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Drivesaitl

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I’ve had my share of many rums over the years but I have to say I like my Cognac & Armagnac nowadays.
Maybe a little sip of B & B as well.
I went through some Cognac stages as well. haven't indulged in awhile. I think the most impressive thing is just how good they were. The distilling standards impeccable, and it shows in finished product.

As much as I like Rum its easy to get constantly disappointed. One can taste and see so many things with usual Rums that are inferior. Anything from the wrong offing alcohol notes to lack of proper ageing to some aspects seeming just off. Can tell even from the pour whats wrong with some rums.

But Rum was my mainstay most of my life. Had a Tequila phase too but thats another spirit that is often botched.

Should share that I've made lots of wine and beer in my life so I knowing something about hobby brewing, distilling etc. I stopped basically due to caloric consumption and not wanting to drink so much. lol
 
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Guy is good, pouring the paint while moving and painting the lines at the same time, I would make a total mess.

I never made an S as pretty as that even on paper and anytime I have to I still struggle to write out the @ symbol in writing. ffs I screw it up half the time. This is obviously an old person comment but imagine if we had to learn alphabets all over at this age and say 50 other new symbols to write out.

My wife is worse. She prints out "at" if I don't check her work. hehe

Apparently I'm not alone. I just kind of do my best at some of these symbols

f*** you ampersand, you look like a f***ing number 8 half the time. lol I give up. heh Its hilarious how ampersand is the most watched part of the video. Most people don't even know what the word means.



I have trouble learning new knots too so seems like some sort of weird problem.

This is OT thread so the right place but how many people here learned to put two lines through the money symbol. $. Instead of the one stroke presently used. In writing I'm still used to putting two strokes down.

For winning the internet pts describe why it changed and when abouts the change occurred to only one stroke?
 
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Just arrived in Edmonton yesterday. You guys were not lying. The mosquitos are insane!!

They have settled down quite a bit too in the past couple days. Yesterday I was only lifted several meters in the air by several thousand while walking the dog whereas a few days earlier they blocked out the sun.
 

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Just arrived in Edmonton yesterday. You guys were not lying. The mosquitos are insane!!
Pretty much been a summer where you can't even go hiking in ravines or river valley. One of the weird things too is that some of these buggers still bite in the heat and direct sun. Usually they like the shadier and cooler spots.

That said they are not the most aggressive I've ever seen, just so many of them.

On a positive note though in our neighborhood Wasps and Hornets have been down in numbers. More bees this summer which is positive. Haven't had aphids in the garden either, positive.
 

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Just arrived in Edmonton yesterday. You guys were not lying. The mosquitos are insane!!
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Some of these put up and around should do the trick.
 

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So just a little over 3 days and not a whole lot of information about the WEM shooting.

Went from being an active shooter with people scared shitless to "there was a shooting the other day?"
 

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So just a little over 3 days and not a whole lot of information about the WEM shooting.

Went from being an active shooter with people scared shitless to "there was a shooting the other day?"
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the victims are not cooperating with police.

Agreed though, just business as usual ramping up into one of the busier times in the year at the mall.
 
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the victims are not cooperating with police.

Agreed though, just business as usual ramping up into one of the busier times in the year at the mall.
I mean there are probably 30000 cameras in the mall shouldn't be hard to give the info to the public to see what they know.

But let me guess they will wait a month because they are close to breaking the case right now. Only to find out that the people involved are long gone. Just like every other dangerous crime that happens in the City.
 

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I mean there are probably 30000 cameras in the mall shouldn't be hard to give the info to the public to see what they know.

But let me guess they will wait a month because they are close to breaking the case right now. Only to find out that the people involved are long gone. Just like every other dangerous crime that happens in the City.
They even recovered the SUV. I do get they shouldn't give out info that could risk compromising the case. But at the same time there should be further statements by EPS to the public.
 

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They even recovered the SUV. I do get they shouldn't give out info that could risk compromising the case. But at the same time there should be further statements by EPS to the public.
What is it going to compromise by releasing their photos?

I know they are criminals and all, but are they really that stupid that they wouldn't be trying to go into hiding already? I can't see how releasing their photos forces these guys further underground than they already are.
 

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What is it going to compromise by releasing their photos?

I know they are criminals and all, but are they really that stupid that they wouldn't be trying to go into hiding already? I can't see how releasing their photos forces these guys further underground than they already are.
Criminal justice system in Canada is cooked. Wont release victim or arrested names or photos because it might hurt someone’s feelings. Transparency isn’t an objective in our judicial system unfortunately.
 
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say that the victims are not cooperating with police.

Agreed though, just business as usual ramping up into one of the busier times in the year at the mall.
Our illustrious Mayors little speech on the affair stating "we can't have this interfere with shopping emphasized more importance being put on the market effect than on any personal injuries and/or risk to the public.

As per usual the message was don't perceive risk, continue to please go about your shopping. City recognizes its cash cows I guess. Too bad it doesn't act to protect the DT as well.
 

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Criminal justice system in Canada is cooked. Wont release victim or arrested names or photos because it might hurt someone’s feelings. Transparency isn’t an objective in our judicial system unfortunately.
I hear more bitching about paper than I ever did plastic lol. Now we are killing too many trees by going to paper. The bags and straws are so flipping useless too. I rarely get iced coffee, but I did a few weeks ago on a hot day. I felt sick after from the taste of cardboard. Plastic bags use to be reused for lunches and my garbage cans. Nope now I have to buy plastic bags for the garbages and the paper bags are literally single use.

Probably won't release any information as they know who the people are and they shouldn't be on the street in the first place. 3D chess trying to save face :help:
 

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Criminal justice system in Canada is cooked. Wont release victim or arrested names or photos because it might hurt someone’s feelings. Transparency isn’t an objective in our judicial system unfortunately.
My first thoughts, and anybody that has any familiarity with the gangbanger crime here is that there will be a response within the week. Not ever a response that mitigates or ends the violence but the "victims" in this assault being connected with, or the perps in another.

Theres our healthcare system putting these uncooperative "targeted" people first in line while innocents sit and wait.

On the paper straws the checks and balances for this kind of thing seem to consist only of "will these be perceived as green efforts" Whether they actually are seems a dubious point in present day.
If theres any solace its that the ones we get in Canada dissolve right in the act of using them. Not sure how they are not biodegradable when merely passing fluid through them turns them to slush.

I have a reserve supply of plastic straws that I bought. Ecocops will be pounding my door down in seconds.. ;)
 
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Criminal justice system in Canada is cooked. Wont release victim or arrested names or photos because it might hurt someone’s feelings. Transparency isn’t an objective in our judicial system unfortunately.

I don’t disagree about the many glaring flaws in our justice system however making details in cases, especially when they are investigations and not brought to formal criminal charges, is not about feelings.

The media and the public, in particular the completely out of control, perpetually and professionally offended Twitter X Threads pitchfork mobs who believe you’re guilty even without charges and at merely a suggestion of wrongdoing.

Most of the public also believes that with charges laid you must be guilty, why else would the police charge you? The police now just charge everyone remotely involved - around and let the courts figure it out. People are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

As for victims identities being made public, people have a strong right to privacy. The public has zero right to know who the victim of a crime is much less published details and photos of the victim.

The public’s curiosity in such matters doesn’t overwrite people’s rights. Especially when most people merely read / skim sensationalist headlines/clickbait on Twitter or CNN or Fox ( “shocking” is the most overused word in headlines today ) and don’t actually take the time to read a properly written news article or watch local news reporting anymore or make any effort to contextualize / understand the news.

Like the great Indian philosopher once said “the people are re-tarded”.

 
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I don’t disagree about the many glaring flaws in our justice system however making details in cases, especially when they are investigations and not brought to formal criminal charges, is not about feelings.

The media and the public, in particular the completely out of control, perpetually and professionally offended Twitter X Threads pitchfork mobs who believe you’re guilty even without charges and at merely a suggestion of wrongdoing.

Most of the public also believes that with charges laid you must be guilty, why else would the police charge you? The police now just charge everyone remotely involved - around and let the courts figure it out. People are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

As for victims identities being made public, people have a strong right to privacy. The public has zero right to know who the victim of a crime is much less published details and photos of the victim.

The public’s curiosity in such matters doesn’t overwrite people’s rights. Especially when most people merely read / skim sensationalist headlines/clickbait on Twitter or CNN or Fox ( “shocking” is the most overused word in headlines today ) and don’t actually take the time to read a properly written news article or watch local news reporting anymore or make any effort to contextualize / understand the news.

Like the great Indian philosopher once said “the people are re-tarded”.


I would tend to counter that a brazenly conducted public shooting in the busiest place in Western Canada that put public at risk deserves a little more transparency.

Nor do I realize how a crime that is caught on cameras would have privacy emphasized.

Time and again one can suss out details online and find out the whodunnit.

Indeed the Mother and Child that were murdered in broad daylight in Millwoods by an assailant, the same thing happened, repression of reporting of it, police not releasing offender details even though the defender was dead. The perp was outed and named in social media posts. The perp should have been identified by officials. What reason was there not to?
 
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I don’t disagree about the many glaring flaws in our justice system however making details in cases, especially when they are investigations and not brought to formal criminal charges, is not about feelings.

The media and the public, in particular the completely out of control, perpetually and professionally offended Twitter X Threads pitchfork mobs who believe you’re guilty even without charges and at merely a suggestion of wrongdoing.

Most of the public also believes that with charges laid you must be guilty, why else would the police charge you? The police now just charge everyone remotely involved - around and let the courts figure it out. People are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

As for victims identities being made public, people have a strong right to privacy. The public has zero right to know who the victim of a crime is much less published details and photos of the victim.

The public’s curiosity in such matters doesn’t overwrite people’s rights. Especially when most people merely read / skim sensationalist headlines/clickbait on Twitter or CNN or Fox ( “shocking” is the most overused word in headlines today ) and don’t actually take the time to read a properly written news article or watch local news reporting anymore or make any effort to contextualize / understand the news.

Like the great Indian philosopher once said “the people are re-tarded”.


I never said anywhere that details of investigations should be released, I only spoke to photos of arrested and or victims of crime.

But on that point, when a public matter such as the WEM shootings occurs I would argue that periodic updates to the community affected isn’t out of line so that they can learn that progress is being made and their own public safety is safeguarded. I’m a strong supporter of the the blue line but I can’t blindly just accept things because “they say so”. This sorely lacks in most Canadian enforcement efforts - think Nova Scotia shootings, New Brunswick, Saskatchewan James Gordon Band shootings, it’s a pattern of cloaking and non information dissemination that the RCMP typically use (although it isnt unique to that policing organization, Toronto’s police is the same. Bill Blair has continued that approach in his various federal ministerial roles as well). Canadian police and jurisprudence would stand to improve if it increased its communication and thereby, transparency in matters.

I can accept that publishing victims names and photos is contentious and where minors are involved, privacy is paramount. However it speaks to a larger issue of transparency when there isn’t public disclosure in matters of public safety in general terms. This is but one of them.
 
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I never said anywhere that details of investigations should be released, I only spoke to photos of arrested and or victims of crime.

But on that point, when a public matter such as the WEM shootings occurs I would argue that periodic updates to the community affected isn’t out of line so that they can learn that progress is being made and their own public safety is safeguarded. I’m a strong supporter of the the blue line but I can’t blindly just accept things because “they say so”. This sorely lacks in most Canadian enforcement efforts - think Nova Scotia shootings, New Brunswick, Saskatchewan James Gordon Band shootings, it’s a pattern of cloaking and non information dissemination that the RCMP typically use (although it isnt unique to that policing organization, Toronto’s police is the same. Bill Blair has continued that approach in his various federal ministerial roles as well). Canadian police and jurisprudence would stand to improve if it increased its communication and thereby, transparency in matters.

I can accept that publishing victims names and photos is contentious and where minors are involved, privacy is paramount. However it speaks to a larger issue of transparency when there isn’t public disclosure in matters of public safety in general terms. This is but one of them.

I understand your point and public safety updates are always required certainly. However I do believe the victims right to privacy vastly trumps the need to satisfy public curiosity in every single circumstance.

As far as publishing those suspected and charged that often happens now.
 

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I understand your point and public safety updates are always required certainly. However I do believe the victims right to privacy vastly trumps the need to satisfy public curiosity in every single circumstance.

As far as publishing those suspected and charged that often happens now.
All good, 5.
 
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