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The Player Transfer Agreement Fasel oversaw hurt all the Euro leagues in a major way. They did not get adequate compensation for their valuable player-assets -- that's partially why these leagues don't care about developing young talents for the NHL, their compensation is peanuts. How much do you know about the Malkin case?
The IIHF is a very poorly run organization in any case.
You're right, René Fasel isn't pro Russia enough for us to get a fair settlement. The only fair mediator I can think of at this point is probably Roman Rotenberg.
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How much do you know about the Malkin case?
It has nothing to do with Russia -- the sport would benefit from a fair PTA between the leagues.
From 2006:
2.0M USD would've been fair for one of the best prospect of all time, 0.2M USD is a slap in the face. Because the American courts and IIHF sided with the NHL in this case, European leagues (not just Russian) had very little incentive to develop NHL talents. That's why you get caveats about how these leagues are not feeder leagues or development leagues... their profit motive with player development has been smashed to bits and limited to a measly 200,000K USD.
Russian hockey club sees red over missing Malkin
Russia's Metallurg Magnitogorsk will go to court to seek compensation from the Pittsburgh Penguins after the sudden disappearance of their best player, Evgeni Malkin, the Superleague club's head said on Sunday.
Very plainly the IIHF dropped the ball.
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The NHL's players? No. Our players.
I don't think much would change, and I don't think negotiations with the KHL on a PTA would be fruitful. The best players go to the best league, and the rest go to the rest. What's interesting about the current arrangement is that there's any compensation at all.
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If there is a will there is a way, and negotiations and agreements are always better than inextricable conflict (ahem...). The problem is the IIHF is smaller than the NHL and holds no leverage -- if they suspend the involvement of Hockey Canada, USA Hockey, or the NHL in their tournaments the leadership of those organizations would probably shrug it off.
If there is no PTA, players can sign multiple contracts with multiple teams and jump between them. That's chaos and will hurt the NHL's vice-grip on rookies and RFAs. Only the very best prospects would bet that they can earn more than 0.8m/year after their 3-year rookie contract. Players at around the 1-1.5m mark will have options abroad, giving them leverage over their rights-holding clubs in the NHL. Players sent down to the AHL would jump over to Europe in a moment. No professional sport would tolerate this sort of contract mayhem, it would look terrible.
If there is a PTA, where all leagues respect each other's contracts, it give clear boundaries to players and allow for better and more professional roster planning. Compensation is in question now -- a fixed fee is nonsense. If a player's contract rights are under control, the rights holder has the right to set the price to sell it. That's how it works in nearly all European professional sports leagues. I'd be for allowed a player buy-out option too, and NHL teams should be allowed to pay for it and have it count against the salary cap.
At the same time the IIHF has a lot to do to grow the sport's commercial viability in Europe and elsewhere -- so to grow the sport. It's not the NHL's job to grow the sport, it's the IIHF's and they've done an awful job at it. But I digress.
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Holy shit dude. This can totally end someone's career. Guy obviously has f***ing rocks for brains.
Archijerej
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Sign him up I like players who hit Leafs like that.
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Surprising, but apparently Michkov didn't want to play in Washington (and less surprisingly, in Arizona). I guess what Nikolishin said about the disrespect might have been true. Really weird predraft stuff around MM, it sounds a bit like Jagr back decades ago.
waffledave
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This is a total guess but based on the reports about how Michkov didn't seem to like questions about his defensive play in the interviews, was shaking his head/scoffing, I suspect he chose Philly because they didn't ask him about it. Briere doesn't care about playing defensively.
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I understand why some players decide to make a hit as they are trying to make a name for themselves. But still, an intersquad game isnt the time to do it.
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