Confirmed with Link: Oilers Do Not Match Broberg ($4.58M X2) & Holloway ($2.29M x 2) Offer Sheets | Oilers acquire STL 3rd '28 & Paul Fischer for Futures

[Broberg Speed]

Let them walk. No way any of them are worth that money.

It’s really an easy choice.

It's tough, but that's the right call.

This is a veteran team, you can't kowtow to two young players, neither having much over 80 games experience under their belt.

 

[ujju2]

In any case, I would match both if we can move Ceci, but even if Broberg doesn't work out, I think we have to match on Holloway. 2.2 isn't a massive overpay.

 

[Broberg Speed]

A 9mil 3rd pairing defenseman . In what universe do you not see that as a problem in a cap league?

but this isn't really true

 

[Oilslick941611]

We signed 8000 players on July 1st but not our RFAs. Everyone was saying it was the best offseason ever. Now we're in the "finding out" stage.

I'd probably let both walk but Broberg absolutely for sure.

Guy. It’s just Holloway and Broberg.

Savoie has an opening now and he can’t be much worse than Holloway was.

Broberg doesn’t move a needle. Broberg showed nothing for 3 seasons had a few good games in the playoffs and got a massive raise. Let him ride that 4.5 mil and be happy he isn’t earning it here.


We lost nothing of consequence.

 

[powerserge]

Man this sucks, two up and coming players with alot of speed. Which is one of the most desirable attributes in the NHL. Lost Clouder already. Let them walk, we become much slower and older.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

but this isn't really true

Might be a bit of an exaggeration but Nurse has slid hard in the past couple of years.

 

[ujju2]

Guy. It’s just Holloway and Broberg.

Savoie has an opening now and he can’t be much worse than Holloway was.

Broberg doesn’t move a needle. Broberg showed nothing for 3 seasons had a few good games in the playoffs and got a massive raise. Let him ride that 4.5 mil and be happy he isn’t earning it here.


We lost nothing of consequence.

If either player gets anywhere close to where we think their ceiling might be, we'd be losing a hell of a lot of consequence.

 

[Oilslick941611]

It's tough, but that's the right call.

This is a veteran team, you can't kowtow to two young players, neither having much over 80 games experience under their belt.

Exactly. These aren’t players you build around. Let them walk. Move on and make sure you sign Bouchard

 

[CDN24]

That sounds great, but what 23-year old is turning down 9.16 million when the alternative is likely half of that or less?

Plus guaranteed ice time. A team signing you to a $4.5M contract is going to play you. Neither Broberg nor Holloway has had an opportunity to play a regular role. we can talk about earned it or not but if I'm the player that regular role shot is as important or more impt than the money.

 

[CupofOil]

I remember some folks saying that Broberg and Holloway won't sign offer sheets because they want to win a Cup. I was floored that there were people who really believed that. They want that bag, nothing else, just like the majority of people in the world.

 

[McJadeddog]

This is f***ing absurd, I know you're partly shit posting, but come on even you don't believe the Ceci v. Broberg nonsense. Broberg as a good chance to be better than Nurse this season, he's already much better than Ceci.

Oh yeah, I personally believe that Broberg is better than Ceci already, 100%. I'm just pointing out that its a pretty big bet on Broberg is all.

Even if you do trade Ceci, you still don't have room to sign Broberg though, and you'll have to give up assets to trade Ceci now. You'll likely have to add a 3rd rounder to trade him, and then run a smaller roster throughout the year to make up the 1.2 M in salary different between Ceci and Broberg. Not a really good option to be honest.

What very likely happens is they roll our current D with Stetcher playing instead of Broberg on the right side. That is easily good enough to make playoffs, and then they use the 2nd round pick to try and get a D upgrade at the deadline. Then next offseason they use the $3.2 M that Ceci clears up to sign a cheaper UFA Dman.

 

[Oilslick941611]

If either player gets anywhere close to where we think their ceiling might be, we'd be losing a hell of a lot of consequence.

If if if.

I don’t see that happening. Even if it does chances are we wouldn’t be able to resign them to thier next contract.

I’m okay with this. I wasn’t high on either. Especially Broberg.

 

[Stoneman89]

If the Blues take Nurse's contract off of our hands, I say, done deal on the RFA signings!

 

[Zoupa]

Those of you smarter than myself on these matters, we don't have to be cap-compliant in the offseason to match, do we? In other words, could we match on Broberg and then trade him elsewhere for more than a 2nd?

I read they couldn't be traded for 1 year if you match. So I guess no.

 

[Sra1974]

Remember when the oilers offer sheet for penner was criticized for upsetting the marketplace. Waiting for the same here, doubt it happens.

 

[McGreat One]

You can't trade a player for a year after matching an offer sheet. Specifically in place to protect players from what you just suggested lol.

Yeah I just realized that before you replied. But is my other suggestion still an option? Deal him while the offer sheet is in place to a team that can afford to match the offer. I have a hard time believing Broberg couldn't fetch more than a 2nd from some other team in the league.

 

[KeithIsActuallyBad]

I remember some folks saying that Broberg and Holloway won't sign offer sheets because they want to win a Cup. I was floored that there were people who really believed that. They want that bag, nothing else, just like the majority of people in the world.

Money and opportunity that they aren't going to get here. Not as difficult a decision as some would believe.

By the way, you said years ago the Nurse contract is the kind that cripples a team. You were right.

 

[FlameChampion]

As much as it sucks, I think I would just walk away from both guys. I don’t think either guy is really worth the cap. Its a well valued and timed from St. Louis point of view because its just enough to not really make it worth it.

The only way that makes sense to keep Broberg in particular would be to move Nurse. I just don’t see it happening.

Overall, it just sucks.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Jake Neighbours

Looks like a nice Skinner replacement.

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

Maybe but I don't trust Gregor.

 

[Broberg Speed]

In any case, I would match both if we can move Ceci, but even if Broberg doesn't work out, I think we have to match on Holloway. 2.2 isn't a massive overpay.

That's too much cash for an unproven defenceman in Broberg that realistically should have been on the third pairing for the Oilers this upcoming season.

Holloway isn't that good. The other day, before he signed the offer sheet, I posted he was the most overrated Oiler in the Kane thread. He's got 9 career goals and he's had playing time with Draisaitl in the top six.

 

[fuswald]

It's tough, but that's the right call.

This is a veteran team, you can't kowtow to two young players, neither having much over 80 games experience under their belt.

This is making sense. I do want Broberg but he is forcing our hand.

If Broberg turns into a superstar or close then it's too bad. We can't have all the best players in the league gotta share.

 

[Oilslick941611]

Extra mill? This was probably an extra 6-7 million. I bet the Oilers offer was under 2 million per season.

As it should have been. Guy played what 10 good games in the playoffs and 70 meh to shit games over 3 years.

Let him walk

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1823361765415264567

 

[Canovin]

Use the picks and trade for Tomasino