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As a Chargers fan I have no real allegiance to where they would be playing, whether it was San Diego, Carson or Inglewood. I guess if I ended up back living in OC it's more appealing to go to San Diego than Inglewood, but that stadium was a complete dump and something had to be done, so I am ok with the move to Inglewood.

BTW, did the Chargers bail on the Raiders and Carson on their own or was it encouragement from the league?
 
Hopefully, this will be the best game of the bowl season, but then again that wouldn't be saying much.
 
Herby said:
As a Chargers fan I have no real allegiance to where they would be playing, whether it was San Diego, Carson or Inglewood. I guess if I ended up back living in OC it's more appealing to go to San Diego than Inglewood, but that stadium was a complete dump and something had to be done, so I am ok with the move to Inglewood.

BTW, did the Chargers bail on the Raiders and Carson on their own or was it encouragement from the league?
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No so much the league pushing it, but a coalition of owners, led by Jerry Jones.

Reportedly, Spanos doesn't want to be seen as doing that, but let's face it, all these guys are scum bags anyway. If it gets him out of San Diego, he'll do it.
 
Vamos Rafa said:
But, but. St. Louis is the best sports city in the country!

http://www.wsj.com/articles/ranking...5new-york-ok-philadelphia-terrible-1451696231
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Believe that ranking is based strictly on winning percentage.

St. Louis is a below average sports town. Much like LA it's dominated by one team, which I think really makes any city suffer as a sports town.

Biggest issue for the Rams is the same one that plagued the Falcons and the Sharks and to some extent even the Ducks. Facilities were all built about a decade before the modern ones like Staples Center, Ford Field etc. and you can totally tell. If San Diego or St. Louis had realistic stadium situations I doubt they leave, but hard to turn down a state of the art stadium in the second largest market in the country, even if LA is a marginal football town.
 
Two heavyweights slugging it out in the National Championship game. I hate to admit it, but the best college football is played in the southeastern United States.
 
Vamos Rafa said:
The only people who hate to admit it are insecure Pac 12 fans
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No, there are plenty of Big Ten fans who have a tough time admitting it. Although Ohio St. did win the NC last year.

The Pac-12 usually has lots of solid depth (was way down this year), but they probably won't win another NC until USC gets back to relevance.
 
Vamos Rafa said:
The only people who hate to admit it are insecure Pac 12 fans
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Top to bottom the Pac-12 may be the best conference in the country, and their record in bowl games usually bears that out. There just isn't as much football talent in the western U.S. as there is in the southeast, and it is more evenly distributed among 8 or 9 teams in the Pac-12.
 
Ron said:
Apparently, profootballtalk.com thinks it can't be just one team...they say that San Diego is close to the 24 owner-votes needed if by themselves, and St. Louis is "not close" to the 24 owner-votes needed by themselves. But that both teams and the odds are they will get the votes.

Mind you, they offer no reason for their claims, but that never stopped the media from writing something without credible sources...

...right, CG?

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Dude. It's not just PFT. It's been every one in the media saying 2 teams. Furthermore it's been an open secret for months that's it's either 2 teams coming or no teams.
 
Pac-12 Bowl tie-ins and playing most of the bowl games on the West Coast have a lot to do with that. Not really their fault because the Big Ten/SEC have so many tie-ins but just look at the opponents they played and where they played them.

I mean for years the Pac-12 runner up would play in the Holiday Bowl in San Diego against the Big 12's fourth ranked team.
 
kingskring said:
Dude. It's not just PFT. It's been every one in the media saying 2 teams. Furthermore it's been an open secret for months that's it's either 2 teams coming or no teams.
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Dude.

I mean, dude! I contested PFT's claim as to how many owner-votes there are. PFT provides no sources for such a claim.

Get it right, dude.......or I am going to have to paint you as a crossing guard too.
 
Ron said:
Dude.

I mean, dude! I contested PFT's claim as to how many owner-votes there are. PFT provides no sources for such a claim.

Get it right, dude.......or I am going to have to paint you as a crossing guard too.
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My bad. It's late and I'm going on 2 hours of sleep. I never needed a crossing guard in my school days. Though my school was near a crossing arm for trains!
 
Ron said:
Dude.

I mean, dude! I contested PFT's claim as to how many owner-votes there are. PFT provides no sources for such a claim.

Get it right, dude.......or I am going to have to paint you as a crossing guard too.
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Eh. Will be nice to have 4 football teams in LA next year. (YES IM COUNTING UCLA AND USC) who are better football teams than the Browns
 
No one reports their sources, not Florio, not Schefter, not Mortenson.

Florio and PFT are pretty spot on, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. But who knows, sometimes these guys are way off, around this time last year all the NFL insiders were saying Harbaugh had no interest in college when in reality he had verbally committed to coach UM weeks before.
 
Herby said:
No one reports their sources, not Florio, not Schefter, not Mortenson.

Florio and PFT are pretty spot on, so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. But who knows, sometimes these guys are way off, around this time last year all the NFL insiders were saying Harbaugh had no interest in college when in reality he had verbally committed to coach UM weeks before.
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Up until now, I haven't heard anyone claim that ANY team had the necessary votes to move OR that the move was a done deal. It seems like they came up with "close to 24 votes for San Diego" and "not close to 24 votes for St. Louis" out of thin air.

You don't have to "name" your sources. But they didn't claim it was FROM a source. They appeared to have absolutely made it up.
 
kingskring said:
@Ron

My crystal ball says we know the teams by close of business Tomorrow. Agree?
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Let me tell you what happened in 1995. Most of the owners voted for the Rams to stay. I don't recall the actual count, but it was something like 23 to 5, with many owners grandstanding and saying they believed in "tradition" and "foundation."

Then the Rams said, hey, we will increase (double?) your relocation fees!!!! Guess what those high and mighty owners did?

So, I don't know. The mother-****ers might say no. Then the Rams might say...Hey! We will increase your relocation fees!!!!

You know the rest of the story.
 
Herby said:
What does Mike Florio get out of making up the story though?
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I don't know, ask him.

Bottom line: I would like to know where they got the numbers. How does he know which owner is going to vote which way? There are 32 of them out there. Who's voting for them to go, and who is voting for them to stay?
 
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