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Yeah I like the dark more. Always the Darker rum. This doesn't sound like my taste.

I forget, aren't there different quality grades of Bumbu? 45bucks is the starter, no?

I drink less often now so I like getting good stuff. May as well drink the best.

Zero coke or Pepsi is my go to as well. Feel like Rum and regular pop is too much sugar, even tastes like too much sugar. One gets used to diet cola and it ends up being the just right taste. Has to be Zero though, not regular diet. That stuff tastes weird.

Not really quality grades, just the 2 different expressions. Both are “dark” rums and pack incredible flavour.
 

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Bumbu only on ice. No mix. Not difference in price north to south for black or amber, it’s 40 bucks a bottle here for black. Bacardi white though, a 66 is 19.98@ walmart. Pay around 58-60 in Canada. Taxes, I’m glad our government finances are in such great shape.
 

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Bumbu only on ice. No mix. Not difference in price north to south for black or amber, it’s 40 bucks a bottle here for black. Bacardi white though, a 66 is 19.98@ walmart. Pay around 58-60 in Canada. Taxes, I’m glad our government finances are in such great shape.
I remember being shocked in US in Costco stores (about the only time I go to them) at how cheap the liquor was there. Absolutely incredible difference.
 
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I remember being shocked in US in Costco stores (about the only time I go to them) at how cheap the liquor was there. Absolutely incredible difference.
My wife and I were talking about this today. There was a time that you got smoking deals on clothing etc and also get footwear, and clothes that were not available in Canada, even 5 years ago if you found the sales, but now the prices withe xchange are the same,the product availability is the same, so it’s no big deal at all. I used to buy suits at Brooks Brothers in the lates 2000s and if I waited for sales I could buy a suit for 150 bucks when the dollar was almost par.
we spent part of today at an outlet mall and there was nothing that was a deal, but Christ were people dropping dollars. Anything from Canada with an excise tax on it will be cheaper here - booze and tobacco. Gas is no saving in AZ, but it is in Idaho and Montana,cheaper than Ab and Sask. Groceries are cheaper if you watch where and how you buy, my wife did an instacart order yesterday that she pulled coupons for and it was 112$ USD and it came in at 44$. She’s still not sure how it happened. Entertainment, restaurant meals are no saving compared to Canada.

But, the temperature is lower in Canada so it has that going for it, ;).
 

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I mistook you. When you said clear bottle somehow I thought light rum. Is that a medium rum?

I wouldn't want the one like Werthers but I don't mind the darker one.

They make a clear and a black bottle but both are aged rums. The werthers flavor one is a beautiful caramel flavour. Soooo good.
 
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They make a clear and a black bottle but both are aged rums. The werthers flavor one is a beautiful caramel flavour. Soooo good.
If it only tasted like that I would pass. It probably has other hints and undertones in it. Haven't tried the caramel one. I've sampled the darker one at other peoples places.

Glad you like the rum but its not made for rum connoisseurs.

A lot of people don't actually like the lighter which is also of note only 35%.


I like Baron Samedi, El Dorado, or Mount Gay too much to switch though. For sure Bumbu is overpriced relative to its poor ratings. Even a standard Mt Gay product or Eldorado product come in much higher ranked, better priced.

Most Rum reviewers think Bumbu is popular due to the bottle, cork, packaging. Candy rum is one of the most common reviews.

This is the best rum reviewer I've ever seen. he dislikes Bumbu original. He's very descriptive why.

 
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If it only tasted like that I would pass. It probably has other hints and undertones in it. Haven't tried the caramel one. I've sampled the darker one at other peoples places.

Glad you like the rum but its not made for rum connoisseurs.

A lot of people don't actually like the lighter which is also of note only 35%.


I like Baron Samedi, El Dorado, or Mount Gay too much to switch though. For sure Bumbu is overpriced relative to its poor ratings. Even a standard Mt Gay product or Eldorado product come in much higher ranked, better priced.

Most Rum reviewers think Bumbu is popular due to the bottle, cork, packaging. Candy rum is one of the most common reviews.

This is the best rum reviewer I've ever seen. he dislikes Bumbu original. He's very descriptive why.


Ah ok, thanks for those pearls of wisdom. I could give 2 shits what anyone thinks of what I like, and only snobs and snots judge what others like - in particular any rum reviewer as enjoying any spirit is all about personal taste and nothing else.

BTW, I would put my personal bar up against the most refined "rum connoisseurs" selection any day of the week.
 

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Ah ok, thanks for those pearls of wisdom. I could give 2 shits what anyone thinks of what I like, and only snobs and snots judge what others like - in particular any rum reviewer as enjoying any spirit is all about personal taste and nothing else.

BTW, I would put my personal bar up against the most refined "rum connoisseurs" selection any day of the week.
lol Even said "glad you like the rum" But its like liking Candy popcorn, not for everybody. Its all good, don't get knickers twisted.

Yeah I wouldn't say onlys snobs like fine things. Even people on middle class budgets splurge on better at times. Myself I don't drink much anymore so if its something, then more and more I'd just rather it be something special. Going to get to 100buck bottles and see what the ravers of rum rave about at the higher ends. Similarly experimented with decent Scotch just to see what the fuss is about. I'll never be a serious drinker of it but now I understand the language of Scotch.

As far as rum you're mistaken. Rum is evaluated on such things as natural tastes that come from the Cane, process, casking, ageing, etc vs what gets added LATER as just silly banana and caramel flavoring which you seem to love, but is generally regarded as just "additives" These are substantive differences. Quality Rum doesn't need all the added flavoring, it excels on its own merit. This is a basic premise of Rum evaluation.

hey, I've drunk a lot of swill as well. but life gets shorter and OK to sometimes want the best while you can have it.

In anycase reviews of any wine, spirit exist because theres fine, good, and theres run of the mill. I'm sure you read restaurant or hotel reviews occasionally as well.

There isn't a rum reviewer anywhere that is experienced that says Bumbu is great. The standard Bumbu isn't even technically a rum. Its a flavored rum drink. A dead giveaway for the brand being not much at all is they make Cream Rum. Its like somebody saying they love rum, next thing they say is their Rum of choice is Malibu;)

So tell me, because you wanna brag, whats in your bar? heh
 
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Added notes and not directed at anybody but just further to the Rum sidebar. Again Bumbu, the first type they produced, it isn't even Rum. Its 35%alcohol which doesn't meet the 40% minimum spirit standard to be called run and it also has far too much additives and sugar to be called a rum. Several lawsuits exist. There won't be Bumbu forever anyway, they likely lose some of these suits and have to pay settlements and change how they label and advertise their product.


Other suits exist in different jurisdictions. Bumbu original is really a Rum based Drink or Liquor. They make several other false claims about their bottled product as well. The trouble with making such false claim is that other brands that actually bottle true rum are going to have misgivings about the upstart product making false claims.

Save your 50bucks and buy an actual Rum. Countless ones exist.
 
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Yes Ive heard the musings of the liquor snobs that say spiced rum isn’t rum but a flavoured drink. I don’t care. Your replies can be very haughty, I know what rum is and don’t need your lecture that I don’t know my rum.

I’ve in hand bottles from Flor de Cana 25 to Eldorado 21 to Kirk & Sweeney Gran Reserva to Merser & Co to The Lash to Dictador XO to 22 year Dictador Capitulo finished in Port casks to Rhum JM an agricol rum aged 24 years from Martinique to Plantation 25, Pussers 15 and many more along with fun to drink with cola rums like the 2 Bumbu’s, Capn Morgan Spiced, Kraken and a few others. Baron Samedi, a spiced rum, among them.

Bottom line is people like what they like. I posted to @brentashton about drinking Bumbu to which you inserted your opinions. I never said YOU had to like it but received several posts from you on why a rum you’ve never tasted is garbage and that I should listen to real “rum connoisseurs”…..

Anyway I will continue to enjoy a Bumbu and Coke Zero free of guilt and when the urge arises I will drink my Dictador XO or El Dorado 21 neat or rocks, depending on what I feel like at the time.
 

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Yes Ive heard the musings of the liquor snobs that say spiced rum isn’t rum but a flavoured drink. I don’t care. Your replies can be very haughty, I know what rum is and don’t need your lecture that I don’t know my rum.

I’ve in hand bottles from Flor de Cana 25 to Eldorado 21 to Kirk & Sweeney Gran Reserva to Merser & Co to The Lash to Dictador XO to 22 year Dictador Capitulo finished in Port casks to Rhum JM an agricol rum aged 24 years from Martinique to Plantation 25, Pussers 15 and many more along with fun to drink with cola rums like the 2 Bumbu’s, Capn Morgan Spiced, Kraken and a few others. Baron Samedi, a spiced rum, among them.

Bottom line is people like what they like. I posted to @brentashton about drinking Bumbu to which you inserted your opinions. I never said YOU had to like it but received several posts from you on why a rum you’ve never tasted is garbage and that I should listen to real “rum connoisseurs”…..

Anyway I will continue to enjoy a Bumbu and Coke Zero free of guilt and when the urge arises I will drink my Dictador XO or El Dorado 21 neat or rocks, depending on what I feel like at the time.
Haughty?

Naughty?

lol

All of the bolded are far better. Hey the Bumbu thing isn't meant as anything personal. Just that its a common pet peeve among people really into rum that Bumbu isn't even a rum. Its a controversial topic in rum community and even undergoing lawsuits because everything about the product is misrepresented (not the only Distributor doing that).

People paying 50bucks for Bumbu are getting ripped off. All of the bolded you mentioned are far better options.

We agree on Coke Zero.

There was no lecture. You were sleeping anyway. Glad to have given you a chance to brag about the one section of your Liquor lode while declaring not being a snob :)
 

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Haughty?

Naughty?

lol

All of the bolded are far better. Hey the Bumbu thing isn't meant as anything personal. Just that its a common pet peeve among people really into rum that Bumbu isn't even a rum. Its a controversial topic in rum community and even undergoing lawsuits because everything about the product is misrepresented (not the only Distributor doing that).

People paying 50bucks for Bumbu are getting ripped off. All of the bolded you mentioned are far better options.

We agree on Coke Zero.

There was no lecture. You were sleeping anyway. Glad to have given you a chance to brag about the one section of your Liquor lode while declaring not being a snob :)

Snobs don’t have Bumbu according to the experts.

Can confirm. Alot of cop cars outside the Theatre parking lot. Was there earlier to grab some stuff at Simons aswell :oops:

Lockdown just ended. 3 taken to hospital w serious injuries.

 
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Snobs don’t have Bumbu according to the experts.



Lockdown just ended. 3 taken to hospital w serious injuries.

Scary stuff. Cant remember the last time something like this happened? Mid 90s with stabbings maybe.
 

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Scary stuff. Cant remember the last time something like this happened? Mid 90s with stabbings maybe.
WEM gets several incidents either inside or outside of the mall. You just don't hear about them all on the news. Police do a scatterplot crime statistics and you can see where crimes are occurring through periods of time. Not often to this degree but shootings as well before. They pretty much stopped having one specific nightclub there in the Mall because there was so much trouble with it.

Heres the crime map. You may have to backout and agree to conditions of use to see it.

 

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Snobs don’t have Bumbu according to the experts.



Lockdown just ended. 3 taken to hospital w serious injuries.

Snobs don't have Baron Samedi either and I do. heh. We all like what we like. I'm not rich enough to be a rum snob myself. Just being the messenger.

Mostly I'm not even the rum sipping stage. Just more for cocktails or with Coke zero. Like some Polynesian drinks as well. Albeit not often, I cut down on sugar whenever possible.

In reality I have to carefully select what I drink and stick to certain knowns as I'm Celiac. I get some reaction if I drink stuff with Gluten. So for me Rums with too much additives (thats increasing chances of gluten contamination) are likely to be more problematic. Rum itself, the canes, the casks, it shouldn't contain much Gluten, but several rums do. In the additives.
 
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Violence in Edmonton is insane this year. It's not even the end of the year yet and this might be the worst one yet.
 

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Snobs don't have Baron Samedi either and I do. heh. We all like what we like. I'm not rich enough to be a rum snob myself. Just being the messenger.

Mostly I'm not even the rum sipping stage. Just more for cocktails or with Coke zero. Like some Polynesian drinks as well. Albeit not often, I cut down on sugar whenever possible.

In reality I have to carefully select what I drink and stick to certain knowns as I'm Celiac. I get some reaction if I drink stuff with Gluten. So for me Rums with too much additives (thats increasing chances of gluten contamination) are likely to be more problematic. Rum itself, the canes, the casks, it shouldn't contain much Gluten, but several rums do. In the additives.

Sometimes people don’t care to hear the message, especially when it’s delivered in such a manner as to be taken as a lecture.

Baron Samedi is excellent as well. Love it. But then there’s not many rums I don’t love.
 

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Sometimes people don’t care to hear the message, especially when it’s delivered in such a manner as to be taken as a lecture.

Baron Samedi is excellent as well. Love it. But then there’s not many rums I don’t love.
You must not have liked school if you find everything a lecture. Its just information.

Pretty sure you lectured me on Roger Waters as well out of the blue. I'd never asked your opinion. Yeah you do it.

Whatever topic it is I love kind of diving in. I'm a debater at heart, that isn't anything new, or any news. You shouldn't take it differently than that.

With Baron Samedi I like the spices they use. Its a departure. Generally I like stuff like El Dorado, Flor De Cana, Mount Gay.

Something that hasn't been mentioned in the discussion is some distillers are notoriously inconsistent. For instance years ago people would recommend some Indian Rums like Old Monk or Old Port. Unfortunately now what they bottle is swill. Quality out the window. Even a Rum like Gosling Black Seal which used to be decent is now not quality. So that like in the case of Wine vintage and year matter so much. The reality is that Rum is different batch by batch and even top distillers have some trouble replicating top quality. What this has meant for the industry is a preponderance of "blended" rums. Its touted and marketed to absolve that, but really its just a failure to reproduce bottled consistency batch to batch.

Rum, like wine is hard to replicate. Its kind of odd because I feel like with Whiskies, Bourbon, Scotch the distillers are able to replicate tastes from one year or batch to the next. Rum seems not at all like that. The Rum industry still needs a lot of improving. But there seems limited interest in them doing that when the public will buy anything. Whereas wine producers deal with the very complex grape, and the vagaries of how grapes are impacted by anything, along with varietals, there is constant work in wine industry trying to perfect. I don't get that impression at all in the Rum distilling community. Shouldn't be all that difficult either. Its easier to regulate Cane consistency than grapes as a starting product.

Anyway I love discussing stuff that interests me. If you don't like it we don't have to do it.
 
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You must not have liked school if you find everything a lecture. Its just information.

Pretty sure you lectured me on Roger Waters as well out of the blue. I'd never asked your opinion. Yeah you do it.

Whatever topic it is I love kind of diving in. I'm a debater at heart, that isn't anything new, or any news. You shouldn't take it differently than that.

With Baron Samedi I like the spices they use. Its a departure. Generally I like stuff like El Dorado, Flor De Cana, Mount Gay.

Something that hasn't been mentioned in the discussion is some distillers are notoriously inconsistent. For instance years ago people would recommend some Indian Rums like Old Monk or Old Port. Unfortunately now what they bottle is swill. Quality out the window. Even a Rum like Gosling Black Seal which used to be decent is now not quality. So that like in the case of Wine vintage and year matter so much. The reality is that Rum is different batch by batch and even top distillers have some trouble replicating top quality. What this has meant for the industry is a preponderance of "blended" rums. Its touted and marketed to absolve that, but really its just a failure to reproduce bottled consistency batch to batch.

Rum, like wine is hard to replicate. Its kind of odd because I feel like with Whiskies, Bourbon, Scotch the distillers are able to replicate tastes from one year or batch to the next. Rum seems not at all like that. The Rum industry still needs a lot of improving. But there seems limited interest in them doing that when the public will buy anything. Whereas wine producers deal with the very complex grape, and the vagaries of how grapes are impacted by anything, along with varietals, there is constant work in wine industry trying to perfect. I don't get that impression at all in the Rum distilling community. Shouldn't be all that difficult either. Its easier to regulate Cane consistency than grapes as a starting product.

Anyway I love discussing stuff that interests me. If you don't like it we don't have to do it.

I just don’t like being told what I should like according to “experts”.

Sorry if I took it the wrong way.

Anyone who loves rum is fine by me.
 
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