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Meaning he expects results equivalent with the dollars he spends. He doesn't want to spend money aimlessly on guys who underperform.
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Meaning he expects results equivalent with the dollars he spends. He doesn't want to spend money aimlessly on guys who underperform.
Well to some degree yes....but he said that in response to being asked if he would pay top dollar for Babcock. My question is, does he realize there is no way to tell how the team will respond. and what kind of results are acceptable, missing the playoffs by 1 point as opposed to 15-20, or do results demand a playoff appearance....i guess it depend how well we do in free agency and acquiring players. to what end is it worth paying 8mil per for a coach? And you bet your butt this will definitely setup all this years playoff coaches for the future. Teams will be forced to pay for the likes of Trotz, Budreau, Hartley, etc
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I take it as meaning the exact opposite. He wants a return on every dollar he spends and how much of a return can you possibly get on paying a coach over $7 million a year with our current roster? To me it points even more towards a younger guy.
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Shero wouldnt be doing his job if he didnt at least reach out to Babcock. Harris wouldnt be doing his job if he didnt say he would pay top dollar for anything that might make the team better. It would also be under cutting Shero's ability to go talk to Babcock or any other coach now or in the future.
Either way i highly doubt Babcock comes anywhere near NJ. Im perfectly ok with that. Who i want instead is a different question because i dont know. I think i want someone who will grow with this team.
I would LOVE to have stable management on this team for a long time. I would love to have Shero and whoever he hires be around for a long long time together. We havent had a long-term coach before i think it would be great if we could find that guy now and run with it.
Either way i highly doubt Babcock comes anywhere near NJ. Im perfectly ok with that. Who i want instead is a different question because i dont know. I think i want someone who will grow with this team.
I would LOVE to have stable management on this team for a long time. I would love to have Shero and whoever he hires be around for a long long time together. We havent had a long-term coach before i think it would be great if we could find that guy now and run with it.
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Agree on all counts. I expect Babcock to be contacted by NJ. Whether he politely declines or listens to what they have to say, who knows? Whatever the case may be, I want whoever we hire to be here for a while and because they are good enough to do so. I want a coach that willl come in knowing full well that they will have to mentor and grow with this team as we address our notable deficiencies. I'd like him to be allowed to grow the team the right way and reap the benefits of his efforts.
To quote Jeff Goldblum in Run Ronnie Run: "I want a good coach. And I want angels to give him to me. And pixies to deliver him to me, and a gnome or a hobbit or an elf to sleep at the foot of my bed, and have - I just want them all over my backyard. But no matter what happens with any of that, I DO want a good coach."
Ok, maybe he said that about money and not coaches but this sums up my feelings.
No doubt the owners will be willing to pay Babcock his 5 million he is asking. A coach is definitely more important to a team's success vs a $5-6 million UFA.
Personally I don't see Babcock going somewhere that has a GM of Shero and a President of Lou. I think Babcock would like to be club's number 1 voice. I think he will get that if he coaches in EDM, BUF, or SJS.
There are a lot of openings and my guess is Babcock is going to pick a club that has a strong future (ie cup contenders in 0-3 years) and whatever his family prefers to be around.
If it was just based on hockey I don't think he could go anywhere, but EDM. They will pay his price and they have a very young team that assets to trade to suit Babcock style.
Personally I don't see Babcock going somewhere that has a GM of Shero and a President of Lou. I think Babcock would like to be club's number 1 voice. I think he will get that if he coaches in EDM, BUF, or SJS.
There are a lot of openings and my guess is Babcock is going to pick a club that has a strong future (ie cup contenders in 0-3 years) and whatever his family prefers to be around.
If it was just based on hockey I don't think he could go anywhere, but EDM. They will pay his price and they have a very young team that assets to trade to suit Babcock style.
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Maybe not Edmonton since Chiarelli's there. And Murray seems to have been given ownership's blessing to do whatever in Buffalo.
IF Babcock's being transparent about not needing power then it comes down to money, place to live and opportunity to win. Money can be made equal here but opportunity might be another story, we're definitely more of a project than what he's leaving or what he could get elsewhere. And place to live is a wild card - i.e. family wishes...if you believe him in his season-ending presser his wife's definitely going to have a say in things
You'd get a lot more return on Babcock than any FA player you'd have to give similar money to this offseason.
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From a $ standpoint I disagree as this isn't a playoff team in my eyes next year.Maybe not Edmonton since Chiarelli's there. And Murray seems to have been given ownership's blessing to do whatever in Buffalo.
IF Babcock's being transparent about not needing power then it comes down to money, place to live and opportunity to win. Money can be made equal here but opportunity might be another story, we're definitely more of a project than what he's leaving or what he could get elsewhere. And place to live is a wild card - i.e. family wishes...if you believe him in his season-ending presser his wife's definitely going to have a say in things
You'd get a lot more return on Babcock than any FA player you'd have to give similar money to this offseason.
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Ya, I guess my preference is just for an AHL guy like Blashill or John Hynes. I just don't think Babcock as the guy for us...
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it cant hurt to try and at least reach out to babs and see what the deal is. i actually wouldnt mind him coming to nj, but i highly doubt he would want to be in the swamps lolol
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Ray Shero thinks very high on Pittsburgh's AHL head coach apparently . (John Hynes).
http://www.thescore.com/news/761960
http://www.thescore.com/news/761960
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Boulder of salt taken here but possible too.
Definitely one of many directions but I do wonder if Pitt would even allow it.
This whole compensation thing is going to make this offseason interesting with so many firings.
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It is more than a boulder of salt... John Hynes was a rockstar with the US Development team at a young age before he took a job at Wisconsin. It was Shero's close ties with Hockey USA that brought Hynes to Pittsburgh.
John Hynes was a player at BU while I was attending grad school there. He was on the team with Jay Pandolfo and Chris Drury, not much of hockey player. I read a coach profile that says he has a lot of similarities to Bylsma.
http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2012/03/26/profiles-in-coaching-john-hynes/
John Hynes was a player at BU while I was attending grad school there. He was on the team with Jay Pandolfo and Chris Drury, not much of hockey player. I read a coach profile that says he has a lot of similarities to Bylsma.
http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2012/03/26/profiles-in-coaching-john-hynes/
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Don't see how Shero prys him out of there then. Seems like he is set to eventually take the Penguins HC job at some point.
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Would make sense but the Pens just went through a coaching change and he was passed over by the current administration.
At this point Hynes is probably a decent choice for a very young team.. His strength is supposed to be dealing with young players and development.... Not sure a contender would want him as a first choice though... He would be a good coach for a tear down.
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Hynes is a promising coach, he could be looked at as the future Penguins coach.
However, if Shero asks the Penguins for permission to interview him, they'll allow it. The Penguins are the type of organization that won't prevent someone from a better job opportunity. They let Todd Richards and Mike Yeo interview and leave for head coaching positions, Hynes will be no different.
However, if Shero asks the Penguins for permission to interview him, they'll allow it. The Penguins are the type of organization that won't prevent someone from a better job opportunity. They let Todd Richards and Mike Yeo interview and leave for head coaching positions, Hynes will be no different.
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Also seems like he might be good for someone like Sabres or the Oilers.
His profile is interesting might not be a bad move and would fit the "grow with the team" idea. Also based on that article he does seem to focus on D.
His profile is interesting might not be a bad move and would fit the "grow with the team" idea. Also based on that article he does seem to focus on D.
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Babcock meeting with Buffalo owner and GM.
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=767229&navid=nhl:topheads
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=767229&navid=nhl:topheads
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Plenty of teams can out bid them. IF a team will is another question (Leafs might).
Not sure money is the only factor though.
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Grad school, but I didn't finish there because of a job offer I couldn't refuse.. Undergrad Northeastern where my captain was Dan McGillis...when he played for Edmonton there were some serious celebrations on Huntington ave..
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