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Why would a team pay the same price for shorter term of the same terrible deal the flyers made?
Proposal: Oilers need Defense and a Goalie
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BobClarkesfrontteeth
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Wait a minute. You mean recreating the 2019-2020 Leafs right side with Barrie and Ceci did not turn the Oilers into a defensive juggernaut? Who know?
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More like Demko for Koskinen + Holloway + 2022 1st. Bouchard is pretty untouchable (at the moment) based on Edmonton's current cap constraints.
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Flyers paid more than a 1 (which is scary how much of an idiot Fletcher is)
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lmao you arent going to get a possible early 1st for risto, only way we take on risto is if you take barrie(the better player of the two tbh) but id do jones for a 2nd in 24 if you take kosk
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1) Its not an early first. Edm pick should be pick 15-20 unless Edm implodes. Top 4 protection is if somehow Edmonton in the 1% percent chance of ping pong balls
Taking the worse contract is not the better player value overall. And Risto is legit 4 this year. He has played well. I just don't want the idiot flyers gm to use cap space to keep him. Team needs an overall.
2)4.5m salary of Koskinen with no retention? lmao that deal is an albatross.
honestly id go after chychrun or klingberg(if their willing to take on barrie) now and if you go with klingberg to try and grab holtby. either that or grab varlamov(pick him over maf just because of the extra year) but wouldnt say no to maf or even anderson for just his great playoff exp( i know hes 40 but how great would it be having 2 goalies under 2.2m and win the cup? glorious i tell you, but i know injuries are more common in older players especially goalies) .
I understand hollands logic to the maddness but if rumors are true and he gave oilers 2 years to get their shit together then id be honestly on the phones with every team that has players available whether its to gauge with certain teams what theyd give up to get mcdavid(tbh i wouldnt mind it if we got barzal and sorokin in a deal for mcdavid... i know im crazy but to send mcdavid to a bottom dweller would be kinda funny with him giving a time line).
im fine with it costing us 1sts and or prospects what im not fine with is holland trying to tip toe and not try to go all in when he knows our goaltending is absolute shit.
this is the last year on the contract and a 2nd being included is actually compensation for the difference in cap space as both are fa after the season. if you want oilers to retain sure but that pick is going back to a 3rd
demko is the future #1 for canucks i doubt oilers could get him unless it was mass overpayment like taking on myers and still adding someone like broberg to the deal. and im an oilers fan, not only that is id want ian clark coming with demko if oilers got him.
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Every deal that goes if they took Barrie. Ask me why are teams in salary cap world are taking on 2 years 9m cap and 9.5m actual cash for Barrie? There are worse deals but that narrative needs to stop.
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And that is the closer route
Jones's value is a 3 or early 4.
Now what do you want to add for Flyers to take on 3m of that Koskinen blunderous deal.
Its not a 3 to get both.
Canucks wouldn’t do either of those.
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5 mil for Nuge isn't bad to use him as a heavily used 3C and on the first powerplay. The whole point is to have 3 lines to roll heavy mins and a limited mins for the 4th line. When McDavid and Draisaitl are on the bench Edmonton is out scored by a 2-1 margin. We need consistent scoring from the bottom 6.
Maybe people who don't follow the team assume scoring isn't an issue if you have McDavid and Draisaitl but it is still a major issue due to lack of depth.
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The whole premise is to trade picks and prospects to upgrade the D and in net and try and get Kane on a cheap 1 year deal to fix the depth scoring.
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Both say no, but man Florida D core would be as bad as ours with this trade and they don't need Draisaitl, not even a little bit.
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Lmao Koskinens deal is finished at the end of the year. Hardly an albatross..... WOW
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If you think owners are going to pay 2.5m remaining million cash for a pick on an albatross deal, then you are not paying attention to the 2022 economy.
i mean no disrespect to oiler fans . my habs are tanking and i'd like to see some canadian teams do something . i think the biggest contract the oilers should worry about is holland . i've read here he makes 5 million a year . his body of work to date is brutal .
There's just no way around the following:
1. If they're good and cheap (slaary-wise), they'll cost major assets.
2. If they're cheap and don't cost major assets, they won't be good.
3. If they're good and won't cost assets, they'll be paid a fortune.
Oilers have no cap room, so they can't do #3. They've been trying to do #2 for a while now. They can do #1, but long-term it will hurt.
1. If they're good and cheap (slaary-wise), they'll cost major assets.
2. If they're cheap and don't cost major assets, they won't be good.
3. If they're good and won't cost assets, they'll be paid a fortune.
Oilers have no cap room, so they can't do #3. They've been trying to do #2 for a while now. They can do #1, but long-term it will hurt.
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Zaitsev and Murray for Koskinen and Oilers 1st
Ottawa gets: Shane Wright
Edmonton gets: A new GM
Ottawa gets: Shane Wright
Edmonton gets: A new GM
Review Oilers case.
Oilers funs you can tell bye-bye to playoff this season.
The team was good only during first 20 games, the period that is usally needed to teams to build a group at start of the season.
With current roster, injuries and oilers schedule there is no options for playoff even with some new name due to minor trades. Major trades are not realistic - no cap space and valuable assets for.
When you play vs Eastern conference is near no chances.
Canucs with Boudreau will over Oilers in final standing.
Key Challanges:
- Nurse is hardly overpaid, not elite Def
- 2nd def pair is amful
- cap space issue
- to get a goalie is real after the season via trade
- Edmonton isn't prefer destination for free agents
In couple seasons McDavid and Draisatl come up to ask for trade. Simultanely.
Welcome new GM.
Oilers funs you can tell bye-bye to playoff this season.
The team was good only during first 20 games, the period that is usally needed to teams to build a group at start of the season.
With current roster, injuries and oilers schedule there is no options for playoff even with some new name due to minor trades. Major trades are not realistic - no cap space and valuable assets for.
When you play vs Eastern conference is near no chances.
Canucs with Boudreau will over Oilers in final standing.
Key Challanges:
- Nurse is hardly overpaid, not elite Def
- 2nd def pair is amful
- cap space issue
- to get a goalie is real after the season via trade
- Edmonton isn't prefer destination for free agents
In couple seasons McDavid and Draisatl come up to ask for trade. Simultanely.
Welcome new GM.
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